rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

fwiw i think 'country shit' is topically pretty generic -- like oh, you dig candy painted cars huh? and youre from the country? how novel.

hes def more an 'album artist' than 'singles artist' tho so i dont know why al's getting aggy about k.r.i.t. He also only has two tapes.

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Monday, November 1, 2010 7:48 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well obviously i was exaggerating a broader point that was not specifically about him, but yes, sorry i was so 'aggy'. i'm just saying like if the 'hook' for a guy like that is your tl;dr blog post that starts with a paragraph about T.I. then yeah i'd rather someone just say here listen to this song.

dude who wrote 50 paragraphs about loverman rap songs is calling my piece tldr

im enjoying your whiney-like celebration of ignorance for the sake of time saving

ignorance of a rapper whose biggest critical champion can reduce him to "sounds a lot like pimp c" is bliss

I think gorilla vs bear is his biggest kritical champion at this point

yeah im nowhere near its biggest critical champion???

like, even on this board

i thought you were the guy that plucked him from young buck's twitter and made him an internet cause célèbre?

i listened to, enjoyed, and wrote an essay based around his 1st mixtape before he had any coverage. i dont see how that = BECAME HIS BIGGEST CRITICAL CHAMPION

i also published a review of his album (that i dont think is tldr but who knows considering your hectic schedule) that you can read that gives him imo a pretty evenhanded critical look

fwiw, i like his deep stuff most but posted "county shit" cause people who are iffy about him all seem to love that song and bag on his deep shit. deej overstates his reliance on pimp c, which only really comes out when he is in "4 the sooouuuth"-banger mode, but he is otm that krit is much more of a albums artist than a singles artist. really a lot of what i like about him is his versatility, i don't think any one song can really do him justice.

for a different look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQxxcn7c3f4

OK, earliest champion, not biggest. and i shouldn't have said "tl;dr" when I really meant "the first 800 words of this piece aren't remotely about this guy at all, so that doesn't really compel me to listen to anything". thank you for helping me refine my point, it's really important that i not be inaccurate or mischaracterize you at all here, that would be terrible.

stop kvetching and just listen to his shit

"the first 800 words of this piece aren't remotely about this guy at all"

hey man, that's what pitchfork writers consider a "hard lede"

hey rev it wont work -- he went through the same spiel way back when we first started talking about k.r.i.t., i posted a couple songs at his request while he complained about having to download mixtapes before popping up months later to repeat the same shit

hey man, that's what pitchfork writers consider a "hard lede"

― OH AND ITS WAVVES (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, November 1, 2010 8:01 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the jokes here for the twitcritic are too too easy

yeah tbh i'm sorry for kinda repeating myself, but kev asked directly if i had listened to the guy

"no -- there was a piece that was about more than just the artist in question so i couldnt read it"

xpost, yeah it's pretty fucking hilarious how i like get to the point??

989)Big K.R.I.T. & DJ Breakem Off/The Last King: T.I.’s “What You Know” as Mississippi rapper’s “Blitzkrieg Bop.”#7

now Al never needs to hear a note

def should have spent 800 words leading up to that going, "USUALLY when you think of MISSISSIPPI you don't think of DOPE RAPPERS..."

gotta say, it's kinda depressing to hear two actual, working critics clowning on other critics for writing a thoughtful & analytic longform blog post

haha some dude is acting like we have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that dude is worth paying attention to while refusing to look at evidence

someone link me to the blog post so i can clown it based on it's merit instead of what some dude says

how the fuck did you even get involved in this argument except to be a rank asshole for no reason

^ new board desc

seriously tho

haha some dude is acting like we have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that dude is worth paying attention to while refusing to look at evidence

― The Reverend, Monday, November 1, 2010 9:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the thing is that i listen to like 50-100 local mixtapes and albums every year that i generally don't even talk about on this thread, and that kind of keeps my plate full, so when people just post youtubes without comment or write about something without getting to the point or seeming very enthusiastic yeah it's kind of hard to want to bother with it

imo a lot of ILM threads and especially this one took a huge nosedive as far as me being able to read or engage in them once just posting a youtube and going "this is dope" or whatever became a typical mode of posting

being able to acknowledge faults /= lack of enthusiasm + there has been plenty of commentary about krit here

really automatic youtube embeds are one of the worst things that has happened to ilx in general the last couple yearsxpost

yoooo what is going on

big krit is a good rapper...last king is better than his new one (also he has more than 2 tapes)...deej's blog post last year was cool...damn

how the fuck did you even get involved in this argument except to be a rank asshole for no reason

