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we are going to PKs here people

avinha, Saturday, 6 November 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Having the cameraman actually walk on and stand behind the kicker is a great idea, I'd never seen that before.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 6 November 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

It makes it look so much more difficult - can see more why players bottle it now.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 6 November 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope i'm wrong but i can't see any of 5-8 upsetting 1-4

i would just like to point out that i have been off the mark in this thread

avinha, Sunday, 7 November 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah lol MLS playoffs afaik

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Sunday, 7 November 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

kind of feel like the most important upset isn't going to happen tomorrow

avinha, Sunday, 7 November 2010 07:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Pele Buddle

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

man Seattle look like they don't give a fuuuck

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

shittyass shit team, no will, so clearly *worse* than la in every facet

who did harkes do that terrible accent of, the guy in drew carey's box?

avinha, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

the guy in drew carey's box

sorry

avinha, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Eric Idle

Gukbe, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

v v pretty imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uddKZwybzYo

avinha, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't understand why Fernandez isn't playing for Seattle, isn't he one of their best players?

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oh there he is

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

someone thought nyassi would exploit the wing better. yeah

ah fuck, ya never wanna see that.

avinha, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

so then

Colorado v. SJ
LA v. Dallas

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

an LA v. SJ final would be huge... if it wasn't set to be in Toronto

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha. How'd you feel about deciding the title by playoffs rather than league table? I know it's standard practice in US sport, but its flaws are kind of obvious right now.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't really know how to feel about it. They've tried to make the regular season mean more with the Supporters' Shield winner (team w/ best record, the "real" championship most everywhere) being made eligible for the champions league. Now that only half the league makes the playoffs, and with the entry of more teams in the next few years, the race for the last couple playoff spots makes the regular season come down to the wire a lot more than even like 4-5 years ago where the top teams would coast through to the end of the season and the bottom feeders would give up.

But the East/West thing is confusing for a lot of people and a holdover from the NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL systems where there are 30+ teams in the leagues -- but in MLS Colorado is playing San Jose for the Eastern championship and a berth in the final. A few years ago New York was the (fluke) Western champions. So that's got to be fixed. Some of it is down to regionalism too. MLS doesn't have any teams in the southeast, and one thing you hear again and again from non-North-American players is the travel between games is a huge adjustment. So that plays into it as well.

IMO if the league can keep growing and survive with more teams, a divisional system based on regions (north, south, east, west) makes the most sense. If they hover at 20 teams for a while after Portland, Vancouver, Montreal, and the alleged 2nd New York team enter the league, a single table would make more sense. I'm not even going to talk about promotion and relegation because I don't think it will ever work here.

btw The Don says they're looking at changing the format: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/garber-we%E2%80%99re-looking-changing-playoff-format

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

then there's this:

Club,Sum of 2010 Guaranteed Compensation,% of total League Compensation
NY ,$15,666,639 ,22.10% out of playoffs
LA ,$10,978,594 ,15.50% still in playoffs
CHI,$5,559,104 ,7.80% didn't make playoffs
TFC ,$5,214,381 ,7.40% didn't make playoffs
SEA ,$3,118,104 ,4.40% out of playoffs
NE ,$2,983,033 ,4.20% didn't make playoffs
KC ,$2,945,107 ,4.20% didn't make playoffs
DAL ,$2,924,318 ,4.10% still in playoffs
PHI ,$2,886,400 ,4.10% didn't make playoffs
DC ,$2,881,530 ,4.10% didn't make playoffs
CLB ,$2,808,204 ,4.00% out of playoffs
COL ,$2,710,114 ,3.80% still in playoffs
RSL ,$2,645,722 ,3.70% out of playoffs
HOU ,$2,565,875 ,3.60% didn't make playoffs
SJ ,$2,518,590 ,3.60% still in playoffs
CHV ,$2,477,548 ,3.50% didn't make playoffs

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 8 November 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

GOALS! GOALS! GOALS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJrNKPHN48&feature=player_embedded

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

partial to angel's oddly just because thank fuck, someone plays to the whistle

sam acre, Thursday, 11 November 2010 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link

allegedly KC Wizards are changing their name to Sporting KC? lame-o

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

should take advantage of lucrative sponsorship tie-in and name themselves KFC imo

Gukbe, Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Toronto FC already has a lock on being called KFC

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope the Wizards don't change their name. They have the best name in professional sports, ffs!

