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My point was that it's not realistic for these women to always be wearing a bra when they're having sex, and for me it's a big drawback of the show.

-- accentmonkey, Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

hmm, ok.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Dud. They're all a bunch of horrible, rotted out, face-melted liches who float around on the disgusting smell of impending menopause.

I blame that show for the hoards of ape-brained,mhorse-faced girls who roam around New York City in packs DISHING DIRT like they're fucking sophisticates. You can always tell the group of girls on the subway or in cafes who are secretly thinking to themselves< "God I am -so- like Carrie right now!! looll"

uhrrrrrrr10, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the other actresses started wearing bras during the sex scenes when the producers/whoever realized the show was going to be syndicated.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ "its not like I'm cataloguing boobie-exposure or anything"

FIVE POSTS LATER...

mark s, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

yes that makes sense, i mean Samantha would be wearing bra during sex scenes (or indeed montages) with that Smith dude which itself made no sense at all. (xp)

blueski, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the other actresses started wearing bras during the sex scenes when the producers/whoever realized the show was going to be syndicated.

Yes! You are right. I didn't think of that.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i think katherine heigl wears a bra in the sex scenes in 'knocked up'. i don't really have a problem with this convention.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

tuomas to thread

mark s, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

oh i got totally into this show over the past several weeks. i thought it got better as the seasons went on. but maybe just b/c i started liking/getting to know the characters more? i don't know, i got hooked.
i get it now. still have some issues with it sure whatever but there's a lot to love abt it too.
!

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

also: a lot of hot men

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

This has that quality where even if you think it blows, you can keep watching and scoffing just to soak in the insane formal regularity of it. A friend and I used to watch this and make bets at the beginning whether it would be an "I couldn't help but wonder" episode or a "I had to ask" episode (or one of approximately 5 "other" episodes). I think it's entirely possible that they realized, at some point, how the horrendous pun segues could actually provide maximum entertainment value to people who partly loathed the show.

I can't believe I actually have something to comment on, nudity-wise, but: at some point there was an ASS DOUBLE for Charlotte, and you could tell, because this ass double had the world's flattest ass, whereas Charlotte, surprisingly, is like kinda pla-DOW in that area.

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i am on the last episode! i am feeling kind of attached
but it will be okay
xpost
charlotte does have a great ass!
and yeah, in the first two seasons i was more a loather than a liker of this show but was sucked in by the maximum entertainment value quality. and then i was just sucked in by the characters and storylines and the real/unreal quality of it all, which i think is good b/c it leaves enough space to relate but also to distance and just enjoy tv

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

am still kind of blown away that freakin' barishnikov! was on this for several episodes! and that sjp got to kiss him A LOT!

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

oh rrrobyn.

hstencil, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i know :/
i am caught up
i can't control it

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:35 (sixteen years ago) link

these paris episodes are ridiculous i gotta say

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm surprised, Robyn -- I remember liking the first season or so when it was on, when it was still trying to be sharp and clever and HBO-y. It was the gradual descent into soap-com ridiculousness after that that made it really laughable.

We should compare this to the Girlfriends thread -- the first bit of that show is so wildly aping Sex+City that it's kind of uncomfortable. You spend the whole time imagining a pitch meeting where people are like "Black Sex and the City!" "Black Sex and the City?" "Sex and the City -- black!" "City black Sex and!"

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:54 (sixteen years ago) link

at certain times i have a soft spot for soap-com ridiculousness, believe it

i liked the sharp & clever of the first couple of seasons but i don't know, maybe it wasn't my kinda sharp & clever, also somewhat alienating to me. or maybe that was b/c it was so very late-90s. i can see why i had no interest in it in the first place but also why it makes sense that i got into it now. anyway, it's all watched now! i can see how regular viewers would get choked up at the finale - i mean, most people watched this over many years; i watched it over a couple of months, and partly as distraction/procrastination. it worked! and now it is over

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I like some soap-com ridiculousness, too -- I was gonna say that I prefer it to be more camp or knowing than this show tended to be, but then I realized that (a) this would have really blown if it had ever attempted camp or knowingness, plus (b) Bring It On is still on my favorite-movies list. (I prefer it like that, but I don't know what that is: "seeming like it's going to be knowingly campy but then it's actually scarily earnest and thus unintentionally campy?" Sex+City might actually age into that category, it'll be poignant and hilarious to the teenagers of the 2040s.)

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 06:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Bring It On so much.

whatevs dudes, seasons 1 and 2 are good but seasons 3 and 4 are fucking amazing when it comes to entertainment value (plus carrie's fucking hair). not to mention season 5.

season 6 rocks but baryshnikov's character is a schmuck, charlotte's baby storyline and samantha's cancer storyline are pure schmaltz and the paris episodes are way too fucking cute.

but the thick of the 6th has Harry marrying Charlotte and Berger breaking up with Carrie, which is priceless ("this will no longer be known as the day i got broken up with on a post-it -- it will now be known as the day i got arrested for smokin a doobie!")

fuck

Surmounter, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, except I saw that episode recently and I couldn't help thinking that if my friend kept shiting on about being broken up with on a post-it in that annoying way, I would just go home.

