C/D Paul McCartney Solo

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"Mamunia" from Band on the Run was good, except for a bunch of out of tune guitars. Also, the cooing harmonies in "Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five" always get me. "Dear Boy" from Ram, also the short little title track. He's really always been good in spurts (yes, even today).

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"Coming Up"!!! classic

dave q, Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

My favourites from WINGSPAN: Bluebird, Junk, Waterfalls, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace, virtually everything that was on WINGS GREATEST back in the day.

Favourite videos: Goodnight Tonight, Pipes of Peace.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that "simply having a wonderful Christmastime" song (ducks)

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd forgotten that one. A classic of its genre, instantly recognisable despite using all the Christmas cliches.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Half a C: MCCARTNEY II. This is, by Macca's standards, a completely outre work. Recorded solo-style after breaking up Wings, it's full of strange experiments that occasionally work amazingly well. "Coming Up," "Summer's Day Song" and "One Of These Days" are all great songs, completely void of the usual antiseptic sheen of Paul's post-RAM work. "Frozen Jap" and "Front Parlour" are pleasantly out-of-character instrumentals. You'll want to skip the rest of the LP, though, especially "Waterfalls" and "Darkroom."

Also C: "Jet," "Too Many People," "Let Me Roll It," "Spin It On" (Wings go thrash!)

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 13 February 2003 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, yeah, I do love 'pipes of peace' and 'simply having...' too.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't forget C moon!

RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Or "Rock Show"!

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 14 February 2003 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

WINGSPAN shall be my chosen listening today.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I recently rediscovered my 'all the best' cassette that my dad gave me one christmas when I'd asked for george michael's 'faith.'

good old dad.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link


RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

RJG, your story moves me.

the pinefox, Friday, 14 February 2003 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Bizarrely, I bought that for my dad. It's one of the few compilations to celebrate the Frog Chorus. Not even the three-dimensional slipcase makes up for that oversight on WINGSPAN.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

: )

I don't think I've even seen a copy of WINGSPAN in a record store.

I reminded my dad about the 'all the best'-for-christmas thing on friday night when we were in a car. he didn't really remember. he said "and why did she [my mum] buy you that instead?" and I told him again and he understood. then he asked "and why did you want 'faith'??" and the answer was...I was six...I had seen it advertised on television.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 February 2003 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i second 1985; that song is really fun... when i was a kid, i used to really enjoy making up stupid lyrics to "let me roll it" like, um, "i can't tell you how i sneeze, my nose is like a breeze - let me blow it"... somehow that joke never got old for me!

dave k, Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

WINGSPAN seems to be on special offer everywhere now. But tread carefully, some of them have boring two-dimensional sleeves. I see there is also a WINGSPAN book available, which must be a real treat. More alarmingly, I saw a bootleg of something called the ROCKESTRA in action. I thought ROCKESTRA was just a piece of music, but no. Fortunately, the bootleg was really expensive, so I didn't get it.

Yes, COMING UP is great.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's the book:


It's an intimate scrapbook.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Miller, you're wrong. I've NEVER seen WINGSPAN on special offer ANYWHERE.

Capitals are the new italics.

the pinefox, Sunday, 16 February 2003 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link


If that's not a special offer I'll EAT MY HAT. Note controversial opinion expressed herein: the best solo Paul McCartney work did not appear until FLOWERS IN THE DIRT. Before anyone rushes to order it, please note that it appears to be two-dimensional.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"Every Night" from the first solo album is an idyll of a song, very "Railways Conserve The Environment" 1970 (as opposed to, you know, RADICAL 1970) indeed. I'd have liked it if he'd written "Come And Get It" slightly later so it could be his first solo single, because it's better than "Another Day", or if he'd written it slightly earlier so it could be a Beatles single, because it's better than "Hello Goodbye". The promo film for "Helen Wheels" is fantastically evocative. "Hi Hi Hi" is better than "My Ding-A-Ling" precisely because it *isn't* "in the tradition of the music hall" (the hilarious reason given by the ultra-conservative Charles Curran-era BBC as to why it was still playing Chuck Berry's lowpoint when it had banned the Wings song in December 1972). It's also better than "C Moon", the glorified B-side which stole the airplay.

