These New Puritans

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I'm very, very glad at the absence of metal guitars.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:35 (eight years ago) link

^ see the last paragraph of Dorian's piece linked above

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:36 (eight years ago) link

But yeah, I could see how they might work in a Young Gods or Tricky 'Black Steel' way.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:38 (eight years ago) link

There are just a couple of drops that could use a bit more oomph, and some nice crunchy guitars would do it for me.

A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:39 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Man I really slept on this record this year. Amazing stuff, it's like Mezzanine-era Massive Attack meets Nine Inch Nails meets MIA meets Benjamin Britten meets a really half-arsed singer.

Actually, the vocals are fine if you think of them as imitation 3D or Karl Hyde or someone. But yeah, kind of stunned that anyone would even try and make an album like this, let alone pull it off.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:10 (eight years ago) link

Also I would like to hear Dan Perry's opinion on this.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:12 (eight years ago) link

I have a favorable bias towards this album but get quickly bored whenever something comes up on shuffle on the ipod - I guess that might not be the best way to get into it.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:20 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I can imagine it wouldn't sound too great popping up between Tensnake and Nicki Minaj but that's the same with most dark, album-oriented rock music.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:25 (eight years ago) link

So are they the reason The Fall left Domino?

Mark G, Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:28 (eight years ago) link

I am massively intrigued by your description and would like to subscribe to your newsletter

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:31 (eight years ago) link

These are the last two singles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vasNDS9BXJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suLfDbNHw7c

There's various live stuff on Youtube too, but I don't think that stuff translates as well.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 25 November 2010 22:10 (eight years ago) link

I've listened to the first 4 tracks on this now and HOLY SHIT

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 29 November 2010 19:59 (eight years ago) link

well that took long enough!

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:54 (eight years ago) link

I'm really not sure what to make of this on my first listen, really surprised the NME made it album of the year.

Did anyone notice the first thirty seconds of Fire-Power sound very similar to Scritlocks Door by Scritti Politti? especially the vocals.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:38 (eight years ago) link

I've tried fairly hard to get into this because I like artists who try and do something different, but I can't really. Not to say it's bad, just probably not for me.

A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:52 (eight years ago) link

idg this album at *all* apart from the big single, as I've said

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:46 (eight years ago) link

that's because you're crazy

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:12 (eight years ago) link

Indeed. I don't understand how you can love We Want War and not get the rest. It's all of a piece.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:14 (eight years ago) link

It's mostly not that different from the big single so you're probably going on some weird Hongroesque ideological stance about song length or number of sections, right?

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:14 (eight years ago) link

It's totally song length snobbishness, considering that the most immediately involving song on the album to my ears is "Three Thousand".

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:17 (eight years ago) link

hmm

maybe listening to the individual songs on Youtube isn't the best way to approach this record

although stuff like 'attack music' and 'hologram' and 'fire-power' doesn't grab me

we want war just has a way cooler build and narrative flow, plus the choral and woodwind chord-progressions in the second half are staggering

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:19 (eight years ago) link

try maybe listening to the album before announcing that the entire thing is terrible...?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:19 (eight years ago) link

it totally ISN'T song-length snobbishness, although there's a possibility that what they're trying to do is best served by a lengthier canvas - all about subtle shifts and increments

Dan the thing is that I have listened to all the songs! Just not in order

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:20 (eight years ago) link

If there's one thing this album ISN'T about it's subtlety.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:21 (eight years ago) link

well, there's something that seems sophisticated and fully worked-out about WWW, especially in the chord-sequences and sonic layering, that lacks in the other songs - maybe I'll come round to them

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:24 (eight years ago) link

lol

I decided to check out earlier stuff by them and was repelled by the first 10 seconds of "Elvis", after which it suddenly became incredibly compelling