The Porcupine Captain With A Crew of White Rabbits (Viceroy), Saturday, 13 November 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

better than the Washington Wizards?

mizzell, Saturday, 13 November 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

never forget

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/KansasCityWiz.png

mizzell, Saturday, 13 November 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

lol la

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 15 November 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm so happy to wave goodbye to the Galaxy. I know it would be good for the league for Becks and Landycakes to win but I find them both pretty unlikeable, and Landon's "Manning face" is a thing to behold.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 November 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I had a big long post typed going on about what this means in the grander scheme, but it basically comes down to Dallas being a better team than they seemed and Colorado being pretty lucky. Dallas *might* be qualified champions, but the Rapids ain't no matter how you spin it. LA will still be in CCL next year, and someone might care about their best regular-season record.

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 15 November 2010 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

so what does it say if Colorado beats Dallas then?

(pretty sure either way it'll be, "playoffs don't follow scripts")

HPSCHD, Monday, 15 November 2010 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

It says about the same thing as last year's final, except RSL were/are a better team than Colorado. I'm picking Dallas, though, unless it's super freezing cold in Toronto next weekend -- they have a lot of players from much warmer climes.

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Monday, 15 November 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Beckham looking Aslan-esque there

decent skinsmanship (Michael B), Monday, 15 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

league best 11

GK- Donovan Ricketts, D- Jamison Olave, D- Omar Gonzalez, D- Nat Borchers, M- David Ferreira, M- Dwayne DeRosario, M- Sebastien LeToux, M- Javier Morales, M- Landon Donovan, F- Edson Buddle, F- Chris Wondolowski

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

lot of teams playing 3-5-2 in MLS lol

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

with 5 attacking mids lolol

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

how good is gonzalez? will he be the first choice cb for the us?

mizzell, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure he'll get a good look. I've read he's too slow to deal with top forwards but a lot of guys are like that. Definitely a scoring threat too.

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Sportingkansascity.png

mizzell, Thursday, 18 November 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh

whats crazy is that a lot of these shitty MLS logos are just 90s-upped versions of what could be classy designs. like, why is that "3D" and not just a line drawing?

btw is there some central MLS design planning committee?

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

ffs this isn't team fortress 2

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Because in the absence of any kind of historic tradition or "classic" imaging to fall back on, all sports motifs ever are designed to PUMP! UP! 14-year olds.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I figure we just have to wait another 50-70 years until the imagery from now seems quaint and tasteful to future sports fans, some of whom will no doubt be horrified by whatever the commercial aesthetic is in 2070.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

xp That's what that Slate article argues, that they're bucking what history and tradition *does* exist in the name of "brand identity" and such.

I maintain that the Fire have one of the only truly classic logos in the league. DC's is pretty good, I have no real beef with TFC's or Philly either.

Also lolsome is apparently the KC prez left the door open for changing the name/crest back if it becomes even more obvious that the new one is a piece of shit.

fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Thursday, 18 November 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the chicago logo is def the best, hands down, and while i always thought the ~name~ was silly, the logo salvages it completely.

cf the mn wild logo, which is probably about as good as a Nu Wave design-by-committee logo can get (still not "classic", but acceptable)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Minnesota_Wild_alternate_logo.svg

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Thursday, 18 November 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

as pointed out in the slate article, abandoning this logo should be a crime:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/PortlandTimbers_OriginalNASLLogo.png

mizzell, Thursday, 18 November 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link


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