I used to listen to my mum's copy of "All The Best" all the time. On vinyl, too.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Spies Like Us.


Love Coming Up and C Moon too.

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Every Night is wonderful. I have a fondness for the Pipes of Peace that might be spoiled by listening to it again. I wasn't the only 9 year old to have it in my class. I liked 'The Man' off that (w/Michael Jackson) a lot.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

You should give Pipes of Peace a listen and Report Back, N. The tablas make it curiously modern in the current climate. And the sentiments are obv. very much in vogue.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Following on from Robin's wishes for Macca to write songs a bit earlier... I've always had this strange dream that the four Fabs actually sat down at some point in early 70, said "Let's forget about 'let it be' and make one final fine EP, one song each..." and they end up doing "Instant Karma", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Isn't it a pity?" and "It don't come easy". Now that would have been good.

And then I wake up.

I had "All the best" on CD for many years, never listened to it, but I'll agree that "Venus and Mars" is a neglected classic, as is the first McCartney LP, very primitive but rather homely.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 February 2003 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

nick has heard PIPES OF PEACE again, recently--maybe he just didn't notice/doesn't remember.

I had dreams about WINGSPAN last night. or it featured in my last night's dreams. I think it was really big and cost one hundred and twenty-five pounds or twenty-five pounds and was sealed in plastic and didn't tell me the tracklisting.

record shopping w/ allyC, yesterday, we saw many mccartney/wings albums. WINGS AT THE SPEED OF SOUND looked OK but was on cassette and three pounds fifty.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

SPEED OF SOUND is one of the weaker Wings efforts, I think. "Wino Junko," "Must Do Something About It," "Cook of The House"...no thanks. "Time To Hide" and "Beware My Love" are OK in a '70s AOR sort of way, though.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

'silly love songs' must redeem all.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't hate that much of his studio solo stuff (don't love it either, most of it) but that new live album...the man's lost his voice and won't quit trying. Please, please stop, Paul, for your own sake. You suck like Billy Joel.

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 17 February 2003 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant the Pipes of Peace album, RJG. I heard only two tracks off it in your car.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a PIPES OF PEACE album?!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

It is not all remixes of the title track, sadly.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It has 'Say Say Say'!

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Are those the two tracks you heard in the car?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. It was RJG's famous 'All the best'. But I think 'The Man' is also 'the best'. 'Average Person' is not so good, as I recall.

Does anyone else like 'Hope of Deliverance'? I think it has a haunting melody.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. It's on heavy rotation in my head, helping me face up to the darkness that surrounds us.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

N, did you know that eric stewart of 10cc played on the Pipes of Peace album?

p.s. 'for your love'+'bus stop'=gouldman.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking of Bobby Gould.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Wasn't Pipes of Peace the one with Stanley Clarke?

