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only heard a couple songs so far, but the album could indeed be *very* good. does "last day" actually sample boards of canada or is that just a similar sound? (if it is a sample, i think it'd be from "an eagle in your mind")(if i'm even remembering that right)

― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 31 October 2004 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Can't remember the sound you're referring to offhand, but yeah I love "Last Day". "For A Lifetime" is my favourite in terms of cool sonix though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks for mentioning this on the "undermentioned 2004 records" thread, Tim. The mix of late 80s top 40 RnB and Timbaland's Aaliyah production is pretty striking, especially on "Backstroke".

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

That sounds just like Kiley's 'As Days Go By'. That's a good thing.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 1 November 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I would love Teedra if only for "Complex Simplicity" the song. It's one of the most... generous songs I've heard in ages. I want the Fantasia album to be like this.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I am currently hunting around the internet to see where I can get this as cheaply as possible.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I just realised that the vague ill-defined 80ishness of some of the tracks may be due to the fact that they sound like they were recorded using a Fairlight. At times i'm reminded of The Sensual World!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the fact that there are TWO different songs on the album that have the same theme as the song "1999". I will also append my brother's comment, upon seeing her picture in the CD booklet: "Fuck, she's hot."

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

And they're two of the best songs! I think she (or whoever writes most of her stuff) is a fantastic lyricist.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

she's the lyricist, she's been doing writing for other people for a few years!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

What else has she written?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I forget, it was in the press packet. I'll look it up and get back to you.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, yeah: she co-wrote Christina Milian's "Dip It Low"!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

REALLY?! Wow.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I was listening to this for the first time while flipping through some old photos and I really wanted to cry.
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― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 09:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Another great album discovered via ILX.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I found this one thru Hua Hsu's blog but might as well have gotten it from ILM since Finny's posting kept reminding me to check it out...thank god he did! Its a really weird album isn't it?

Tim, what do you think of the Lil Jon track? I like that he's continued working outside his popular template on the downlow. I don't know how i feel about the track though.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

It's an odd track both for being Lil Jon and not sounding like what you'd expect, and for coming right after the two most classicist slow jam tracks on the album. I like it, but more for Teedra's performance than the groove - when she says "I damn near slapped her face" and "I may never, may never, may never, may never, may never wanna deal with this again" - lovely moments! She has a great intuitive sense for how to phrase a vocal.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Has anyone noticed the shoddy production that opens "You Better Tell Her?" It's on my promo copy and the MP3 that I downloaded to make sure my ears weren't crazy -- a sort of wooshing, poorly-burned-CD sound that creates really nasty polyrhythms. WTF? Otherwise, that track's my favorite on the record -- Lil Jon really knows how to treat the ladies.

― Rich (Rich), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah that's on my copy too but I assumed that it was the MP3 rip.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine as well

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "Be Your Girl" has the same piano sample as "One on One" by Nas and Large Professor. Its a great mournful piano trick.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's an odd choice for a single, for sure

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I got this album a month ago for $7. I knew when I saw the gorgeous video for "Be Your Girl" that the album was gonna be just as hot. "Last Day" and "Be Your Girl" are pure ear candy.

― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link

More thoughts here, though it's hard to top Matt who nailed it so damn perfectly on his article linked above.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 13 November 2004 10:32 (nineteen years ago) link

(hey nice to see skykicking back up again tim)

― jones (actual), Saturday, 13 November 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the way the title track celebrates dancing and drinking and getting your party on while sounding a million miles from a song you'd dance, drink and get your party on to.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I still haven't marshalled my thoughts about this fucking amazing work into any semblance of order yet, but "Caution" needs to be mentioned, especially that wonderful image of 'red hot scowling'. Teedra's voice has this unbelievable clarity to it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad you like it Alex.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"Teedra's voice has this unbelievable clarity to it."

Yeah this is spot on. It combines with her unusually vivid and visual lyrics to make her songs seem very filmic; and then Paul Poli's production is so frequently cinematic. My favourite line may still be the one that Matt quotes in his article from "Backstroke": "picture me in one of those two-seater things, top down so thoughts of you are in the breeze, and the wind, and the wind, and the wind is in my hair..."

But I also love the opening lines in "For A Lifetime": "you give and you give, but you never seem to get back in return/what you give, till your heart's a thirsty third-degree burns."

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Something else which really stands out about the album is how sparse it sounds at first listen - really, it's just that stark, clear voice and a beat, and maybe one sample, pushed forward in the mix. But there are so many interesting things going on in the background! And this combines with your point about Teedra's lyrics - because the voice is so upfront (and because she avoids melisma, and makes a point of enunciating every word), the listener is forced to engage with exactly what she's saying.

All of this is in contrast to the sophisticated, slightly hazy, evening-dress-and-glass-of-wine image which Teedra projects. The effect is rather like Sade brought suddenly into really sharp focus.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

"And this combines with your point about Teedra's lyrics - because the voice is so upfront (and because she avoids melisma, and makes a point of enunciating every word), the listener is forced to engage with exactly what she's saying."

OTM. I knew you would like this album Alex. It engages the same pleasure receptors in my brains as are engaged by all the stuff we both like.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha the Teedra Moses/Stina Nordenstam connection! (That's not even a joke, they both share a very... crystalline quality.)

