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na she's got some good ballads,they're just restrained compared to the usually excellent rocker tracks (another plug: my take on "Coming To You" will be on PaperThin one of these days. Yeah, sometimes ZZ Top do a tour of nothing but casinos, and the Times had a thing about encountering Dylan in an Atlantic City casino, slot machine headz and all. But he still charges and gets the better rates, according to the piece, and he and Merle have been known to co-star in such establishments (he and Willie favor minor league ballparks, when togethering) And yeah, Dyl seems to like playing a ski bar one night, a hockey stadium he next, like these other guys apparently.

don (dow), Thursday, 16 November 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the Mekons' "Original Sin" CD on Twin/Tone. I don't know, doesn't this contain some of the stuff you're looking for, Chuck? It has them doing "$1000 Wedding" and it looks like "Mr Confess" is from the English Dancing Master EP. The CD's a real bargain, all of "Fear and Whiskey" (which I probably like just a bit less than "Rock n Roll") plus some mostly great extra stuff

Not familiar with Original Sin. I've got a couple hodgepodgy odds-and-sods CDs (I Have Been To Heaven And Back: Hen's Teeth And Other Lost Fragments of Unpopular Culture Vol. 1 and Where Were You: Hens Teeth Etc Etc Vol. 2 that include sundry rare early tracks among sundrier live ones and so on; somewhere in storage I also have Punk Rock, I think it's called, where they entertainingly re-record a bunch of their punk-era stuff -- my Fear and Whiskey CD leaves that great album intact; a few of those early tracks also show up on the two-disc Heaven And Hell: The Very Best of the Mekons, which also has all I'll ever need of their widely acclaimed '90s and '00s stuff, which I've honestly never really understood the appeal of), but anyway, I think with those early EPs, I also miss the actual objects, you know? Though I do think they were doing their best music back then; my favorite album by them {used to have it on vinyl, now on CD} is 1980's The Mekons, a/k/a {for no reason I've ever figured out} Devils Rats and Piggies. And I actually found The Mekons Story fun back in the day; wish I'd kept my vinyl copy of that one too. I assume Lester Bangs liked it too, since he wrote the liner notes, in which he claimed it to be the best album in the world this side of Metal Machine Music and/or something by Black Oak Arkansas, I forget which. So blah blah blah. After Edge of The World, for me, they had more trouble holding my attention.

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Original Sin has just about all their promo Sin sutt, incl some EP tracks that didn't make their way over here back in that era, although they may have adhered to some later collections. (Xgau describes it on his site, I think.) Also like Mekons' New York, though it
's on vintage ROIR cassette. Hopefully they've eventually cleaned up the sound (initial CDs, when they finally started doing those, sounded just like teh tapes). Liner notes by one xhuxk.

don (dow), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

On the pressing question of where Miley is from, according to Wikipedia she was born in Franklin and lives on her parents' farm (doesn't say where the farm is), went to Heritage Middle School in Thompson's Station, now has a private tutor. Around age 9 she lived in Toronto while her dad was on the series Doc.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

have we talked about kacey jones' "sings mickey newbury"?

pretty good, a bit genteel in the vocal department. really gets going about track 10 with "san franciscop mabel joy" and "you've always got the blues." who can tell me what the best newbury record from the '70s is? xgua gives neither one he grades in his '70s guide above B-. He says, "Never trust meteorological symbolism," and sure enough kacey jones' record has these rain sounds in it...

speaking of nashville humanist songwriters, bobby braddock has a new autobiography coming out, "down in oberndale," (pretty sure that's spelled correctly) which is pidgin southern for auburndale, fla., where he grew up. what are the great *songwriter* autobiographies?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretty much the only songwriter autobiog I've read is Tom T. Hall, and I liked it quite a lot, though it's not up there with Ulysses S. Grant's Memoirs or Leon Trotsky's My Life.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" has risen to number 16 on Billboard's Hot 100. I haven't been paying close attention, but I think the only country songs to go higher this year have been Rascal Flatts' "What Hurts The Most" and "Life Is A Highway."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep forgetting the lyrics to "Muirshin Durkin," so when I sing it to myself I go "Goodbye Russian cooking, I'm sick and tired of drinking." Which are excellent lyrics, though incorrect.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

To my nonsurprise, Th' Legendeary Shack Shakers Pandelirium did not make the Plug Awards (for indie something-or-other) official ballot, despite my nominating it in the "Americana" category. I would have nominated the Electric Boogie Dawgz, but their alb was released last year. (I might nonetheless vote for it in the Country Critics poll, if there is one.) If there were any indies this year of the caliber of last year's Deana Carter, Jason Aldean, and Little Big Town, I don't know of 'em, but that may just be because I've paid so little attention.