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:25 (eight years ago) link

I mean, at least The Horrors had the decency to follow up their staggering epic 'wait this isn't that scrawny buncha garagey tryhards' preview single with an album that kinda lived up to it

haha ok I'll stop now

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:27 (eight years ago) link

no you won't

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:27 (eight years ago) link

don't get you can you like "we want war" and not "drum courts"

kamerad, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:29 (eight years ago) link

ok yeah who's 2011's breakout indie-gone-classy band gonna be, dibs on Two Door Cinema Club

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:29 (eight years ago) link

there's a distinct sense of nerdiness to this band...or maybe it's that it's ambitious in a really transparent way, like they're just forcing together all these elements and it doesn't quite work for me.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:34 (eight years ago) link

not a big fan of the album as a whole either, it's kind of monotonous and cold and humorless. sounds like liars without the elements of fun and chaos. i do like "we want war."

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:35 (eight years ago) link

i'm a sucker for the great reich-ian art/prog rock jams on this album, like "5," which even has what sounds like an oboe or two

kamerad, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:36 (eight years ago) link

monotonous and cold and humorless

A massive selling point! (Well, for me.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:37 (eight years ago) link

This is a really creative album and I'm happy it's getting some love in the UK

PEAVEY Ó))) (Ówen P.), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:41 (eight years ago) link

Ned, have you investigated this yet?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:43 (eight years ago) link

i'm a sucker for the great reich-ian art/prog rock jams on this album, like "5," which even has what sounds like an oboe or two

well, "5" is really good as well. but the rest can hang.

― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:36 (4 months ago)

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Its undoubted creativity is what's making me sad that it's not clicking for me. I'd like to explore its nuances, but that would involve actually listening to it.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:44 (eight years ago) link

NickB: Not the full album but the singles = A+. Planning on snagging it later this month but right now the backlog of stuff to work through sits next to my desk and mocks me...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Oh okay. Wasn't sure how much you were aware that this was a Graham Sutton production.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Believe me, that is a further selling point.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:47 (eight years ago) link

If this album wasn't so relentlessly monochromatic, I would not be nearly as into it.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Fire-Power was the standout to me ofl.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:28 (eight years ago) link

So much Brit press love now. This American wasn't as hip as the ones above on this thread to know about these guys till now.

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Just missed out on a Pitchfork BNM, didn't turn up in the Mercurys at all. Rough treatment imo.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:14 (eight years ago) link

how can you "just miss out" on a BNM?

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:19 (eight years ago) link

High score, but just below the threshold for BNM?

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:20 (eight years ago) link

Isn't it ratings based? Like, 8.5 and up = BNM?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:20 (eight years ago) link

It got like an 8.4 in the same week as the Liars got an 8.6 iirc (just remember ilxor mentioning this at the time). Might be why it went under the radar for so long.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:21 (eight years ago) link

seriously though, this is the type of music I hear in my head

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Also cosign on We Want War and V (Island Song) being the grand realisations of TNP, although I'd maybe add Nothing Else in its own quiet monumental way

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:19 (three months ago) link

huh I had no idea that was out already

Just released this past Friday AFAIK

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 20:28 (three months ago) link

Tracks two, three and four are all quite tonally similar to the opener, which makes me feel like the album is quite samey; whereas FoR moves around a lot in the opening four tracks. I also think Fragment 2 is incredibly strong - as good as V - and nothing on ITR has a riff as strong as that.

Once you get to The Trees Are On Fire things change up; that track isn’t what I was expecting, and is stronger for it.

It doesn’t meander aimlessly as much as the middle of FoR though, which loses me for long stretches either side of Organ Eternal.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:18 (three months ago) link

Six is beautiful, and actually does remind me of late-period Talk Talk.

The first four tracks lack orienting moments for me, so far.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:22 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've been really enjoying this ever since the release. Does anyone know if Jack has had some vocal lessons/training? His vocals sound much better and stronger than on previous albums.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:48 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Late to party but I don't hate his singing this time around and there's less clumsy late Talk Talk worship therefore This Is Good.

pomenitul, Saturday, 18 May 2019 16:36 (two months ago) link


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