― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 02:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 02:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 02:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
Forsberg? He's no Borje Salming. But then again who is?
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah. To him the Euro players are either wimps who like to take dives or dirty fighters. So the swedes usually go into the latter category.
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
Im just trying to remeber who the first big three or so were who defected from the Red Army team. Its funny to call them defectors now days.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 03:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 04:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Ulf.)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 13 March 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
So what did he do now?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
he's cheerleading for TO's new evil overlord.
― Kim, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
fuck this fucking asshole. as antexit just said to me, tomorrow is becoming the town in back to the future 2 when biff takes over.
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/1207ford.jpg
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
“Put that in your pipe you left-wing kooks,” hockey commentator Don Cherry told a shocked inaugural meeting of the new city council, blasting “left-wing pinkos.”
Cherry was Mayor Rob Ford’s pick for a “special guest” for the pomp-filled ceremony. Cherry turned up in a pink-and-white silk jacket and patterned tie that was eye-popping even for the famously flamboyant TV star.
The co-host of Hockey Night in Canada’s Coach’s Corner put the chain of office around Ford’s neck — something normally done by the city clerk — and then sat stoically, clapping as each of the 44 councillors got their ceremonial oaths of offices and posed for photos with Ford.
While Cherry is famously outspoken few, it seemed, were ready for the three-minute blast he delivered after being asked to make some remarks.
“I’m wearing pinko for all the pinkos out there that ride bicycles and everything, I thought I’d get it in,” Cherry said to a sharp intake of breath, then laughs and some claps.
“What’d ya expect, Ron MacLean here, to come here?,” he said, referring to his buttoned-down foil on Coach’s Corner.
Cherry, a Ford supporter who had not met the new mayor until Tuesday’s event, said he was “befuddled” by criticism of Ford’s choice of him.
“I’m being ripped to shreds by the left-wing pinko newspapers out there — it’s unbelievable. One guy called me a jerk in a pink suit so I thought I’d wear that for him too today,” Cherry said.
He said he was made fun of for going to church and called “maudlin” for honouring Canadian troops.
“This is what you’ll be facing, Rob, with these left-wing pinkos — they scrape the bottom of the barrel.”
After the ceremony, a nonchalant Ford said didn’t know that his special guest was going to use his airtime to attack political opponents.
“I didn’t know,” he said. “I’ve been a huge fan. Don is exactly what you see is what you get.”
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ibiketo.ca/blog/open-letter-mez-don-cherry-stop-being-asshole-cyclists
― rent, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Having taught hundreds and hundreds of you-peoples over the years, I can confirm they participate fully in all Remembrance Day observances.
http://globalnews.ca/video/6151701/you-love-our-way-of-life-don-cherry-criticized-for-comments-on-immigrants-poppies
(I love watching the people in close proximity to these kinds of train wrecks--you can see Ron McLean die a little when his eyes cast downward on the words "you people.")
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
Oops--MacLean. Who is evidently dealing with not confronting him.
I have worked with Don for 30 years, and we both love hockey. But last night, I know we failed you. I see hockey as part of what unites us. I have the honour of travelling across our country to celebrate Canada's game, and our diversity is one of our country's greatest strengths.— Ron MacLean (@RonMacLeanHTH) November 10, 2019
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
PSA to my people: when "Don Cherry" is trending on Twitter, it's not what you think/hope it is.— Nate Chinen (@natechinen) November 10, 2019
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsRz3TJDEY
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link
promising thread titles that turn out NOT to be on ILM
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Monday, 11 November 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link
... be back in a minute
Don, let me introduce you to “#youpeople”My great grandfather, Hira Singh, who served in WW1 & WW2 under the British.We honour all who served. #RemembranceSunday pic.twitter.com/pNeBlJMC4R— Jagmeet Singh (@theJagmeetSingh) November 10, 2019
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Monday, 11 November 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link
I feel like McLean should have said something in the moment on air tbh.
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Monday, 11 November 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
*MacLean
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Monday, 11 November 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link
Poppy racism, that's a new one
― jmm, Monday, 11 November 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link
(xpost) MacLean does too--I posted the wrong part of that tweet.
"I want to sincerely apologize to our viewers and Canadians. During last night's broadcast, Don made comments that were hurtful and prejudiced and I wish I had handled myself differently. It was a divisive moment and I am truly upset with myself for allowing it."
That's a tough spot. I don't watch hockey broadcasts, so I don't have any sense of MacLean, but he seems uncomfortable in the clip. You want to think you'd do the right thing and confront him; in same place, I can't say for sure that I just wouldn't stare blankly and wait for the moment to pass.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 November 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
It's about as sound as the 19th century French doctor Prosper Lucas's Theory of Impregnation, which posits that a woman's first lover is bound to leave an indelible, biological mark upon her. So much so, in fact, that if she goes on to have children with another man, her offspring will ultimately resemble her first lover.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
Also I never have a loonie for a poppy and where do you buy them nowadays? I always got mine at the hospital.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
Do you wear a poopy?