dleone (dleone), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Weren't you actually thinking of Graham Gouldman, Nick?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, a mixed solo/Wings career, yet on the whole good I would say; the 1970-75 period produced generally excellent records, likewise 1978-83 (though not the poor 'Back to the Egg'...). 'McCartney II' (his best 'solo' album; most experimental and consistently engaging) & 'Pipes of Peace' (some lovely McCartney pop here) are very underrated albums. 'Tug of War''s best material is much as fine, yet it has some glaringly awful tracks which let it down. 'Red Rose Speedway', of the Wings era, is overlooked; probably the most Beatles-esque of all his post-Beatles albums, with a splendid 'Abbey Road'-like medley to close. Also 'Single Pigeon', 'When the Night' & 'One More Kiss' are deceptively slight, charming compositions. 'My Love' is a majestic McCartney ballad with wonderful guitar breaks... 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' ornate and richly produced melancholy.
'Venus and Mars' (increasingly getting some credit; good to see) and 'Band on the Run' are excellent as well. As is 'Ram' of course, a one-off record, pre-Wings, and yet with a superbly ramshackle focus to it; some very good material - a far better whole than 'McCartney'. 'London Town' - overlooked classic, with mostly fine material; 'I'm Carrying' is sublime... some good upbeat numbers here as well.
So, all of the above 'Classic' really... oh, plus 'We All Stand Together'; light-hearted whimsy given grandeur and grace... 'Once Upon a Long Ago'; amusing, quotable lyrics; a great production, sound and musical invention; fine single. 'Golden Earth Girl'; far and away ahead of most of 'Off the Ground', a majestic, atmospheric song. 'Wanderlust'; prime McCartney, would have graced a Beatles record... indeed George Martin's production and the arranging of the counter-melody harmonies bolster what is already a fine song into something special... 'Tug of War'; a song that gets in your head - brilliantly conceived melody and again production.

Dud: 'Wings at the Speed of Sound', 'Flaming Pie', 'Driving Rain' (a little better than 'FP'), 'Press to Play' (interesting yet not successful experimentation from Macca in 1986...) & 'Back to the Egg' (consistently average, only 'Old Siam Sir' makes any real impression).

Many albums of his i'm mixed about... yet, overall 'Classic', I maybe go towards this strongly as the general consensus is so unfairly a 'dud' opinion. You have to look deep into his work, and will find much that is good...

Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Macca on tour alert! Let's all go! Hits BCN at the end of March, must be in a town near you around about the same time. Well, same year. Hopefully I will be in a different town by then, but I might come back specially.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it.

mike a (mike a), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Only if people promise to biggie up 'Waterfalls'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

why did ally cook lie and say he'd answered this thread?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 22 February 2003 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

OK. Given All The Best by father also. Heard it again in Richard's car. Silly Love Songs perfect. I like other songs also.

Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it

Too late, it was in the issue with Santana on the cover.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

No one mentioned 'Arrow Through Me' from Back to the Egg. Other than that, side one of 'Ram', 'Maybe I'm Amazed', bits of McCartney II... yikes, though. yikes.

If one's scratching one's head about how badly Paul's solo cheese wears on the nerves, try the following experiment: program disc one of the white album to only play Paul's tracks. Starts off okay but the unrelenting 'Ob-la-di' to 'Martha My Dear' to 'Blackbird', by the time it gets to 'Rocky Racoon' you'll be clawing your face off.

Jon Leidecker, Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

'So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it'

Search ILM for 'Coming Up' and see how many times I've mentioned it, and how far back these mentions go. Absolute classic

dave q, Friday, 28 February 2003 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"Search ILM for 'Coming Up' and see how many times I've mentioned it, and how far back these mentions go. Absolute classic."

It should be mentioned that it's the MCCARTNEY II version that should be considered "classic." The live version, which Columbia released as a single in the US, pales in comparison (though there's a very strange meteor-shower synth break toward the end).

Am I the only person who thinks BACK TO THE EGG is almost the equal of BAND ON THE RUN/VENUS & MARS? Probably.

mike a (mike a), Friday, 28 February 2003 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

“I just wanna fuh ... YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!”

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:56 (one year ago) link

FUH! All Night!

DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:33 (one year ago) link

it really sucks

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:40 (one year ago) link

Maybe he's calling back to this.


Eliza D., Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:44 (one year ago) link

His voice is near enough Fuh'd at this point.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:13 (one year ago) link

right there
that's it

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

what is this shit

niels, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 07:22 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Love how the solo in "Maybe I'm Amazed" is the best George Harrison approximation he could do. Also the muted guitar in the second verse (I think -- about 2:15). Never paid attention to this song, but really digging it (this week).