And Pitbull's El Mariel didn't make the ballot in the "Hip-Hop" category. And Ms. Peachez "Fry That Chicken" didn't make the ballot under videos.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:16 (seventeen years ago) link

some (maybe not all) indie country albums i ennjoyed more than legendary shack shakers' one this year by artists from A to L in the alphabet:


The Kentucky Headhunters – Flying Under The Radar (CBUJ reissue)*
Becky Hobbs – Best Of The Beckaroo Part 1 (Beckaroo reissue)
Shawn Camp – Fireball (Skeeterbit)
Hacienda Brothers – What’s Wrong With Right (Proper)
Terry Lee Bolton – American Man (MRC)
Alan Bros. Band – Brick By Brick (Alan Bros. Music)

New Bill Kirchen album sounds pretty dang good so far, too. Kentucky Headhunters just made the top 10 (not just country, everything) album list I submitted to the poll for my current employer. As did Leanne Kingwell's album, but we decided she's not country despite being indie right? As did Victory Brothers, who are definitely both, but they are not from A to L in the alphabet. As did Montgomery Gentry and Toby Keith, who are country but not indie (and Huck Johns, who may or might be country and/or indie, but probably not). And so on.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 17 November 2006 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

And Dale Watson's album, which just missed making the top ten I just submitted (literally -- it got bumped at the last minute by an album by a reality show/sextape star with no musical talent; if I had done a top 11 instead, it would've been on there) is indie country too.

Bill Kirchen's album is more rock and soul and blues than anything I've heard by him before. Great title (and rocking title track): Hammer Of The Honky Tonk Gods. He does "Devil With A Blue Dress On" as a slow shuffle, closes with an Arthur Alexander song.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 17 November 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

have we talked about kacey jones' "sings mickey newbury"?

Oy vey. Me upthread:

I finally listened to this here Kasey Jones album of Mickey Newbury songs. Uggh. Useful if only to have all the worst versions of Newbury's songs in one place.

I think genteel is the best thing you can say about it. To my ears it's basically Mancini Americana, with a vocalist who may as well be parsing a phone book from Kazakistan, for all she seems to understand what she's singing.

The best Newbury album from the '70s remains Frisco Mabel Joy (and the tribute to that album that came out a few years ago >>>> than this Kacey Jones record). Most of his '60s and '70s stuff gets swamped in confused, faux-Sherrill arrangements (and I love real Sherrill), so buyer beware. But Mabel Joy is classic. Also, the double album, Live at Montezuma Hall anticipates his most intense and purely beautiful album, from the late '90s, the solo/live Nights When I Am Sane. This is not background music; he sings the living fuck out of every line.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is like Freaky Friday or something. Totally agree with xhuxk on the new Kirchen. Good song selection too.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't heard any on Chuck's indie list, and I can well believe they're better than th' Legendary Shack Shakers. Here are the Plug "Americana" nominees (in alphabetical order); the only one I've heard in full is the undeserving A Blessing And A Curse:

Alejandro Escovedo - The Boxing Mirror (Back Porch)
Band Of Horses - Everything All The Time (Sub Pop)
Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - The Letting Go (Drag City)
Calexico - Garden Ruin (Quarterstick)
Califone - Roots & Crowns (Thrill Jockey)
Drive-By Truckers - A Blessing And A Curse (New West)
Eef Barzelay - Bitter Honey (SpinART)
Horse Feathers - Words Are Dead (Lucky Madison)
Jenny Lewis w/ The Watson Twins - Jenny Lewis w/ The Watson Twins (Team Love)
Jolie Holland - Springtime Can Kill You (Anti-)
M. Ward - Post-War (Merge)
Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings The Flood (Anti-)

