Taking Sides: Mayhem v. Burzum

Euronymous vs. Varg Vikernes?
Fake evil vs. true evil?

if it is fake evil vs. true evil obviously i am going to have to go with true.

but tho i have heard so little mayhem (deathcrush and the live album), they are totally way better than burzum musically i would say. they write real songs that are listenable, rather than epic, moody statements, like all burzum albums.

Black metal=fake evil
Murder and nazi sympathies=true evil

(Hopefully most black metal fans prefer the former)

were the posters really random googlers or just moley?

Musically speaking, was Count Grisnakh of Burzum right to murder Euronymous of Mayhem?

when dirty vicar is on form, he's first rate

Wasn't there a group that insisted a gypsy foretold that Euronymous had plans to kill Varg, making the killing "self-defense". lols

wow, this thread.

Mayhem's first record is pretty good, no?

De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is the classic, I have a soft spot for Deathcrush but it's a flawed fuggin' thing.

lol

http://www.thatsnotmetal.com/2012/03/news-that-matters-paint-norwegian.html

An airline in Norway, mysteriously named Norwegian Air Shuttle, is holding a vote online for people to choose their favorite popular Norwegian individual of cultural or historical importance. The person who gets the most votes will have their image immortalized on the tails of the airplanes to celebrate the company's 10th anniversary. Here's the company's description of the contest if you'd like more information:

"Her kan du blant annet stemme på en av kandidatene som en lokal nominasjonskomite bestående av: Fabian Stang (ordfører), Hans Edvardsen (Bymiljøetaten) og Lars Emil Hansen (Oslo Museum) har nominert. Komitemedlemmene er håndplukket basert på deres lokalkunnskap og engasjement. Se nedover på siden for flere nominerte kandidater. De fem kandidatene med flest stemmer etter at nominasjonsfasen er over, går videre til det endelige valget. Du kan avgi én stemme hver dag i hele nominasjonsfasen som varer frem til 28. mars kl. 23.59."

The late Øystein Aarseth, or as we all knew him, Euronymous of Mayhem, somehow made it onto the polls. The article I read about this on Gun Shy Assassin was posted two days ago, and at the time of that writing, Aarseth was in a bleak 23rd. At the time of this writing, he made it all the way to 5th place. The progress is staggering, and I want this to happen so bad now that I can taste the goat's blood.

To cast your vote, click http://www.halehelter.no/. The website isn't in English

lol make this happen

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gJTlI22JcCA/T24lDBWYP7I/AAAAAAAAAso/gxSkBysmvvI/s1600/19994.jpg

just click the heart to vote

Hah he's already in first place.

EURONYMOOSE

When it's cold

And when it's dark

Norwegian Air

Will express you

when they refuse to use it, metal press will make a fuss and national mainstream media will catch on and = free publicity.

Although you never know in Norway, they might put him on it, lol.

call me uninformed (which i am), but mayhem Live in Leipzig is way more METAL than what I have heard of Burzum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id9FarV4Rv8

I know barely anything about metal, but have listened to some first wave norwegian black metal stuff out of curiosity. From that standpoint, I think Burzum is better, or at least more accessible. Jesu Tod just rocks so fucking hard... It's not even eerie demonic sounding to me. Filosofem in general is really "cinematic" and I think anyone can appreciate it basically.

http://pitchfork.com/advance/451-esoteric-warfare/

^ new mayhem

mayhem was the shittiest of the early black metal bands in the norwegian scene and even though they have hell hammer they still sucked, BUT they now are a very good example of black metal. varg however has always been the leader in the movement, his albums (even his newer ones) are a shining example of what the true ideology of black metal is and was and should still be today. but now you have poloshed commercial crap like cradle of filth and dimmu borgir, or whatever the fuck they are called have diluted the scene with thier bubblegum pinkmetal. varg is and was a visionary, he is perhaps the best most talented blackmetal musician out there next to ihsahn of course. so therefore i would have to take the side of varg.
― azur gungnir, Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Live in Leipzig is so fucking good

Also Esoteric Warfare is pretty good.

heh, this thread

If you can get past the edgy cover photo, Dawn of the Black Hearts actually sounds better than Leipzig--rawer but more bottom end and way less sterile. (Audience recording rather than straight through the soundboard.) That version of Freezing Moon sounds so unbelievably malefic.

Post-Euronymous Mayhem should go away.

To the person who said Burzum must die because of the law of the Talon, or the Satanist Law, is full of shit. If Euro was not accident prone, and a threat to Varg, Then it never would have happened. Varg simply took the opportunity that any of us would take. To rid ourselves of an enemy. I do support Burzum Musically, and I have heard his own mother say that he has dropped all contact with these Neo-Nazi Organizations. So, if its true, more power to him. I do not support racism, but I do support stratification. The Stronger person individually shall overcome. This doesnt just mean physically. How many members are there in Mayhem? How many in Burzum? The point is, is that a man that can create this beautiful haunting music by himself, is talented.

Post-Euronymous Mayhem should go away.

oh, you

Acting entitled about bands we like is sort of an arrogant internet thing and I try to avoid it but this band's early stuff is special to me, I can't help it. I just don't feel any spirit in any of the new stuff. Hellhammer (or whoever does his triggers) after the mid 90s might have the worst drum sound in metal :/

Got tix for DMDS at St Vitus next month. Expecting insanity.

Mayhem is the answer btw, pretty easily

i'm going to ATL in Feb to see that - $12 on Megabus round trip.

was supposed to see this same set at MDF and got drunk and missed it

I do love the way this thread is periodically googled by mentalists.

― DV (dirtyvicar),

registration killed off the random mentalist googler. Same happened to the dmb thread

that aforementioned set ruled btw

If Count is a nazi, so what? real bm means destruction and if you can't cope with that then you're in the wrong place.

― doesitmatter, Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:49 AM (fifteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Love this thread so much.

Had no idea a former Bathory member was directing this. Varg might not be happy with this portrayal by the sounds of it.
https://www.blackgate.com/2018/09/26/fantasia-2018-day-22-part-5-lords-of-chaos/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjfyfNAIAcA

holy shit this rules, i wish i had caught this tour

^it was pretty killer. I will say I never was in a more dangerous pit, though, the first time I saw Mayhem and they played "Deathcrush". it outright scared me the viciousness, it wasn't like, malevolent, but people were just jerkin' an berzerkin'

For a movie about metal, Lords of Chaos has zero energy. The Motley Crue biopic was more exciting.

I liked it, mainly for the aesthetics but for a movie that is clearly made by people who love metal it’s surprisingly uncommitted to the story. I watched it last year back to back with Straight Outta Compton which does completely buy into their whole mythos and is a much more entertaining movie for it. Also, that’s a movie about music with crazy/violent personal feuds as background, Lords Of Chaos is the exact opposite.

I mean, kids do stupid/violent things to each other, blow up stuff and try to give the establishment a kick in the balls, all over the world, all the time - that’s not very interesting in itself. In the end, the only thing that made any of these guys worthy of making a movie about is that their music got famous all over the world.

those live boots Peaceville put out last year for Mayhem are fuckin' terrible. idk why I am surprised though. one of them is just Dawn of the Black Hearts show without the brains cover