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My feelings were about to get hurt for a second.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry about that

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

Haha jesus christ you are the biggest crybaby when your threads get derailed, I'm sure everyone else on the board LOVES it when you do the same to their threads? WTF, I hate your damn computer 99% of the time, sorry. I had the same question about this Garage Band thing though, because besides the creepy software bundle name it basically looked the same as the rest of the software I've looked at that does similar things.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:54 (twenty years ago) link

T/S: "Derailment of a perfectly good Apple thread via your lame comic books" vs. "Derailment of a perfectly good Apple thread via your lame relationship problems"

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

so is garageband:soundtrack::imove:fcp?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

I mean imovie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Granted, I haven't used Garage Band or Soundtrack ... but from what I can tell, they look way more similar than iMovie and FCP are.

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

revised:

garage band:soundtrack::final cut express:final cut pro?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I believe so. Or even GB:ST :: Adobe Premiere : Final Cut Pro perhaps? ONLY TIME SHALL TELL.

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

garage band appears to be soundtrack lite plus logic audio lite

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

more extensive notes on garage band forthcoming as I have just put down my $53.00

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 06:59 (twenty years ago) link

I got it yesterday. Obv I have other things to do than play around with it all day but so far it seems really easy to use and quite functional. Soon enough I will try to input some of my own loops and edit away, but the sequencer functions are decent and it syncs really well with the cheap controller keyboard I have (m-audio oxygen8). I would say it's really easy to grasp intuitively interface-wise but then again I play with all sorts of fucked up software for a living and am kind of skewed in that regard.

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

Obviously I have better things to do than buy this... etc ad nauseum

― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah the 53 bucks with shipping and handling is fucking killing me already

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

I wanna try this! tom, please keep us appraised!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

I got iLife yesterday, too.

FUCKING IDVD4 PROMPTLY FUCKING CRASHED WHEN ENCODING A DVD.

I had major problems with iDVD3. It took me hours and dozens of restarts in order to be able to burn a DVD and once I burned it I had artifacts all over the place. It was fucking unusable. And I'm on a dual 2hz G5!

Panther has been a horrible upgrade for me, and I tend to blame it on G5 technology being so new. I get kernel panics at least once a week, etc. Very annoying. I never had one kernel panic ever with my old G4 and Panther.

iPhoto is seriously faster though. Final Cut Express 2 is faster as well and is optimized for my dual G5 which is awesome. Garageband is better than Soundtrack, methinks.

― don weiner, Saturday, 17 January 2004 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

ME is not pronounced as the word "Me", it is pronounced as an acronym, M-E

This makes no sense. The definition of an acronym is an abbreviation made from intital letters that is pronounced as a word. So AIDS is an acronym, IRS is not.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

don, there should be a update in a week or so with new bits, possibly even kernel compiled with IBM's new compiler rather than gcc. Things should get better

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

hey don, why do you prefer garageband?

(can you tell I'm trying to convince myself to buy ilife?)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

FUCKING IDVD4 PROMPTLY FUCKING CRASHED WHEN ENCODING A DVD.

DVDSP!!!!!

― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

I just ordered mine today. Oh, sweet sweet liddle baby 12" mactop. What shall I call it? I want to call it Percy because it will fit in my purse, and I will punnish it with my palms. Heh.

Oh, UPS, speed my baby to me!

― the river fleet, Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

I have played with recording vocals through the built-in microphone and with the software instrument editing functions as well as the built-in software effects. Conclusion: This region editor will take a little getting used to but it's not bad at all. Also I need more effects. And it crashed when I tried to edit some dynamics processor settings and play back the audio at the same time but big surprise, I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to be doing those things at the same time anyway.

