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and Zappa - all three of those guys got the "Rykodisc treatment", too, coincidentally

KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Stones issued Sticky Fingers on cd in 90, 94 & 09. Costello issued This Year's Model in 86, 93, 02 & 07. One more time - what a huge difference! Point is, these artists that control their catalog have huge incentive to switch labels and reissue stuff whenever they can.

Hell, I've bought the Soft Boys' Underwater Moonlight four times on cd. I'm an enabler.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i was actually thinking of the Stones' early ones, which only came out once before they were done perfectly in 2001 or whatever it was. had to take exception 'cuz there's a night and day difference between the two issues.
sorry for derailing on Paul Simon's watch

KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I wasn't clear to start - those abkco remaster are great. The Stones don't own those though so can't milk 'em.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

A really talented guy who since the mid 80s has done the mistake of letting other people control a bit too much of his sound and songwriting style. "Hearts And Bones" is fantastic, and seems to be his peak. "Surprise" was an aptly titled Eno collaboration though, just need to relax the rhythm section even a good bit and find back to his good, old pre-"Graceland" style.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 13 November 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

New album streaming on NPR. Sounds pretty good, glad to hear him dabbling in Afropop again, the rhythms overall are stronger than anything he's done in a long time (and I think rhythm is really key to his best songwriting).

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

He's touring the US and doing mid-sized halls and some club gigs (930 club and others).

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 April 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this sounds good!

tylerw, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"dazzling blue" kinda dazzling!

tylerw, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't kept up with his new output since Rhythm of the Saints (other than hearing the ghastly Capeman). This is nice, in a pleasantly unassuming sort of way. Nothing jumped out me after one listen but it was solid throughout.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 4 April 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

you're the one is worth hearing.... surprise has its moments, but some of those moments are not so hot.

tylerw, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The coupla tracks I heard from the new one implies Simon learned a few lessons from Eno, even if that last record was a stiff.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Stuff I read about this: He samples Sonny Terry. "Amulet" was originally an instrumental he wrote for Brazilian singer Luciana Souza who added her own vocal melody overtop.

Here's part of the L. Souza with Simon duet at the Beacon in NYc awhile back doing "Amulet". The Simon album version is just an instrumental

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v517/paulfournier/Paul%20Simon%20Beacon%20NYC%202-13-09/?action=view¤t=Amulet2-13-09016.flv

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

He samples a bit of Reverend J.M. Gates' sermon "getting Ready for Christmas Day" in “Getting Ready For Christmas Day"

http://dust-digital.com/gates

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.avclub.com/articles/paul-simon,53706/

some interesting bits in this interview. He explains the "Jay-Z" lyrical reference and talks about Eno and his 18 year-old son playing James Blake for him

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I listened to some of the Panda Bear (from Animal Collective) stream on NPR after this one on NPR and I think Simon, despite utilizing some of his same ol' techniques, is less monochromatic than Panda Bear who is stuck on his dreamy Brian Wilson thing. Not that either one is great, but this appears to be more listenable. Does this type of thinking mean I'm old?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the rhythms overall are stronger than anything he's done in a long time (and I think rhythm is really key to his best songwriting).

I swear I read somewhere that while Simon had done so on ocassion before Graceland, that starting with that cd he began emphasing the usage of interesting rhythms that he heard from others to get him out of a songwriting block. He uses influences from others to kickstart his writing. Now previously we have discussed how some of his collaborators (Los Lobos, Terrance Simien) have grumbled that they have not gotten any songwriting credit on songs(some defend Simon on this).

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I hear the so-called "rhythmic" approach on his first solo album!

Sometimes over the years he added rhythm himself via guitar in the songwriting process and sometime in the studio via supporting musicians at various stages of the songwriting process. With some albums he notes in that AV Club interview that he started with drums first.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

at the end of the day, will any bed of exotica rhythms or chance operations overcome the preciousness inherent to simon's songwriting though?

bb, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Will any message board put an end to rhetorical questions?

But, to answer it, the preciousness is his most charming feature, cuz it's so precise.

You won't find an answer to your question here bb, we've got diamonds on the soles of our shoes.

Euler, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

or: xp

Euler, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i knew he was talking about that jay-z billboard, it was close to my house.

mizzell, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Interview is interesting. Funny how to him this is less of a 'drum' record, but to me it seems more rhythmically alive than the last few. I like this, because it makes sense of some things I've long thought about him, that people miss a lot of what makes him great by focusing so much on his lyrics:

I like working with sound—sound and rhythm. I like the abstract more than “What does that mean?” Nobody ever says to you, “Why did you use a harmonium?” Or “What is that ringing sound that occurs here?” The questions are always “What does that song mean?” or “What were you trying to say here?” The abstract is just more interesting because it doesn’t really have anything to say, but if it is good, it creates thoughts and feelings, and I enjoy that. For me, once the music creates those thoughts and feelings, I begin to write a song about it. But if I just left it at the instrumental track, I think people would listen to it and think up their own songs and thoughts. That would be fun, too.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Surprise isn't bad at all, I just never listen to it.

btw there's some docfilm on the way about the making of Bridge over Troubled Water

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yeahhh, i think it's included w/ the new reish of that album.
preciousness, eh? i mean, maybe at times, but to me it's more clarity of intent. or something.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

it's interesting to me how the real "serious" sorta folk songwriting giants of the 60s - Dylan, Neil Young, Paul Simon - who could all be comfortably resting on their laurels by now, are still cranking out records. and genuinely interesting records at that. whereas all the more rock guys are burned out and worthless (lol Rolling Stones)

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

probably something to do with being a band vs. a solo artist? all of the dudes you mentioned (dylan, young, simon) have been able to swtich things up in terms of collaborators and sounds over the years, whereas the stones are kinda locked in one thing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm yeah that makes sense.

