Quitting coffee and the ensuing effects

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Mike, do you know Chatz at ummmmm, is it Howard and 2nd?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I am addicted to their "Fog Lifters".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i quit it about a month ago. just general crankiness in the morning. nothing new.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't know Chatz. What is?

I've taken to only drinking espresso oddly enough. Cuts way down on the caffeine, big on taste, and because of lower volume and no milk ends up easier on tum as well.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

My body hates coffee too, I have an allergy to caffeine that only developed a few years back - the withdrawal was pure hell for a couple of weeks but when you come out the other side you feel 10 times better, I swear!

smee (smee), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Chatz is a great little hole in the wall coffee place. They are very friendly people. I think it is a chain with some retail stores as well?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

On the other thread I was suggesting you check out Van Heusen for clothes at 2nd and Mission.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes yes. I saw that.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i used to not be affected by caffeine and while i'd drink coffee often i never felt anything from it. sometimes i had like a cup a day, sometimes none, sometimes 2 or 3. but then i started getting coffee from this place near home (when i moved to this current apt) and the stuff got me so addicted. it's french roast and very strong and will often make me lightheaded, high, and weird heartbeat. A few weeks ago I started using a coffee maker to cut down on cost. the stuff i started out with was pretty light, but i just ran out of that first pound. today i picked up a pound of that french roast and i have the two little bags of it sitting right in front of me smelling OH SO GOOD. i cant wait to get home and brew up a cup or 5. it's at least as effective as ephedra and im never quitting.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm back to drinking some coffee, although not nearly as much as I did before. It's very hard to quit altogether.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha, I was just wondering about this thread as I bought a bag of coffee beans this morning finally...looks like I made it just about a month. I still drank some tea, and surprisingly had no negative effects, just lessened anxiety, no more erratic heartbeat, and no longer shaky. I'm going to try monitored intake now; I really had the taste for good espresso today. There was an article in the NY Times a couple of weeks ago about caffeine intoxication that was quite edifying.

webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The coffee I make at home is crap no matter what I do.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

@d@m -- I think someone said this upthread, but why not try tea? It won't help kick the caffeine -- I think it actually has more. But it'll keep the headaches away and it's easy on the stomach.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

it's too effeminate.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Also-it tastes bad.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't quit coffee since I have a picture of a cup of it tattooed on my forearm.

I suppose I could get the fob from a tea bag tattooed over it so it would become a cup of tea, but that's kinda wanky.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh well. I'm hardly one to talk -- didn't make it much longer than a month on tea alone.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

drink coke

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Um...but stomach.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Or was that just a plug?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you a street teamer? 4AD are obviously paying you a fortune.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

@d@aml, coffee at home is crap, yes. Esp. filter. The only way I've been able to do it well is with an espresso machine. Just takes a lot more time to make though, time that I'd rather use sitting at my kitchen table and drinking coffee!

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The little stove-top espresso makers make a pretty good cup if you drink it with cream. Black still comes out pretty crap though.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

coke has nothing to do with 4ad!

but yes you should drink FLAT coke with ice, it won't mess up your stomach, and if you drink five of them you won't be fiending for caffeine

or just eat no-doze

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 April 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate coffee. it tastes like real poo and only grown ups drink it.
it makes you stink inside also

splatter, Thursday, 22 April 2004 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I am trying to go at least a week without caffeine as part of a detox - i've had kinds of digestive problems recently so thought i'd give healthy living a go. it's now 4pm on day one of caffeine-free living and result so far is a filthy headache and chonic latte cravings. anyone offer some hope that i'll feel better soon, or should i just go to starbucks right now and be done with it?

Mog, Thursday, 10 June 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

headache will last a day (maybe a day and a half if you drank alot). the hard part will be learning to wake up without caffeine. after a week you will feel awesome.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 10 June 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
i quit caffeine about 2 years ago. before that i was a pretty serious about things like coffee. withdrawal was pure hell -- i had cold sweats, headaches, shook a lot, etc. took me three weeks for it to get out of my system properly. and to think it was a new years resolution that i had pretty much expected to give up after a week!

but here i am and im feeling fine. well, right now im not. starbucks gave me a regular latte and i feel like im going to die.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i had like 3 oz. of coffee yesterday morning and i was wired all day! this is what happens when you give up caffeine. seriously, it was the first bit of coffee i've had in several months. i was just happy i was able to fall asleep last night.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i had one of those "venti" sized things. i dont think my stomach has felt this bad since i had food poisioning.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee is the Man's drug, the only drug supplied to the workforce free by EVERY EMPLOYER. It is a tool to make you "more productive". It made me irritable and hurt my stomach. Fuck that shit. I quit shortly after college (where I'd had a coffee-jerk job and drank *way* too much espresso). I ddin't have any trouble giving it up, I guess I may have used chai as a crutch occasionally while in the "quitting" process...I'll still drink it every now and then for specific purposes (long car trips, late night mixing sessions, etc.) but as a daily stimulant I don't miss it at all. I think I am sort of an aberration in this respect tho, most people look at me like I'm totally insane when I tell them I regularly hop out of bed, ready to go, every morning (work day or no) at 7:30am. My body just does that...