(the Plug Independent Music Awards link, if you're interested in voting.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom T. Hall's The Storyteller's Nashville may or may not be the autobio Frank's referring to, but it's really funny, and has good serious stuff too. And gives some backstory on various songs. Although, for instance, "Harper Valley PTA" seems to have come loose from a lost weekend's drunken onslaught, and some of the better later anecdotes end with "And that's how I wrote 'Sneaky Snake,'" or some shit, so the gradual creative burn-out, or boredom, or crank out so much stuff you lose touch with qualty control, becomes evident (although it wouldn't if I didn't know the music, cos the book itself is good all the way through). I like his 80s novel Springhill, Tennessee (about the coming of a Saturn plant, and thus the Japanese, and the Yankee auto-workers tryin' to steal our jobs)Real good piece by Dave Hickey in the November Harper's, "It's Morning In Nevada." He travels the state with a Greek-American from Georgia, a female poly sci prof and state senator who's running for Gov. in the Democratic primary. Goes way into Las Vegas culture and its relation to desert culture and how they relate to rest of West and USA.(And the then-future Midterms, in effect.) Distinctive place, distinctive Dave! (He shows a way past the received view that seeps even or especially into outlying bloglands, and yet his way pertains, more so than ever, in fact)

don (dow), Friday, 17 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Correction: Nights When I Am Sane is not solo; Jack Williams joins in on acoustic lead guitar. Recorded at the Hermitage Ballroom in Nashville around '93 or so. It'll wreck you from first note to last.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

This is like Freaky Friday or something. Totally agree with xhuxk on the new Kirchen

Well, actually...Freaky Friday must be over now because the Kirchen album's sounding a lot duller to me today than it was a couple days ago. Just kinda stodgy and slow and colorless, and the title track doesn't really kick all that hard after all, and why the hell would anybody want to slow down "Devil With a Blue Dress On," come to think of it? So right now, I'm on the fence, but maybe it'll kick back in, or maybe it won't. What basically keeps happening is, well, it's in the five-disc changer now with the Game (clunky rap voice, ocassionally tasty and tasteful retro-soul backup, sounds very Dr. Dre a lot of it no matter what Dre's involvement was or wasn't, but I never gave much a shit about Dre give or take a couple songs so I doubt I'll have much more patience with this thing), Yabby You (who sounds warm and dubby and greater than I would have guessed), Borat (just saw the movie, which was slightly disappointing though still frequently hilarious but maybe the disappointment was just that it had been built up so much by so many people, but at any rate i also just realized today that the soundtrack is a compilation, and track #7 is beautiful, and i think it's by o.m.f.o. but it's hard to tell because there are not the same number of titles on the cover as tracks on the cd, since some of the tracks are just snippets of dialouge and stuff, so you can't just count down to the seventh title, which is "grooming pubis", and also "o kazakhastan" which ends the movie sounds more like laibach than most of the national anthems on laibach's own new album) and joe gruschecky (ex of the iron city houserockers, and his new album features bruce springteen on a few tracks and while i have no doubt that this album must blow out of the water that springsteen seeger covers album which must be the most boring idea for an album of the year even though i didn't listen to the thing since life is too fucking short, but gruschecky is still not writing them like he was in 1980 or 1981 and his band barely rocks at all, dude really needs to befriend kenny aranoff or somebody, though sometimes there's some passable drama in joe's oily sobersided sincerity and the guitar buildups in a way that a couple of the tracks like "safe at home" for instance might sound decent in a "rescue me" episode or perhaps a scene from "the wire" with mcnulty fucking up again), and oftimes when a kirchen song comes on i think it's gruschecky by mistake, which is frankly not a good sign.


xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

yay here is another amazing Spanish-language country-tinged record for you all to ignore: Osé, two young guys who I think are brothers but haven't read the stuff very closely, with their album Seras; very Bruce Cougar Bongiovi en español but with a lovely light-pop feel, pretty voices to go with their pretty-boy faces, very nice

and the more I hear of the new Intocable album Cruce de Caminos a.k.a. Crossroads the more I fall in love with it. Johnny Lee Rosas might have the best voice in America, because it's not quite perfect but DAMN he delivers the goods. hilariously, when they do a "pop" version of huge hit single "Por Ella," it lays on the country signifiers so thick that I think maybe they actually consider modern country to be the real sound of "pop" in the U.S. but sadly for y'all, it's all in Spanish, so you won't really care about it. (P.S. I am an asshole tonight.)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

xp

The Game and Gruschecky now replaced in the changer with Fairyland (French-I-think metal band on Napalm) and new Ying Yang Twins.