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

otoh Lou Reed, not so vital a songwriter anymore eh

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah not really. i sort of expect lou to have one more good to great album, but maybe that is expecting too much. does he even really write songs anymore?

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

A Bigger Bang was better than Surprise.

harsh

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

A- vs B record.

playing Glastonbury if the hints are owt to go by
http://www.nme.com/news/glastonbury/55932

piscesx, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

how come no one told me paul simon did a solo acoustic tour in 1984? just found a recording, sounds amazing. great set list, cool reworkings of the songs.

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Christgau loves it – his first A for a Simon record since Graceland.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

A Bigger Bang was better than Surprise.

OTM. "A Bigger Bag" is pretty good! "Surprise" was super dull, especially considering the Eno imprimatur and compared to the underrated "You're the One."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW, I don't know if there's a thread for this, but what's up with Jewish songwriters like Simon, Leonard Cohen and Dylan (even pre-Christianity) invoking lots of Christian imagery?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

you know all the best Christmas songs? written by Jews

in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I read one reviewer here compare the new album to "Heart and Bones". This is obviously not at all true though, because what made "Hearts and Bones" so special was all the ballads, and the new album doesn't have ballads at all.

It is not at all bad, but it is now about time Paul Simon put away all that annoying percussion forever and go back to all those Rhodes-tinged ballads he was so great at until and including "Hearts and Bones". Those are the ones that represents Simon at his best and most musically sophisticated.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

sb

in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

annoying percussion forever

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

still hongro after all these years

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a ballad called "Dazzling Blue" which evokes "Hearts and Bones," but Geir, I guess, missed it because the tabla confused him into thinking he was listening to a George Harrison or Kula Shaker recod.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda mostly loving everything abt this rec

bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

'questions for the angels' is on some dreamy vdparks song cycle ish

bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

An inability to fall asleep in a cheap motel due to the loud sex that a couple is having next door sends Duncan off on a long reverie.

^^Underrated Gear! ILE thread title

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 December 2023 02:32 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

I hope this Grammy weekend tribute to Paul Simon at the Troubadour was recorded.

Setlist:
Blind Boys of Alabama, “Loves Me Like a Rock”

Jason Isbell and Sadler Vaden, “Kodachrome”

Molly Tuttle and Ketch Secor, “Mrs. Robinson”

Natalie Lafourcade, “You’re the One”

Bobby Rush, “50 Ways to Leave Your Lover”

Ruthie Foster, “Slip Slidin’ Away”

John Vincent III, “The Only Living Boy in New York City”

Brett Dennen, “Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard”

Larkin Poe, “Paranoid Blues”

Susanna Hoffs with Grace Bowers, “Hazy Shade of Winter”

Gaby Moreno, “Late in the Evening”

Silvana Estrada, “El Condor Pasa (If I Could)”

Sean and Sara Watkins, “Hurricane Eye”

Madison Cunningham, “Kathy’s Song”

Andrew Bird and Alan Hampton, “American Tune”

Johnnyswim, “Rene and Georgette Magritte With Their Dog After the War”

Marcus King, “America”

Allison Russell, “The Sound of Silence”

Dwight Yoakam, “The Boxer”

Jackson Browne, “I Am a Rock”

Rufus Wainwright, “Bridge Over Troubled Water”

Rodney Crowell, “Graceland”

Finale, “You Can Call Me Al”

Part two:

“Bridge Over Troubled Water” from the @theTroubadour for @AmericanaFest’s pre-Grammy salute to “The Songs of Paul Simon” pic.twitter.com/yx9QqZiw9E

— Rufus Wainwright (@rufuswainwright) February 6, 2024

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:42 (two months ago) link

Jason Isbell and Sadler Vaden, “Kodachrome”

Fitting, as Patterson Hood's dad plays bass on the original!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link

That's a great lineup. Would have loved to see that last 6 song stretch in particular.

Indexed, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:39 (two months ago) link

Rufus oh wow! <3

brimstead, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link

John Vincent III, “The Only Living Boy in New York City, New York, 10003, USA”

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:26 (two months ago) link

no rhythm of the saints appreciators among the bunch, apparently -- not my people!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:29 (two months ago) link

(Yeah, I thought ‘City’ sounded odd at the end of that title, wondered if I remembered it wrong, but that’s from Variety.)

paisley got boring (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:36 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone have MGM+?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/15/entertainment/paul-simon-restless-dreams-review/index.html

Indexed, Friday, 15 March 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link

The Paul Simon doc, IN RESTLESS DREAMS, is remarkable. I remember before going to work at the mill when I was 18, putting a quarter in the juke and playing "I Am a Rock" and "April Come She Will." Made another 8-hour shift more bearable.

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) March 29, 2024

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 29 March 2024 00:53 (three weeks ago) link

really want to see the doc!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 01:26 (three weeks ago) link


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