Carla Bley - C or D/S or D?

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Great to see you back posting things like this Marcello. Totally agree abt the lameness/tameness of Carla's current players as compared to the old gang (god I love Roswell Rudd) tho' I think there are modern-day jazz musicians- not even 'free' players, necessarily - who might provide a bit more spark - did she ever collaborate w/ David Murray, for example?

I'd like to know more abt Don Ellis, he seems interesting

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 26 June 2003 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

haha yes i doubt i ever played that record once since!! i wonder if i still have it

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 26 June 2003 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

haha yes i doubt i ever played that record [Night-Glo] once since!! i wonder if i still have it

Send it to me!

(I like Night-Glo a lot: though I certainly can't blame anyone else for not being a fan, it gave me some very real insights when I needed them badly [8th grade] and I'm still quite attached to the record...but I still don't own it!)

Phil (phil), Thursday, 26 June 2003 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm listening to this album for the first time right now, very fascinating stuff. It reminds me slightly of Devil Doll at times, except with lots of jazz and loftier ideals. Very cool and compelling so far!

Main reason I'm posting here is to clear out something I saw above; the CD version of this DOES come with a book, not a regular jewel case booklet either, but a separate one that's held together with the jewelcase in a slipcase (see: Sgt Peppers Lonely Buns Club Band)

Also, I bought this brand new from ECM, so it should be quite in print, at least here in Europe.
Anyhoo, back to listening and scrambling around the board to read about it.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 9 August 2003 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The Karen Mantler album to get is "Farewell" which features the best aspects of her hapless child act without getting too cutesy. Lyrics about what a mess she is and how much she misses her dead cat, none of which rhyme or scan. The music is simple (mostly Hammond) but with lots of nice kitchen-sink percussion and whatnot, and the chord changes are clearly coming from someone who's more together than she's pretending (esp. on the centerpiece ode to Arnold the cat). Probably would appeal more to indie rockers than to jazz fans (chickfactor gave it a good review way back when).

Yes the thread was about Carla, but it seems unfair to exclude someone with the same hairstyle.

dlp9001, Sunday, 10 August 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
so, musique mecanique? i came across this when looking for, well, musique mecanique (demain pianos and l'eppes and such like). is it just using a title to suggest such things, or is there such instrumentation on the record?

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 19 May 2005 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Instrumentation on Musique Mechanique includes toy piano and walkie-talkies. Eugene Chadbourne's also in the line-up so that gives you a good idea of the general pomo jokey tenor of the record. Most of side one is taken up with an extended pisstake of Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra (with Haden himself guesting in a Being John Malkovich kind of a gamely way). On side two, apart from the decayed Satie/Robert Wyatt crossover of the title track, you get Roswell Rudd "singing" ("At Midnight") and the final section trades on the stuck needle gag, which it repeats about 98 times. Bit too Rag Week for my tastes, but many people dig it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 19 May 2005 06:17 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm, i see what you mean, i dont really think thats suited to my tastes either.

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 19 May 2005 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

never did get this, but i did get dinner music

696, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

What did you make of it (don't say "dinner")?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

only played the first track so far, it sounds very...slick, pastichey? it makes me think of Surrey, for some reason

696, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link

It comes across to me as a satire on fusion muzak which doesn't quite come off but "Dining Alone" is a great song and "Ida Lupino," featuring CB's Jonathan Richman-style saxophone playing, was obviously heard by Smokey Robinson (cf. brass harmonies here and vocal harmonies in the verses to "Being With You").

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

have you seen the cover of the new emily haines album, marcello?

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-792756-1159304909.jpeg

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

have you read the extensive review of the new emily haines album which i posted on my blog six months ago, alex?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

not yet. is it that old? anyways i always try to save the good things for later...

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

shit, now i realise that i know that album. at least parts of it. i hadn't seen the cover though. this is a rare case where the internet made me focus on the music without being distracted by images.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually I posted that review eight months ago - doesn't time fly etc.

Since this pathetic fucking retarded system won't let me link TO MY OWN BLOG go to CoM, look up Oct 2006 archives, why should I do all the work...

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry for the hiccup when (re)loading this thread. i guess that is the discogs website telling me that i shouldn't try to link to their album cover images...

maybe the system knows it is your site, marcello. and it doesn't allow shameless self-promotion. but i as a third party can link there. ;-)

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I fucking LOVE Carla Bley.

Faves are:
-Escalator Over The Hill
-Music Mechanique
-her compositions on some of the early paul bley LPs (esp the "Closer" LP on ESP.)

Just listening to Escalator Over The Hill again today and it really smokes my bacon.

ian, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

EOTH is awesome, my favorite opening of a jazz album next to saint & the sinner lady

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

nine years pass...

I love Carla Bley

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:14 (two years ago) link

She just turned 82

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:14 (two years ago) link

I just played a show with the guys from 0ingo B0ingo and Slugg0 told me Carla and Ann3tte Peac0ck hated each other back in the day

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:15 (two years ago) link

Another heart-stopping thread revive.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:16 (two years ago) link

Fuck you!
S - Tropic Appetites, Dinner Music, Musique Mecanique and Social Studies. That Michael Mantler album with Robert Wyatt and Edward Gorey lyrics is off the hook too.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:19 (two years ago) link

... in the sense that I thought she was dead, you lunatic.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:20 (two years ago) link

haha sorry. happy bday CB!

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:21 (two years ago) link

I posted a Morricone song yesterday and ppl got mad cux they thought he was dead. I gotta calm down.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:22 (two years ago) link

just off to revive the Sonny Rollins thread:p

calzino, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:24 (two years ago) link

She did some awesome arrangements on Haden's The Ballad of The Fallen as well.

calzino, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:27 (two years ago) link

Gary Burton, "Genuine Tong Funeral"

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:28 (two years ago) link

Searching that out now

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:29 (two years ago) link

I discovered Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports this year and it's up there with my favorites of hers.

cwkiii, Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:33 (two years ago) link

Inspired by Downtown Music Gallery's enewsletter LP sale, I checked several listed albums featuring Bley, sale list and comments here: Rolling Jazz Thread 2018, little bit here too: Robert Wyatt: Classic or Dud?

Spotify has a bunch more.

dow, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:06 (two years ago) link

Or some more, at least.

dow, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:06 (two years ago) link

Gary Burton, "Genuine Tong Funeral"

― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:28 (thirty-eight minutes ago) Permalink

Gary Burton Quartet's "Dreams So Real" as well

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:10 (two years ago) link

such dedication to a hairdo.

scott seward, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:12 (two years ago) link

this is really good by the way. if you want something more current.

https://www.discogs.com/Carla-Bley-Andy-Sheppard-Steve-Swallow-Andando-El-Tiempo/master/1037191

scott seward, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:13 (two years ago) link

also best birth name: Lovella May Borg

scott seward, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:15 (two years ago) link

I get pathetically teary when I play Silence (off The Ballad of the Fallen), to me it's a profoundly sad and moving piece of music and it also makes me think of people who are gone for some reason. But anyway, basically Carla Bley is definitely classic and I should catch up on some of her newer stuff.

calzino, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:20 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

► Pre-order Carla Bley Trio: ‘Life Goes On’ and listen to the title track here: https://t.co/MRioVypy9p

A striking album of new music from Carla Bley, whose trio with Andy Sheppard and Steve Swallow is now in its 25th year. pic.twitter.com/QNLqRjY2Y0

— ECM Records (@ECMRecords) January 10, 2020

calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 11:35 (eight months ago) link


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