"One More Day" on the Kirchen album does have a nice Dock Boggs era white country blues feel to it, I guess. And I do like the Arthur Alexander cover. So I haven't written the thing off quite yet.

I've been considering springing for the Intocable CD, actually. I probably won't mind the Spanish of it if the tunes are catchy enough.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"Working Man" and "Soul Cruisin'" very nice on the Kirchen album too. I should just shut my mouth and stop second-guessing everything.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

if you heard anything off Diez, Chuck, you'll know exactly what Crossroads sounds like: these songs are unimpeachable. they're not exactly fiery like norteño can be or hyperactive like banda, but they are smooth and well-crafted...and that accordion...

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a vague memory of being underwhelmed by the last Intocable album I heard, actually. Possibly too subtle for my fiery tastes. But what I've read about the new album intrigues me regardless.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

well you might not like it, because we sometimes don't agree; but I love this one the way I loved "Diez," so I'll vouch for it. it's kinda long though, 15 tracks/57 minutes! plus a DVD with videos and making-of mini-doc! a great value for $12.95 at Circuit City!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

plus i am an idiot, singer is Ricky Muñoz

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

also, holy crap, that "pop" version of "Por Ella" is produced by Lloyd Maines! on the DVD, he says "I'd never heard of Intocable before this project, but I've told a lot of my friends and they were all like OH SNAP THEY ARE AWESOME"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

kinda long though, 15 tracks/57 minutes! plus a DVD with videos and making-of mini-doc!

Sounds like a hell of a lot of work to get through...(What do they think they are, a hip-hop group or something?) (I hate great values!)

Kirchen's "Hammer of The Honky Tonk Gods" title cut kicks (or at least "signifies kicking") in a Junior Brown kind of way, I guess. There's something sorta deluded about it -- half of Nashville rocks harder; hell, Kellie Pickler might rock harder -- but it's not bad.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It's only hard to get through if you have a heart of stone, Chuck! Whatever happened to taking a break halfway through, having a sandwich, and then coming back to it?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

is anyone watching the big reba special, cause i think im going to blog it!

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://community.livejournal.com/poptimists/274184.html

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

saw reba talking to megan mullaly (sp?) yesterday. couldn't really watch more than 10 secs of it, tho. reba makes me nervous, like there's a prize rabbit or some kind of exotic rodent people keep as a pet squirming around in the bathroom with me. i know this is irrational. she sings good and at times i have enjoyed her and i think i've watched almost all of one episode of her sitcom.

kirchen's record has the same faults as his show i saw this fall. he's real good for about two songs. his supposedly awesome guided tour of pop where he interpolates all the licks he knows is actually pretty great, but seemed empty even with a couple beers in me. you kind of wish he'd go johnny guitar watson and write more songs about more interesting and perhaps raffish reality. the songs blur in my mind. the curse of reverence and "americana" and all that, but he's been at it for a while just like nick lowe, who used to write about more interesting and raffish reality but now is a very good genre artist. we all love arthur alexander, man. (i love nick lowe, but the last record of his i found remotely interesting was "party of one," which is what, 1990?)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

So I figured out with 95 percent certainty the track #7, my favorite (and probably the most pop, thanks to the sweet-voiced lady singer) track on the Borat soundtrack, is "Eu Vin Acasa Cu Drag" by Stefan De La Barbuletsi, which originally supposedly appeared on AMMRA Records S.R.I. The other legit/non-Borat-sung tracks (apparently middle eastern and or eastern European, though maybe or I assume not usually Kazakh per se) are consistently really good, too, and first came out on labels like Piranha, Essay, Crammed Discs, World Connection, etc. O.M.F.O., who made an album I liked a couple years ago, have two tracks, which I'm pretty sure are tracks # 10 and 12. The only really confusing thing if you sit down with a pen and paper is that there seem to be three "real songs" between Borat's "You Be My Life" at # 13 and his "O Kazazhstan" at # 18, but only two titles between them. Which makes tracks #14 throuh #16 somewhat mysterious (since #17 is Borat high-fiving a gay-bashing redneck of some sort).