― crocodile swag district - teach me how to dundee (J0rdan S.), Monday, November 1, 2010 9:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im enjoying your whiney-like celebration of ignorance for the sake of time saving

― deej, Monday, November 1, 2010 8:29 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://members.shaw.ca/gfcameron/shots.jpg

really automatic youtube embeds are one of the worst things that has happened to ilx in general the last couple yearsxpost

― dorkslovesudoku (some dude), Monday, November 1, 2010 8:16 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah it really sucked how you could suddenly stream music on a music discussion board

also, fyi, b0re-dan i made a pitchfork joke and deej had to play all TOW THE COMPANY LINE and start digging in on me re: lol twitter crit; so he's actually more guilty than i am of being a boner

oh good lord whiney

stop

lol @ bore-dan

morbian

i mean al if your thing is basically -- 'i dont care what anyone in the swag cru thinks about rap, i get a hundred other rap mixtapes a month to listen to' -- why even interact with anyone here? do u really get nothing from the curating of taste that ppl have when they link to songs they like ? and it also sounds like imagining some ilx swag cru golden age where there was tons more discussion. i think i convey ideas pretty regularly & honestly here & in my writing. I also think longform music writing is valuable. Im not sure what your point is here except to diss everyone who participates as something you dont have time for

so why post?

it's a good look for THE LAST ROCK CRITIC ALIVE to be bitching at ppl for writing too much actual criticism

lol @ tow the co. line

j0rdache, i didn't read the fucking post, dudr. i don't even know what the post is. but my only point is that it's not a good look for anyone to be writing about an artist and not get to the fucking point for 800 words. if you can't agree with that than good luck dealing with editors

i would honestly love it if someone showed me what this post is

really automatic youtube embeds are one of the worst things that has happened to ilx in general the last couple yearsxpost

― dorkslovesudoku (some dude), Monday, November 1, 2010 8:16 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah it really sucked how you could suddenly stream music on a music discussion board

― deej, Monday, November 1, 2010 9:18 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

youtube is great, i think it's great to find music on there and the couple years that people just linked to youtube on ilx were great. i just think that a) having to load a thread with 800 youtubes is a pain in the ass and b) having to turn off images to avoid those threads crashing my browser is a pain in the ass and c) the way the youtube links come up when i have images turned off is kind of annoying and makes it hard to pull up the video as a normal youtube window and d) it's resulted in a lot of posts where people just post the video and some brief non-descriptive phrase and i have to click on it anyway just to get an idea of what's being talked about. it's a shitty coding decision that i will never stop bitching about.

this is the post: http://kingdrake.com/blog/most-important-rapper-decade-big-krit-last-king

sorry for inadvertantly fanning the flames of the deej/whiney butthurt hemorrhoids, everybody.

wait, so whiney, you're the guy who bitches all the time about gorilla vs bear & now you're bitching about blog posts having TOO much crit in them?

what is preferable median blog post word count to reel in the whineys of the world

i'm not bitching about blog posts having too much crit (or KRIT) in them. i was just echoing some dude's sentiment that you should get to the point, ffs. that's just good writing. i love crit but i don't think "make it readable" is too crazy an opinion to hold

i mean al if your thing is basically -- 'i dont care what anyone in the swag cru thinks about rap, i get a hundred other rap mixtapes a month to listen to' -- why even interact with anyone here? do u really get nothing from the curating of taste that ppl have when they link to songs they like ? and it also sounds like imagining some ilx swag cru golden age where there was tons more discussion. i think i convey ideas pretty regularly & honestly here & in my writing. I also think longform music writing is valuable. Im not sure what your point is here except to diss everyone who participates as something you dont have time for

so why post?

― deej, Monday, November 1, 2010 9:21 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

i do often admire and appreciate the passion and energy of this thread and how much digging a lot of people are doing. i'm just saying it's slowly taken a current shape that i find it very difficult to take part in or participate in. i mean i like pretty much everyone who posts on this thread and to some extent take an interest in their opinions, even you when you're not carrying on 12-hour marathon arguments or posting 80 'nu bay' youtubes in a row.

whiney it only had one click thru, right up your alley