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 April 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I try not to drink the stuff for more than 2 days in a row and no more than 4 times a week. I find that keeps away all the weird side effects I suffered from when I used to be a regular coffee drinker.

xpost - I can't handle the venti caliber coffees either. One of those and I'm ready to jump out of my skin!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

My hypersensitivity to caffeine prevents me from overindulging. 2 small cups a day is all I can handle, and that seems to prevent it from getting out of hand.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

* looks at Shakey Mo as if he's totally insane *
* falls asleep *

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm thinking about doing this, at least for a while. Anyone kicked the bean here? What effects/strategies/advice have you?

-- webcrack (signon2...), March 23rd, 2004.

I quit for four or five months at one point. I wouldn't say it changed my life, but there are some minor benefits -- slightly improved digestion and maybe sleep, and generally a more 'steady' mood with fewer ups and downs. The best way to quit is to start mixing your regular with decaf and gradually reduce the proportion. That way you don't have to break the psychological addiction and the physical one at the same time.

Quitting honestly wasn't that hard once I decided to do it. The problem was more the discipline of keeping it up, especially when I took on a demanding internship. Once you decide to have "just one cup" it's pretty much over.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

the thing that helped me get through it was water with lemon and lots of aspirin.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Weirdly, I've just gone off caffiene without trying. I used to have to have a coffee every morning - now I can't face it, I'd rather have tea (its more thirst quenching).

I'm also finding I've developed a sensitivity to guarana as well - it sometimes gives me this really bad attack of what feels like hypoglycemia, I get all weak, shaky, and faint.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair, there were a couple of painful days, but really nothing unbearable.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just not right. I can drink an XL starbucks coffee and still be sleepy.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Give me back my peanut.

Eyeball Kix, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I think thats just because its Starbucks coffee, Kim ;) ;)

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link


I quit about a month ago, and I feel much better.

You Work For Irene (dymaxia), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee is the Man's drug, the only drug supplied to the workforce free by EVERY EMPLOYER.

Supplied FREE? It certainly isn't free where I work - it's 20p a cup from the vending machine, or bring your own in.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah wasn't free when I was teaching either.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

the thing that helped me get through it was water with lemon and lots of aspirin.

a lot of painkillers have caffeine in them! (dunno if you were using 'asprin' as a general term for 'painkiller' or what but thought it would be worth mentioning.)

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway I'm off it now too, I only had a cup in the morning anyway so it wasn't like I was mainlining it. I kept some cold coffee in the fridge for a week or two and put a shot in my milk every morning, and then I stopped doing that. I think I've had a half-cup of tea maybe twice since, I'm not too concerned about it.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a 20 oz. cup in the morning when I get into work - I don't know if I'm numb to it, but it doesn't really do much for me (except warm my tum-tum). And that's my coffee intake for the day. On weekends, I don't have any (except on rare occasions, after a meal, w/ desert). And I have the occasional jumbo-sized sody pop. And a soda @ work. I probably get most of my caffeine thru soda.

I just had a 20 oz. Mountain Dew, and it felt like I had gone swimming in it after I finished. Very strange. I think fountain sodas are kinder to me than bottled sodas (possibly a carbonation issue).

I USED to have wicked shakes after drinking caffeine, tho. And occasional headaches. I only get headaches now after drinking Gatorade, which I don't do anymore, because of the headaches.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee is the Man's drug, the only drug supplied to the workforce free by EVERY EMPLOYER.

I knew the printing company I worked for was in trouble when the coffee well ran dry. (Five months later, Chapter 7; one year later, Chapter 13.)

Remember in Leaving Las Vegas how Cage's character had to drink a certain amount to keep from getting the shakes? That's me and coffee. I should probably quit, but I love it so much, especially since my wife bought me a grind-and-brew coffee maker and I can go straight from beans to brew.

Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

huh - well, me personally I've never worked anywhere, office, retail, or otherwise, that didn't have a coffee pot in the breakroom or something. Sure the coffee might've been low quality, but it was still there to drink for all who wanted it.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I always had as well until I became a teacher. Fifty cents for a small styrofoam cup from the cafeteria. Just an example of what a shitty work environment schools are. . .