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
Immigrants are opening dollar stores en masse to hoard loonies away from the reach of old stock Canadians that poppies may remain unpurchased and unworn forever.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:47 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Posts vmic :)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
as an american the whole poppy thing has always seemed so weird and fraught and ive always been really glad we dont have it in the states
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link
lol you can blame Zola for that one.
xp
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
The poppy might be strange but certainly Americans are on a whole other level with their celebration of the warrior class.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
as someone from the uk who has only lived in canada for 7 years I'm not sure if the whole poppy thing here has followed the trajectory of the uk poppy thing, which was:
until the iraq war - remembrance day is a thing. some people wear a poppy
which then turned into:
which politician can wear the biggest poppy?, buy a poppy shaped pizza, a man in a giant poppy costume, where's your fucking poppy?, no one gets served in the pub this weekend if they're not wearing a poppy, every football team better have a poppy emblazoned on their shirt on the nearest weekend to remembrance day, etc.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it's a case of once a year vs. every few milliseconds.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
Can't say I've witnessed that kind of one-upmanship (dare I call it… virtue signalling?), jim. But like I said upthread, I think it's demonstrably less of a big deal in Quebec.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link
In England last week, it's been a wondrous joy again watching who does and doesn't wear a poppy, who wears it with gusto or visibly against their will etc etc. Then there's the sellers on the street, in Oxfam, the bogus sellers and frauds. And commerce doing a 'who is the holiest' measuring contest while trying to not be too on the nose (yet still being too much on the nose) about it. It's an atrocious spectacle.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
americans didn't fight at vimy ridge or (for the most part) get buried in flanders fields, so the wwi/armistice day stuff isn't quite as resonant. plus we already had memorial day, which seems to have arisen after the civil war
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
Pure anecdotal and possibly speculative, but what struck me most was when we were waiting in between trains, we got some grub at a pub near St. Pancras in London. Three guys walk in, all in suits, and while sitting down they all removed their poppies; like civil servants finally done working for the man after a long day and removing it just to be able to breathe again, before ordering a pint.
The poppy as a symbol for what it is supposed to stand for just doesn't cut it anymore. It creates whole new divides imho.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
several xp:: yes obv not comparing the respective levels of war lust between these great nations, just thankful to not have to deal with the specific social phenomenon of the poppy & poppy-adjacent controversies.
honestly pretty surprised that a similar thing never caught on in the states, we are very psychologically primed for it, for sure. closest usa equivalents i can think of might be the iraq war era fad of displaying yellow 'support our troops' magnets on our beloved giant automobiles, and a post-9/11 media obsession with politicans wearing or not wearing little american flag lapel pins, but neither of those got that intense and eventually faded away as americans' interest in the war waned.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
You've 'Support our troops' and 'Never forget' and the star spangled banner covering a lot of that ground though, right? It's not the same though, I agree. It's probably to do with your last sentence, "as americans' interest in the war waned", which is... kind of a thing.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
there's a minor trend in the usa of troops 'secretly' returning from deployment and 'surprising' their families at sporting events. i don't even have words for how disgusting i find it
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
I thought that stopped after one too many videos of 'soldier makes surprise return and has his dog jump on him' videos from before the youtube era :(
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
Some notable moments in the Tucker Carlson interview. For one, Carlson makes no attempt to deny that Cherry was talking about immigrants (and nor does Cherry) when he celebrates and defends his words. Secondly, Cherry himself seems a bit dumbstruck when Carlson says that Cherry's critics are fascists with no feelings. (I saw a comment on Twitter that Cherry got to feel what it's like to be Ron MacLean). Lastly, lol @ this San Fran-born, New England private school-educated scion of privilege's ostensible affinity for the traditionalism of the people in northern Quebec and rural Ontario.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6103177588001/#sp=show-clips
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 05:24 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJN7fpmX0AEFgse?format=jpg&name=large
Cherry got to feel what it's like to be Ron MacLean
lol
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Oh wow, the CBSC has now been overwhelmed with complaints about another TV host (that I've never heard of before now tbh) responding to Cherry because she insulted white people and hockey players, apparently: https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2019/11/14/broadcast-council-overwhelmed-by-complaints-over-ctv-correspondents-comments-on-don-cherry-hockey-culture.html
(#BoycottCTV is trending on Twitter and I'm thinking I should either stop reading Twitter or get better at ignoring whatever is trending.)
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 15 November 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link
The feeling when you are happy people are boycotting CTV but you also don't agree with their reasons.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 15 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
It seems like the guy has, if anything, become more guarded over time, although the most striking part of this exchange might be realizing that there was a time when CBC journalists were willing to actively confront an interview subject when he shoots off:
Don Cherry with Eric Holling, 1990 pic.twitter.com/s4qKbGcrTZ— Nathan Caranci (@NathanCaranci) November 14, 2019
― No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 15 November 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Yeah I remember when he mocked lgbt culture and LA for not being ‘tough enough’ before a Kings game in the early 90s I believe by posing a super effeminate hockey fan. They had replayed as one of those good ole Don clips.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
https://blankforms.org/events/the-great-trip-rare-and-unheard-music-from-don-cherry/
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
Homonymy strikes again.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link
every update i'm hoping for a RIP.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link
Failing that, I'd actually be cool with turning this into a thread about the Other, Good Don Cherry and drowning out the existence of our national fuckface altogether.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link
oh lol, wrong thread
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
It's the Canadian shibboleth we wish we didn't have.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:44 (three years ago) link