Conrad Schnitzler S/D

i've seen rot and blau talked up a lot but have yet to check them out due to laziness or whatever. still not quite sure what to expect but i'm kinda excited to finally hear them.

http://www.matthowarth.com/

still haven't heard Gelb yet though .. GOTTA get that one soon..

Listened to Gelb four times in a row last night, beautifully weird, I think this one is one of my favorites now. Want to hear Live Action 77 and Charred Machinery.

Or has it and I somehow missed it?

it includes his 'disco' record from 1980 - the 'auf dem schwarzen kanal' ep - which has devastated my head.

yow

http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=848162

someone kick that ass in the nuts.

also, hi record labels of the world - how about some conrad schnitzler reissues that stay in print for more than a month?

for example he's trying to sell an old spalax version of "seligspreisung" (no remaster or bonus tracks) for $30 so obv he's charging idiotic prices

but i should still expect to spend $100-200 on the set, right?

they were $26 around here when they came out ($22+shipping from the label, which is how i got them), so if they're "new" i'd bet on at least $125. i'm really wishing i had bought schwartz and rot (have the plate lunch jewel case version of the latter) now, didn't expect them to sell out so fast.

faux-xp: wait a minute, now that i look at that link... DVD? i don't recall a DVD ever being part of that set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBUa4EFDc_M

Pictures from the 1969 film by Dietmar Buchmann shows scenes from Conrad Schnitzler's Zodiak Free Arts Lab

www.myspace.com/freeartslab

"trigger trilogy"??

its weird that considering how you can't get people to shush about cluster / tangerine dream / neu / etc these days there's so little hype on kluster on the internet. what should i expect if i haven't heard them before? cluster 71 type of sound?

i don't know about kluster, but did anybody buy the two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac last month, the ones with the dandy jack, bruno pronsato and thomas fehlmann remixes? they're great!

xp: sort of. or a little like the first tangerine dream. or AMM or something. eh? water just put out a 3 disc kluster anthology with the albums and one unreleased (?) thing.

http://www.jazzloft.com/p-47658-1970-1971-boxed-set.aspx

I love the first 3 Kluster records. They're studio recordings of live improvisations, a lot more murky and primitive than Cluster '71, but still great. Very much like an extension of all the most extreme noisy aspects of what Schnitzler was doing on the first Tangerine Dream record. First side of the first two albums have freakout religious texts recited in German on them which throws a lot of people off the trail. The original 90's CD issues on Hypnotic had bonus tracks taken from this which were wisely left off, there's no new material. When I heard these in the 90's they were a little too out for me, though I could respect them, but I come back to these every few years and they sound better every time, and when the noise CDR release scene started up and Spencer and Pete started handing me Skaters / Yellow Swans things, these Kluster records from 1970 were the first things I thought of

>two conrad schnitzler eps released on orac

I want these

Captain Trip also put these out, haven't heard any of the early 80's self-releases, I should check some of them out:

Early Self-Product Series - Including the 5 titles (CTCD-614-618) which are: -CONSEQUENZ -CONTEMPORA -CONTEXT -CONVEX - 1.7.84 - and a bonus CD (CTCD-619) in special outer box (totally 6CD box-set). This bonus CD is called 3.3.83 and was originally pressed in an edition of 1 copy for Conrad Schnitzler personally! Recorded in 1983, including bonus tracks. 2008 digital remaster version with stumped paper sleeve, same as the original.

haven't heard Trigger Trilogy either! It is just impossible to keep up with this guy. I'm still going back to Ballet Statique often enough that it's tough to move forward

Bumping for new reissue of the Silver LP from the colour series. Kinda tempted.

Silver LP? What's that?

Taken from sessions recorded at the same time as the colour series (Rot, Blau, Schwarz, etc). Unreleased, perhaps? Warning bells??

All I know is it's a QBICO release. I saw it at Volcanic Tongue. Not much word about it elsewhere.

samples sound ok to me, never heard any of that stuff before: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/341746-01.htm

simultaneously the best and the worst album cover.

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off

Schnitzler also has the best lines in this: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34729/kraftwerk-and-the-electronic-revolution/

a little dry overall but worth seeing if you like Krautrock -- lots of Schnitzler / Roedelius / Moebius & Schulze being interviewed about Berlin / Düsseldorf 1960-1970. Organization isn't even mentioned until 40 minutes in, they're too busy talking about Zodiac Free Arts Lab.

shouldn't have even linked to that review, though I can see why most Kraftwerk fans are going to be bored by the first hour of this DVD. I was laughing thinking about them during the 5 minute section where they're enthusiastically talking up the first three Kluster records, culminating in them finally fading up an excerpt: three people banging on metal plates and moaning into heavy tape echo

I love those records

samples of "silver" sound pretty good. i was just listening to GRUN or whatever this morning.

does forced exposure still distro qbico? i just realized i haven't seen any of their releases in a long time.

thx to this thread i am finally checking out the CON box set... and now i'm mad at myself for not doing it before. i can see 'con'/'ballet statique' quickly turning into an all time favorite

man "bie ie blaue blume blüht" off of the green one could totally use some kinda basic channel style rejiggering. not that it isn't brilliant already.

If I love "Fabrik" (which I heard on the amazing Optimo Cold War mix), where do I go next with CS?

that's from "auf dem schwarzen kanal" from 1980. i think that was reissued on cd as con 2+, so that'd be a place to start, con is also pretty good.