(Hey Frank brought the album up! I guess I should put all this on the world music thread too. I'm not sure what it has to do with country, though yeah, there's a twang in the music now and then, and didn't one of you guys vote for Gogol Bordello in a Nashville Scene poll once? This CD belongs on a shelf near them, Kultur Shock, Balkan Beatbox, etc, unless like me you file in alphabetical order.)

And my new maybe-favorite on Kirchen's CD is "Skid Row in My Mind."

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(i love nick lowe, but the last record of his i found remotely interesting was "party of one," which is what, 1990?)

ha ha, for me it was labour of lust in 1979! (though i guess i gave nick the knife or whatever a fairly mixed review for my college paper in missouri when it came out, a few years later.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

So yeah, in the end, I'd say the Kirchen album squeaks by more on its real good song selection than its better-than-competent performances (and singing). But it still bats at least .500 in my book. I even wound up liking the track called "Heart of Gold," which is not a "Heart of Gold" I've known before. (It's credited to one T. Johnson). Best original is "One More Day," which turns out to be more Bob Wills than Dock Boggs, more Western swing than white blues. Anybody know who Blackie Farrell, who wrote "Skid Row In My Mind," or J. New, who wrote "Soul Cruisin'," are? They're both really great. "Devil With A Blue Dress" is totally dreary in this version, though maybe I'd forgive it here if I didn't grow up on Mitch Ryder.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of things eastern european, darko rundek & cargo orkestar's "mhm a-ha oh yeah da-da" from this year is really nice. sort of croatian (?) hedonism. hints of pere ubu and beefheart but it also evokes august darnell if he were from croatia and living in paris. very unusual tone. "wanadoo" is one of the best things i've heard this year.

ghostfinger, a nashville (actually murfreesboro, tn.) band, does really cool country-rock pastiches. the singer sounds like jagger or arthur lee or some white guy trying to be soulful, and it's mostly funny. they get doleful and sometimes the rockers don't quite work, but "moon" alternates sections of fake-rock and country-rock quite effectively. can't make out what it is they're exactly trying to express, but get the feeling they're a bit more than the usual history lesson. it's been a good year for nashville pop bands--lone official, the features, ghostfinger and i guess lambchop, too, have all released good records. certainly, lone official's "tuckassee take" made my no depression top 20 new releases.

and i have to say that i've listened to neko case's record (which also made my ND list) as much as i have anything this year; the songs are better than i initially thought, and she sustains a *mood* throughout that sorta skirts desolation--the line about driving past the beautiful flooded fields resonates as they say with my experience. and it's one of the great records in 6/8, a time signature she manipulates savvily and which suggests, i guess, the timelessness (or the immersion in memory) she's going after.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Darryl Worley album on this week's AOL listening party, though I'm not going to get the chance to hear more than a couple of tracks before I fly to Connecticut tomorrow. Track one he equates drinking and being free of his old record label (he presents both as positives). Track two uses acoustic blues for good sharp riffs.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Neko made my ballot too. It under-achieves but what it achieves is still her own.

So this Dixie Chick flick, Shut Up and Sing, is playing in town. Should I go? That whole brouhaha seems like decades ago.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

its done by the woman who did harlan county usa, so its got a good pedigree

did the ND Ballots go out already?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Anthony. I'll go this weekend (I'm supposed to see Casino Royale tonight, but maybe I'll talk my date into the Chicks Flick). ND Best Of voting is just for regular contributors, mostly Contributing Eds and Senior Eds, but they expanded the comment section this year beyond just the latter--which is cool.

Do we know yet if the Scene poll is dead? Is Himes gonna do it elsewhere? I mean, he's got the rolls...

And I know this has been chattered about elsewhere, but I never got a clear answer: what's to become of Pazz n Jop?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

New George Strait album Twang. The First single "Living For The Night" is so classic. Any thoughts?

Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link


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