Scientology vs. Objectivism

I have, and he rather slyly, creepily started to insert $ci stuff into our everyday conversations,very subtle, at first - til it got to a point of outright "I think you would benefit from considering blah blah" and I stopped talkng to him at that point.

Trayce I hear you but I think you would benefit from considering

I've gone into Churches and taken the personality test and let them give me the lines and the runaround and they seem like genuine people, not hucksters. I had to resist the urge to be like "So do you really buy into all the Xenu bullshit cause you seem like an alright dude" but I guess that's how they do it.

After I took the personality test the dude suggested a half-dozen books from their shop that I would benefit from and gave me an official-looking "prescription" for weekend courses they offered at "student discount prices."

Hahahah <3 J0hn.

One time a guy on the subway tried to get me to take a "stress test" on the subway and i told him that i'd heard scientology ruined lives and then he started yelling at me. "WHAT SINS HAVE YOU COMMITTED??" so uh, no thanks.

not actually "on the subway" but in the union square station. i think i've posted about this before.

WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES

I voted for Scientology because it would be a source of endless amusement for me and all my other friends

I picked Scientology. Cause I'd rather my friend be weak in the head than be a selfish, arrogant asshole. (Nb: The preceding statement may have no bearing on who I'm actually friends with. IE: I'm a liar clause.)

at the very least, objectivists have a tendency to grow out of it. (that sounds condescending and i don't really mean it that way)

scientology - that shit takes a special kind of nitwit that i'm just not all that keen on suffering. same goes for fundamentalists though.

One of my best friends started as a hardcore objectivist
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scientology sucks ppl dry and ruins lives this aint even a debate

If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
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If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?
If you've got to lose a friend to a cult, which would you prefer?

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AA please marry me.

the Ayn Rand society gave me $30 for an essay about Anthem that I was forced to write in 9th grade, probably because I spelled everything correctly. I think the other kid who got the $30 prize was and is a hardcore Marxist.

Holy eff, you're shitting me! I thought nobody won those essay things. That scholarship poster is, I think, now built in automatically into publically funded educational institutions. And, actually, that's how everyone I know got Randed – by reading that damn book in hopes of 30 pieces of silver. The next day: "The Chinese are stupid to be mad about the Opium Wars because it was capitalism at work." glayoylaoiyloalaol

Seriously that is like the most fucking brilliant thing Ayn Rand ever did. Brilliant and stupid.

my first exposure to Ayn Rand was also via those posters, but I was only able to stomach about 50 pages of that bullshit before I gave up

Scientology is probably worse for the cultist, but they're less annoying overall.

i think this is true on both counts. and deej otm about real-world effects of randism:

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HI DERE!

one of my hs friends dropped out of college to become a scientologist and is still in the church. i'm in occasional contact with him (he's even a facebook friend), and he seems kind of goofy and confused about his direction in life, but that's how he was before he joined the church too.

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"he spent several days deciding on the artifacts. Much long than he spent deciding to kill himself, and approximately the same time he spent getting that many reds. He would be found lying on his back, on his bed, with a copy of Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead" (which would prove he had been a misunderstood superman rejected by the masses and so, in a sense, murdered by their scorn) and an unfinished letter to Exxon protesting the cancellation of his gas credit card." Philip K. Dick A Scanner Darkly p. 186

lol

congratulations, Clearwater

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/scientologists-open-super-power-headquarters-article-1.1518885

the haha objectivism's just a harmless teenage phase stuff upthread is poignant in its november 2008ness

Started getting Scientology ads on social media lately, they're doing the full press w/ streaming movies, FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT etc..

Scientology thoroughly poisons its adherents, but has been widely labeled as poison. Randian 'Objectivism' is poison, too, but it is somewhat milder and doesn't have the same warning labels. If I had to wish one on an innocent stranger, it would (reluctantly) be Objectivism, since it is easier to recover from.

At first I thought this was about Louis Zukofsky, George Oppen, Lorine Niedecker, etc. vs. scientology, and I was like 'why the fuck are we even polling this?'

At least Scientology's mythology is entertaining

Xenu > James Taggart.

Scientism vs. objectivology.