Defend Phil Collins

Meryl Streep?

Dir. by Todd Haynes

Tonight...

Tagline: He didn't see it coming.

as a sidenote: the covers album has been a surprise commercial success (what else is new). Following in the footsteps of McDonald, Stewart, etc, yawn.

Easy Lover will get pretty much any party going.

As does his cover of "You Can't Hurry Love."

I agree it isn't exactly the most original idea, but he does it great, with respect to the originals. His somewhat smoother versions of Stevie Wonder ballads from the 70s are not quite up there with the 60s covers though.
Still, his best album since "...But Seriously..." so the success is deserved.

xpost true, true. but is it more likely to deliver the dance than the diana ross version? i guess the phil version would be more likely to have the lads dancing around too..

They aren't really all that different from each other, are they? Except one has a male singer and the other one has a female one, but I guess the voice singing isn't the most important aspect when it comes to dancefloor appeal.

Aw...

http://www.philcollins-fr.com/Discographie/albums/12goingback.jpg

*murders phil collins in some hotel bedroom*

"I don't want to sound like a weirdo. I'm not Shirley MacLaine..."

Eh?

I think his voice sounds weird these days as he drops all the songs' keys by a whole tone or so he doesn't physically capsize. Did so on the recent-ish Genesis tour. Saw him do the Motown covers on the telly, he barely had to break a sweat.

phil looks weirdly similar to a hitler jugend drummer boy there...

From the past, Phil Collins responds to all criticism upthread and elsewhere:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_UDIwZAxomYk/TFQjyiRXmJI/AAAAAAAAAr8/Sbf4ixLhpqg/61-phil-collins-balding-02.jpg

shake that tambourine

"In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you"

TPL does Face Value: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/phil-collins-face-value.html

That was great! Worth mentioning that the use of the EWF horns was "controversial," especially in the UK, for making Phil sound too "black." Which is why some of this stuff didn't make it onto Genesis albums, but post success, why the EWF horns return for "Abacab."

Made the most unreligious song about Jesus ever?

Wow, never heard his "Tomorrow Never Knows" before; it works amazingly well. Great piece, Marcello.

That was great! Worth mentioning that the use of the EWF horns was "controversial," especially in the UK, for making Phil sound too "black."

Who was it controversial with?

Rockist critics and fans.

Racist you mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pTcO4IzhuI

such a great and strange piece of music in which phil goes all philip glass on us

That first album has all kinds of cool, weird shit.

"take me home" = underrated great song
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, October 7, 2003 12:37 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Take Me Home" - yes, a pretty spiffy song.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, October 7, 2003 10:45 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

per the Miami Vice argument upthread, Phil actually had a song on the Miami Vice 2 sdtrk, one of his best solo songs, 'Take Me Home.' fcking great tune.

― the table is the table, Friday, August 24, 2007 10:01 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't remember Take Me Home

oh wait

cuz you don't remember!

That first album has all kinds of cool, weird shit.

This is true. Hand In Hand is another one.

I love the delicate little ballad "This Must Be Love," especially the bongos and bass.

That song is *very* John Martyn-esque imo. Weren't they living together at that point or something?

"take me home" and "against all odds" are all-time

That photo Ned posted above is the greatest thing ever.

xpost Dunno how Phil and john Martyn became friends, but Phil was essentially to getting Martyn off the sauce, and they remained close friends until his death.

I'm sure I've said it upthread, but I'm happy to defend pretty much everything he did up through and including most of "No Jacket Required" and "Invisible Touch," side-gigs (on albums, on stage) included. Then it gets pretty shaky.

Might have this wrong but i think they really bonded while going through simultaneous divorces.

I like all the love shown to the album tracks off Face Value. The two instrumental numbers are great and "I'm Not Moving" is another standout for me; a real funky, bouncing number which sounds like some early 80s sitcom theme, yet hides some fairly desperate lyrics.

Might have this wrong but i think they really bonded while going through simultaneous divorces.

"Women. Amirite?"

that's the side of Phil that I mostly don't like tbh, the obvious bitter break-up songs, 'I Don't Care Anymore' etc

Apparently it was a very bitter divorce.

It certainly was; it spawned enough material for two albums (also "Against All Odds", which was apparently a Face Value outtake). I've never really listened to Hello, I Must Be Going! though, is it as good as the debut?

It's got a few good'ns!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jmc6TZ5Guw#t=170

Wow, youtube wormhole entered!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labtqRPg9jk

Oh man, I'm gonna make it a Frida Friday. Thanks Josh.

fabulous pants!

Over the holidays I asked my sister if she wanted to hear my Phil Collins impression, and then I just yelled 'TONITE!'

She thought it was pretty funny. I could have used a gated snare drum, though.

Oh, and in defense of Phil: A Trick of the Tail; Down and Out; Most of ABACAB; I'm Not Leaving; Easy Lover with Philip Bailey; Two Hearts, from the movie Buster.

i'm not moving anywhere!