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:00 (one year ago) link

Man, I've taken "Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey" for for my entire life. There's so much to love in it -- the chirping, the harmonies ("allllbehhhrt...ahhhhl daaaay"), his voice in the Admiral Halsey part, "leetle leetle gypsy get around"...What a song.

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:32 (one year ago) link

If pushed, that or "Another Day" would be my POO Macca solo song.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 21 March 2019 05:28 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I'm finally going out and listening to all of the Beatle's solo records. "Monkberry Moon Delight" was a nice find off of RAM. I kinda think that Paul is trying to get a Leon Russell thing going in the verses, but it's a bit more over the top. Kinda gets almost a Tom Waits kinda sounding growl at points.

earlnash, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:06 (nine months ago) link

I was thinking more Beefheart - his "Monkberry moooon deliiiiight" phrasing isn't too far from "Mooonlight on vermooooooont"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:10 (nine months ago) link

That's a good call ... certainly contemporaneous and in keeping with a lot of his solo efforts nicking other artists' styles for his own purposes.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:44 (nine months ago) link

monkberry moon delight is a bit of a favourite in my household.

listened to Ram on sunday afternoon for the first time in ages. actively enjoyed it, especially uncle albert/admiral halsey, despite that being so excruciatingly paul at his whimsical worst

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:47 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

"Hope of Deliverance" is a charming little tune.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:20 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

i finally picked up a vinyl copy of Flowers in the Dirt recently - first time i've owned it since unloading the Paul McCartney Collection expanded CD circa, idk, 2004? and i'm having a fantastic sunday night right now because this album is sounding amazing, every single track, whole way through. okay i'm not super stoked that "motor of love" just started but i'm feeling confident that its spacey sugary 80s production will sound a lot better in 2020 than even a few years ago. man, those "ah, ah ah ah" backing things are VERY "i'm not in love," aren't there?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2020 01:26 (four months ago) link

oh WEIRD the vinyl edition did not include "Ou Est Le Soleil?"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2020 01:32 (four months ago) link

maybe I'll buy that then, because that song is easily the worst thing on the album

akm, Monday, 27 January 2020 02:33 (four months ago) link

haha i've always been weirdly fond of it. tho it is kinda stupid. i'm just too used to it as a refreshing palate-cleansing closer after "motor of love." but then in turn, thanks to that deluxe CD, i've also imagined the ideal conclusion as "back on my feet" followed by "loveliest thing."

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2020 03:48 (four months ago) link

I adore "Figure of Eight," "We Got Married" (a "No More Lonely Nights" redux that works), and "This One."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2020 04:16 (four months ago) link

and the self-produced "Distraction," with its Clare Fischer arrangement, is pleasantly barmy

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2020 04:16 (four months ago) link

Kinda gets almost a Tom Waits kinda sounding growl at points.

― earlnash, Tuesday, August 13, 2019 6:06 PM (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink

spun “ram” on a whim today, this same thought occurred to me during MMD.

i’ll never stop being confounded by people who can’t get down with “uncle albert/admiral halsey” — first part especially. those layered, sighing backing vocals are so intense and beautiful

budo jeru, Monday, 27 January 2020 05:54 (four months ago) link

It’s a lovely song and yet, also part of the Monty Python canon for me

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 27 January 2020 06:25 (four months ago) link

holy shit how have i never heard this


budo jeru, Monday, 27 January 2020 08:01 (four months ago) link

There's a mono Ram knocking around online in various places and stone me if that isn't absolutely fantastic. A proper hard copy costs a fortune.

Also this,


reveals that there's a nice drop of this


in there somewhere

piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2020 09:54 (four months ago) link

huh I don't hear it myself

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:15 (four months ago) link

Drum fill used in Johnny Ryall

PaulTMA, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:35 (four months ago) link

Mono Ram may be a fold-down?

timellison, Monday, 27 January 2020 18:09 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Nice interview with Alan Alda:


timellison, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 22:06 (two months ago) link

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