It's why I bought it actually, the things you said you liked about it are the same things that are present in everything we both like.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Just listening to this now. Only up to track 4 so far. 'Backstroke' stands out a mile. What a wonderful track, sonically and emotionally.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 20 January 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

same here alba. just caught on yesterday based on the albums poll. what an impressive album. usually the combined weight of 4 minute tracks wears my ears down, but not here...

― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm really glad you both like this!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I love it. A fine album.

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i love the "daddy, i'm too cute to fight, you better get that bitch told tonight" line.

also, may i suggest rashaan patterson's After Hours, specifically "So Hot", which i've said elsewhere is the best thing i've heard so far this year.

― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Will do - thanks. (It's Rahsaan, not Rashaan, I've discovered)

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

wow. i'm an idiot. i need to correct the thread i started about the guy.

also, i couldn't get teedra out of my head last night, esp. the title track.

― john'n'chiago, Friday, 21 January 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I think "Be Your Girl" has the same piano sample as "One on One" by Nas

saw the video on tv today and, yeah, it does. anyone know just where the sample's from though?

― jermaine, Saturday, 26 February 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Ahmad Jamal's The Awakening, apparently.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I might be interviewing Teedra tomorrow!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Sweet!

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:38 (eighteen years ago) link

who for? i'd be interested to read it.

― stelfox, Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Plan B

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't done an interview in about a YEAR. I am actually a little nervous. About two weeks ago I had a daydream about interviewing Teedra, during which I came up with lots of interesting and awesome questions. Needless to say I can remember none of them now.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Take her shopping! That could help.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I get vv limited time with her, I am not sure if this makes it worse or better (ans: worse)

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Ask her for a new album post haste. Tell her she and Kiley should team up and lay the smackdown on Whitney and Mariah. Ask her if she danced in the 'Dip It Low' vid and tell her she has fabulous taste in outfits.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

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Yeah but Katy B is a boring, middle of the road Noxzema girl pop singer, while Teedra Moses is, you know, interesting and talented

― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

do i have to break out snoop.gif for the second time today?

― TALiB KWELi SODMG (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

yeah guess she can't push the envelope to its very bleeding edge like miguel does every single time huh

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

i was just about to type almost exactly that sentence except with grimes, though miguel works too

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha, ok, I'll back down from the Katy B bashing. I shouldn't try to troll too hard about an artist I clearly don't understand (and probably wasn't meant to understand) anyway.

― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

miguel is amazing tho. please leave the playing yourselves to evan.

― TALiB KWELi SODMG (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

girl u know i love miguel, doesnt change the fact that what evan said about him was snoopgif-worthy

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, I would hate to see my precious miguel/grimes get caught in the crossfire because of my own impudence... snoop.gif me, but let the music go free

― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

That Teairra Marí album is really nice; definitely going to order one of the $0.24 used copies of it from Amazon

― Evan R, Thursday, 5 April 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

all im listening is teedra is the last days, she's so important in my life

― moullet, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mUGnjdUgUw

― r|t|c, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

that voice. she could sing me titchyschneider posts and i'd be in heaven

― r|t|c, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

IRL lols.

― Tim F, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

but could she sing you dog latin posts

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

1) Teedra UK live dates in September!
2) Teedra and Katy B love-in on Twitter! <3 <3 <3 <3

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

in case you forgot Siik was the man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvF5JygKB0

― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Teedra Moses
‪#‎cognacNconversations‬ Ep in 2014 modern classics

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― lex pretend, Monday, 30 December 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

new song, on the same sample as that one brooke valentine one https://soundcloud.com/teedramoses/all-i-ever-wanted

she was amazing at koko last night btw

― lex pretend, Friday, 28 February 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

wait the album actually appears to be ON ITS WAY and out 23 june

http://www.thisisrnb.com/2015/04/new-music-teedra-moses-get-it-right/

lead single is nice

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:40 (eight years ago) link

!!!!!!!!

― Tim F, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 08:06 (eight years ago) link

They're calling her Friday May 8 show in DC an album release gig

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

album will be out 7 aug

it is really lovely

― lex pretend, Monday, 20 July 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

thanks

― curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

she just posted a new mixtape: https://soundcloud.com/teedramoses/sets/clairvoyant-the-mixtape

― How to Destroy How to Dress Well (lou), Friday, 18 December 2015 07:49 (eight years ago) link

Waaaaait. How did I miss that she put out a new album?!

― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 December 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Waaaaait. How did I forget that I missed that she put out a new album?!

And how do I always forget how amazing Complex Simplicity is?

― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 April 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

15th anniversary edition of Complex Simplicity is out, with some added tracks. It’s on Spotify as well, from where the original album has been absent for a long time, at least where I live.
https://ratedrnb.com/2019/09/teedra-moses-releases-15th-anniversary-edition-of-complex-simplicity/

She’s doing a tour in the US right now and will also be doing a couple of shows in the UK in February.

― breastcrawl, Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

honestly found it hard to get enthusiastic about most of her post-complex simplicity material but "make me" appeared in my release radar this morning and sounds great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKtUAiQwO_g

― monotony, Friday, 7 May 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Is it possible for one of the OG teedra fans to please re-up her "young hustla vol 1-3" series? I've been looking online forever, all the links are decayed. I'd appreciate it.

― Ibadan, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 02:51 (one year ago) link

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