Recording and chopping up the vocals was frighteningly easy. If I were inclined to make funhater indie artowank shit with crap drumbeats I'd have an album out by midnight. That brings up another point, the drum kits are kind of crap (predictable coming from me) and no fussing with the compression and overdrive settings thus far has resolved the issue.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

My understanding is that you must add effects to entire tracks, not just to parts of tracks. Is this true?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

That's not quite the most comprehensible thing I've ever said I don't think.
Summarized:

1. built-in effects surprisingly good
2. vocals through laptop microphone scarily decent-sounding
3. built-in synth editor also suprisingly effective and rather simple
4. Sequencer needs work and lots of it (WHERE IS MY SHUFFLE KNOB FAGTOGS)
5. Drumkits and included breakbeats all shit
6. Have yet to import any of my own samples but watch this space (see 5 above)

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

Chris: Yes, but you can grab a chunk of audio from a track, chop it in the editor and drag it to another 'real instrument' track and it can be effected separately. It's not difficult at all, the hardest part like with most Apple things lately is that there's no manual and it's so simple that at first it's hard to grasp. See: Ally and I trying to figure out how to turn up the volume on my iPod for like half an hour.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

thanks for the update tom! I am getting closer and closer to buying this thing every day!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

(xpost: I had the exact same ipod problem!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

It sounds like it isn't really what I am looking for. But it might be around 2.0 or 3.0.

I spent the first few days with my iPod hoping that there were all kinda of feautres I couldn't find. I still want some programmable function keys, dammit.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

ive fiddled Gband a little with it and my main problems are the low max limit of FX per track and no VST plugin support. a graphical EQ display would be nice too and a way to create your own sampled instruments/drumkits would be lovely. that's a lot to ask for i guess but really it's not bad at all.

― scissors (Honda), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

I want this too.

― the Eskibox (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

me too. thx fr the update tom.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Dastoor: I hate you.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

If you want to make super-goofy Harthouse 1996-era trance this thing will get you sorted out in about 10 minutes (just like every other software studio ever written. hooray.)

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

FOOKING IDVD4 WON'T BURN DVDS (at least on my computer, which is the best damn model Apple makes and is loaded to the hilt with toys.) I'm ready to kill Apple over this, BTW.

The rest of iLife 4 is great. GarageBand is very, very serviceable. I mean really, for $49 you can't expect killer drums...is it just me or are drums THE hardest thing to put into a computer application and get a killer result?

― don weiner, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

Do audio units work in Garage Band, Tom?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

Where is my precious? I wants it, I wants it, I wants it! Nasty UPS to keep my precious from me!

― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

Ed: Yes.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

Do you have jack. Plug anything into anything, musician mates are raving about it.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

In the next two weeks I will be buying:

airport extreme base station
airport extreme card
512 megs ram for my ibook
new ibook battery
lacie external hard drive

are there deals/combos/anything like that anywhere???

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

Why waste money of the airport extreme base station you can get any number much cheaper 802.11g base stations. Less elegant, less easy to configure but still cheaper.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

The Airport still has the built-in modem for dialup connections.

Y4nc3y, my advice to you is to find a job working for the government or educational institution of some sort. Failing that, enroll in a school. Also if you order online have it delivered to an address in a state that has no Apple Store, to save on sales tax.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

i'm going airport cuz my roommates are gonna use it too and they want the whole shebang. also: i need airport for a work trip to miami in a month or so.

tom! u r OTM. my moms works for a college, so maybe i'll see if she can order for me. dunno why i didn't think of that.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

There's a state with no Apple Store?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

how much do those new ibook batteries cost? and are they worth buying (ie why buy one?). plus: how much are those lacie external hard-drives?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

ibook battery = $130 US (i need one cuz mine died in four months)
200 gig lacie hard drive = $250ish US

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

ouch.

if i buy a new battery will it extend my life?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

yes

how long have you had your battery?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

yes, you will live at least until yr aged 128

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

um. well i've had it as long as i've had the comp. which is a reconditioned ibook g3 600mhz, 540mb ram running panther. and i reckon i get abt 1hr 15 out of the battery unplugged. : /

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

i've had the comp since last june but as i say it's reconditioned - so the comp is older obv.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

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