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals

Yes, that album's really good!

ok for years one of my favorite Schnitzler albums has been this absolutely stupid goofy cassette of 80's technopop that a friend dubbed me, no information available at all

Conrad Schnitzler/Gregor Schnitzler - Roofmusic = the bonus CD in that last Captain Trips box set

http://www.japanimprov.com/indies/captaintrip/berlinexpress.html

track 8 = 'Turkish Man Like To Dance'
track 9 = 'Tell me why you leave me now / Our love was good enough'

I was feeling a little cautious about those last 5 80's reissues on Captain Trips, but a friend brought a copy of 'Conrad Schnitzler + Wolf Sequenza - Consequenz' on a car trip and it's pretty great spaced out instrumentals, four tracks absolute top notch. the tracks stay looping in place for 4-6 minutes each, but all the sounds are beautifully off

'Consequenz II' is just as good, slightly even more together even. it's not music that develops, but the sounds are in and of themselves so disorienting that by the end of each 2 or 3 minute track you can get really bent out of shape

& people are still trying to catch up to something as pure as 'Windmill'

Just bought Zug, a piece originally issued on The Red Cassette, now reissued on vinyl on a new label, m=minimal. Backed with remixes of the piece by Pole (!) and borngräber and strüver, whom I know nothing about. Currently listening for the first time, it's pretty & mindblowing at the same time.

Melody is the WORM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbKmFERgmI

LP of live recordings from 72 sounding amazing:

http://www.furtherrecords.org/index.html

yep this track is incredible. would like to hear the rest.

http://soundcloud.com/alteredzones/conrad-schnitzler-track-12

think you can stream them from the Further site!

RIP

From Wikipedia :

Conrad Schnitzler passed away from stomach cancer in the evening 4 August 2011

Oh man... ;_;

Can't find a single news story about it.

Jesus

Supposedly "official" Conrad Schnitzler page? Still not positive how official this is. http://www.fancymoon.com/con_s/

Aw no! RIP.

ugh, sympathies

conrad schnitzler archive & live cassette concert mixed by gen ken montgomery, streaming now on wfmu

with promised special guest appearence by g. dayal

Oh great!

Very interesting. Only complaint is the background music playing during the interview parts is too loud.

thanks for listening, you guys!

it was definitely worth extending my NYC trip for this, though i am now coming down with a lousy cold

I'd say even a cold was worth it, loved listening to it! Great and fitting tribute to a wonderful man <3

a few snapshots from yesterday's WFMU session:

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/tapes.jpg

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/kwh.jpg

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/wfmu/schoenheit.jpg

I had a splendid time listening to it yesterday Geeta, a very fitting tribute!

Sometimes my friends would recognise me and come up to me, say, ‘Hey, Con, what are you doing?’ I would just speak to them in a robot voice through the loudspeaker. ‘I do not understand. I am not Con. Would you like to buy a cassette?’”

lol

oh, there's a pic too

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/schnitzler__conrad/Schnitzler-street.jpg

wow that's great. people who figured out how to live imho.

classic pic!

been listening to "Blau" a lot lately - does anyone know what the "Wild Space" bonus tracks are? very cool but clearly much more recent than the actual album!

now I'm onto Con..crazy how much "Ballet Statique" seems to have influenced Underworld

röt and blau reissued on bureau b!

picked up blau today, röt got backordered

here's hoping for schwarz, gelb, grön, con 1, con 2+ and con 3 ...

errr grün

Yeah, I got Blau, too. Already had it on CD but I'm more likely to listen to side-long electronic tracks on LP. Hope they do Schwarz et al, too!

think we talked about this on noize but the captain trip shit is so expensive at this point!

thank you again bureau b!

Got the m=minimal reissue of Ballet Statique / Con with the Red Cassette added on, amazing, where has this been all my life?

hey someone in new york go to this and post back

> The Last Weekend at AVA-Generator Saturday & Sunday
>
> Saturday September 14, 2013
>
> 12 - 6pm
> CONRAD SCHNITZLER
> SIX HOUR CASSETTE CONCERT
> CONDUCTED BY GEN KEN
> Drop by anytime Saturday for a rare opportunity to hear octophonic music composed
by one of the foremost masters of electronic music. Schnitzler studied sculpture
with Joseph Beuys before turning his attention to sound. Hear Schnitzler’s music
the way he wanted his audiences to hear it.
>
> THE LAST NIGHT AT AVA GENERATOR - Closing Party 8 - 11pm
>
> 9pm
> The Enchantress of Bioluminosity
> with live sound by Michael Zodorozny (Crash Course in Science) and Gen Ken Montgomery
> +
> 10pm
> 3D SLIDE SHOW by Lary Seven
> 3-D photographs taken at Generator 1989-1990

http://audiovisualarts.org/5973/generator

I went to this! the space was quite small but it was easy to get lost in the layers of sound and it was a real treat to be able to hear this stuff 'mixed' like that. 'gen ken' is a super nice guy too and had some amazing records and related memorabilia out.

I was unfamiliar with what was being played but I did hear some material in a 'symphonic' style I wasn't aware schnitzler had dabbled in. lots of synthesized strings and the playing was fairly busy. sorry if I'm being vague but I only caught bits here and there. would be very grateful if anyone could steer me towards any releases in schnitzler's catalog that might match this description!

gelb and grün reissued!

i always hear his name in the voice of ned flanders saying 'white wine spritzer'

only listened briefly to the gelb reissue but it sounds really good

Grun is pretty great if memory serves.

damn ballet statique fuckin' slaps

not enough talk about Silber itt, that one's staggeringly great as well, some tracks are even melodic in a proto-Chris Carter kinda way. I love Asmus Tietchens liner notes where he plays detective trying to figure out what synth was used

the essential Bureau B reissue CDs have great bonus tracks to boot, some good stuff on the Gelb CD too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e1jboetIMs

Have watched this a bunch of times, but didn't realize it was posted by his official YouTube channel, or that there were dozens of other videos to check out.

Couple of Bureau B rereleases happening:

https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/con-84

https://conradschnitzler.bandcamp.com/album/consequenz-ii