― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 6 March 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Don King, Thursday, 6 March 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
I am not saying I dismiss all music from that era (for instance, Crowded House and Jellyfish made their best records then)
But out of the ones you mention Primal Scream, and to some extent Massive Attack, are the only ones I like. Generally the 87-91 era was too much about rhythm and noise and not enough about melody and harmony.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 March 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Dodgy never changed their musical style. Blur did. Blur more or less "invented" Britpop on "Modern Life Is Rubbish" (although Suede should get some credit for that too)
As for Pulp, well, maybe they weren't really Britpop. In fact, they were just playing the kind of Bowie/Roxy Music-influenced style that was so popular when they started out in the mid 80s, and for some reason they never broke through until that kind of music became fashionable again because of Britpop.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
Someone may already have asked this but do you tap your foot or nod your head at all when you listen to music? If so, why?
― David (David), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
(I am playing find the unconvincing, hastily concocted pseudonym)
― Ferg (Ferg), Thursday, 6 March 2003 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
Your definition of what was "really happening" in the mid-90s couldn't be any more Britpop if it tried...
― Venga, Friday, 7 March 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnell schnell, Friday, 7 March 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
'87-'91 was for me the most exciting time for music in my lifetime in terms of innovation and experimentation, perhaps not so much melody and harmony and quality MOR/AOR (tcha, big loss eh?). Geir's conviction that melody and harmony are automatically superior to rhythm and noise by definition do not match my own views obviously.
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
the way the big dance-based acts are attached to the Britpop concept is irritating, partly for me because i felt it was very much a 'them and us' conflict that prevailed throughout most of the 90s i.e. there were indie kids and there were ravers and never the twain shall meet, until the Chemical Brothers broke thru i guess. it was good that the likes of Tom n' Ed broke down that pathetic barrier but it always felt like it was more a case of the rockist indiekids finally starting to 'get' dance music rather than ravers discovering guitars (dare i say the dance fans were that bit more open-minded, given they were into what was genuinely a new thing? i would but its a horrendous generalisation on both counts)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
Balls. That whole rock/dance thing was dead and buried by 92 - I remember bumping into loads of the britpop lot on the Brighton scene in '91 - and going to Trance Europe Express a bit later. The line was totally blurred - especially as britpop came out of Sarah, to some extent, and most of the Sarah fandom were loved up by the turn of the '90s (at least round my way).
― Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Vagina Wolf, Friday, 23 July 2004 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― purple patch (electricsound), Friday, 23 July 2004 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link
the tone seemed weirdly spiteful, beyond all other considerations.
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Is it the geyser who played guitar for Motorhead?
If so, he looks to me as if the requirements of his lifestyle actually require extremely substantial subsidy.
http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/images/motorhead_wurzel.jpg
Albeit briefly.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I clicked on the link, but I couldn't be arsed to read the article, I'm afraid.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link
haha, pash, i didn't actually read it either!
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link
What did they make of the latest Sleater-Kinney album?
(xxxx-post)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I can't really think of anything to say about it, though.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Hahahahahaha
The drummer from dodgy just complained about being grouped in with Menswear and Sleeper. Hahahahahaha
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link
oof, haha.
that athlete single, as mentioned at the end of the harris piece, ir really fucking bad.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link
'At the end of the day it's just whether it was good music'
The drummer from dodgy is a rockist!
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought that myself.
Well, that and the fact that the EQ's absolutely dreadful.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 08:58 (eighteen years ago) link
(x-post)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link
From the youngsters who've just learned to shave to the oldsters raving on their graves it's the same old story, England's glory, claiming back the union jack, my arse!
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Far more so that I was of Menswear or Sleeper anyway.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post - the shame of admitting it, but that "water under the bridge" tune they did was pretty nice IIRC.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link
8:30 pm The Britpop Story
John Harris charts the rise of Britpop, its brief romance with New Labour, the emergence of the 'new lad' culture, and the legacy Britpop has left behind.
9:00 pm Britpop Now
Damon Albarn presents a compilation of live performances from Britpop acts originally recorded on 16 August 1995, including Blur, Supergrass, Elastica and Menswear.
9:45 pm Live Forever: Storyville
Live Forever charts the sounds that defined the real mood of the 90s, offering an alternative history of the period and a more intriguing vision of Britain and its music. Strong language. [S]
11:10 pm Pulp: No Sleep Till Sheffield
In 1995, the BBC followed Jarvis Cocker and Pulp as they charmed their way around Britain, having finally become popular after many years of trying.
11:45 pm The Britpop Story
12:15 am Later: Stanley Road Revisited
Ten years on, Paul Weller reflects on what he considers the high point of his solo career, the million-selling Stanley Road album. Strong language. [S].
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link