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Sheesh how much coffee were you drinking camaraderie? and you too Tracer if you don’t mind answering

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 2 February 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link

Not even that much! I'd say 3-4 cups a day. 2 in the morning, then a double espresso in the afternoon. But I've done this for pretty much ever since I can remember. A decade? Two? So the switch has been a little rough. I feel fuzzy and disconnected, like what I imagine antidepressants might feel like. The edges sanded off. I miss ol' rootin tootin Tracer. And it takes.. several seconds to like, form the words of a response if somebody asks me a question. It's like Flowers for Algernon lol

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:19 (one year ago) link

Worth saying too this was not my idea; my doc recommended it as a mitigation for my migraines

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:27 (one year ago) link

I was having two, maybe three cups per day, but I have a heart condition which causes frequent tachycardia.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

I felt groggy for a few days but now feel significantly better in the mornings especially (the "before I've had my coffee" time)

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:49 (one year ago) link

Sincere best wishes to you both

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:55 (one year ago) link

I know more people that have cut out coffee than have cut out alcohol, tbh. I couldn't imagine. The same neuroscience doc I posted about in the alcohol thread, he's brought up coffee a few times, and given his objective buzzkill-ness I keep expecting him to tell everyone to cut it out, too, but he keeps finding positive things to say about coffee/caffeine. For example, not only is its dopamine kick much, much lower than stuff like chocolate, but chemically it actually positively affects your dopamine receptors in a beneficial way (as opposed to the usual peaks and valleys of its stimulant peers). Surprising.

Anyway, good luck! I hear the first two weeks of quitting anything can be the toughest.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

yes post all my procedures (see the atrial fibbing thread for details) i have a high resting heart rate and have intermittently come off coffee for a few months at a time to see if that makes a difference

well it doesn't so i'm back on right now -- my cardiologist says absent other problematic symptoms the high heart rate isn't concerning him especially (check in again at the end of the year) and as far as he's concerned coffee is unrelated and good for you in other ways

once i've actually fkn moved house -- i whish this could hurry up a bit lol -- i might try cutting down again as i want to shift all my habits a bit in the new place (walk more, swim more, lose some weight, eat a salad) as i definitely sleep much better after the several (many) days of dreary grief

mainly i fall off the wagon bcz hard-deadline subbing & proofing needs me to be SHARP AS A PIN FIRST THING (but my plan is to be doing less of that also, as it pais less and less and less and less)

mark s, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:20 (one year ago) link

Ugh, I have both migraines and heart palpitations, so I guess I probably should cut out coffee, but I'm scared of the withdrawal migraines and what will happen when I don't have it to help me focus.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

(lol not me discussing proofing and being sharp as a pin and then spelling "pays" as "pais")

mark s, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

fwiw have have had only a low-level headache for one (1x) day as a result of this and today i'm actually feeling pretty good mentally, just a bit bereft of my little ritual

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

In my experience, the brutal symptoms (headaches, fogginess) are all really, really frontloaded in those first few days. Superstitiously, I go for rehydrating drinks, hot showers, Tylenol and naps. Eventually you're on the other side.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

and that’s where i am

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

guys i have been taking only magnificent shits

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

A good substitute for the ritual aspect, I've found during times where I had to swear off coffee: heating a cup of broth.

Chris L, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link

i am drinking roiboos tea like my life depends on it. probably will develop some form of roiboos-inflicted malady

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

I gave up alcohol five years ago to save my life and my marriage. I'm sure as fuck not giving up coffee.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

guys i have been taking only magnificent shits


Was this necessary to share, also I’m concerned if this is you after coffee

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here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

lol a barry zito macro for every occasion

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

i just had coffee again and gents this is the stuff

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:58 (ten months ago) link

sorry wrong thread. or is it.i am absolutely flying. seeing through the universe. cracking jokes before i even start my sentence.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:59 (ten months ago) link

sightly unsettling vibes in my extremities and general heart location

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:59 (ten months ago) link

thread's here if you need it :(

the thread of ATRIAL FIBBING

mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:14 (ten months ago) link

:/

i think i'm okay. but suddenly very emotional

caffeine's a hell of a drug, kids

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:19 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

god i fucking love roiboos

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 08:31 (ten months ago) link

stand by for a "quitting roiboos and the ensuing effects" thread

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 08:31 (ten months ago) link

🤖

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 08:53 (ten months ago) link

Did the thing of drinking restaurant coffee which revealed that I was in a worse mood than I thought :(

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:43 (ten months ago) link

One brand that for whatever reason does not give me that weird erratic takeoff and crash on the runway feeling is Lavazza.

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:45 (nine months ago) link

Perhaps I spoke too soon

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 June 2023 01:31 (nine months ago) link


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