The thing, even though I don't love every tiny thing about it, I still really like the show.

Harry is my favourite, though.

accentmonkey, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

so great

Surmounter, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Especially his pride in walking about the apartment naked.

accentmonkey, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha yes so funny

on that beautiful couch

Surmounter, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Just the thought of the way she says "doobie" is grossing me out.

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i think season 6 was when miranda finally got a normal, or at least not hideous, hairstyle.

lauren, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

steve seems like a bro

deej, Saturday, 19 January 2008 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

total classic

69, Saturday, 19 January 2008 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

we really haven't had enough SJP here yet

gabbneb, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

can you imagine what the opening night of that movie in Chelsea will be like? The Rocky Horror Asshole Show.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i still love this show. carrie is still one of my favorite characters ever. but i really hope she's less whiny/codependent in the movie than she was toward the end of the show.

get bent, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i know, i love her too. i'm excited! hoping my friend can sneak me into some opening night premiere bla bla bla cuz of her job. but it probs won't happen.

Surmounter, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

sometimes this show makes me incredibly angry because it is so unrealistic but then there will be little things that happen that are so spot-on re: being single in nyc. blahhh.

tehresa, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

As if anyone anywhere has enough money to open a bar in Soho or wherever.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

SJP is a horseface.

calstars, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

challops

deej, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

calstars man you could take this topical humor on the road, maybe talk about how moses' beard is getting a little shaggy

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

you should take being butthurt on the road

and what, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

was watching sex and the city the other night

surm, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...
one year passes...

Emily Nussbaum on the fashionable running-down of the show:

Although the show’s first season is its slightest, it swiftly establishes a bold mixture of moods—fizzy and sour, blunt and arch—and shifts between satirical and sincere modes of storytelling. (It’s not even especially dated: though the show has gained a reputation for over-the-top absurdity, I can tell you that these night clubs and fashion shows do exist—maybe even more so now that Manhattan has become a gated island for the wealthy.)

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/07/29/130729crte_television_nussbaum

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

speechless

surm, Monday, 22 July 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

pretty much OTM this piece, i came here to post it! i like this;

The show’s basic value system aligns with Carrie: romantic, second-wave, libertine. But “Sex and the City” ’s real strength was its willingness not to stack the deck: it let every side make a case, so that complexity carried the day. When Carrie and Aidan break up, they are both right. When Miranda and Carrie argue about her move to Paris, they are both right. The show’s style could be brittle, but its substance was flexible, in a way that made the series feel peculiarly broad-ranging, covering so much ground, so fleetly, that it became easy to take it for granted.

piscesx, Monday, 22 July 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

surm, what left ya speechless?

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Yeah good piece. She has a point about the genuine character growth

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 July 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

What I wouldnt give to hear richard nixon expounding on this show

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 July 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

"And these women... they just fuck like a buncha streetwalkers..."

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

rewatching this in dribs and drabs as I do every few years and God, season 4 is really the worst as a whole. Though there are some moments I really like (Carrie and Big dancing to Moon River until the record starts skipping, Trey doing the photo shoot with Charlotte, the Lucy Liu cameo!) but Carrie is INSUFFERABLE this season. There’s some great fashion but so, so, so much cringe. What the fuck was Samantha at giving Richard that hideous heart print? Has Carrie ever been more loathsome than when she’s browbeating Charlotte to lend her money for her deposit? Also, am I supposed to believe Carrie would start working at Vogue and not knock a column about accessories out of the park? She spent a deposit’s worth of cash on shoes alone!

hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

oh no

HBO Max has officially revived #SexAndTheCity https://t.co/st3CaB9MQf pic.twitter.com/IfjgbSkRTI

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) January 10, 2021



Fellow original star Kim Cattrall (Samantha) is not involved in the HBO Max incarnation. The actress has openly feuded with Parker and, more in October 2017, was vocal about seeing her part being recast in a bid to improve the original comedy's inclusivity.

I bet they killed her off. 😞

lol
For his part, creator Star told The Hollywood Reporter in October that he had no interest in returning to the series today. "I May Destroy You is the Sex and the City for now," he said as part of a Creative Space interview pegged to his Netflix comedy Emily in Paris. "Girls was the Sex and the City for its moment. I wouldn't be doing Sex and the City today. Twenty years ago, I knew those people that I was writing about. I understood the time and I understood the characters and also what needed to be said."

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

Continuing my commitment to being the only person posting itt,

I find it fascinating that Sex and the City - a show about a bunch of white women making jokes and shagging - is considered embarrassingly retro and borderline offensive, but The Sopranos - a show about a bunch of white men killing each other -is considered an untouchable classic

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021



I’ve never seen The Sopranos but even I know that’s a shitty and reductive take - and it’s a shitty and reductive take about SATC too. Some parts of SATC have really not aged well - Carrie raging at Charlotte for not selling her engagement ring to help Carrie out with her deposit would come across even worse than it did at the time, the racism, the aggressively ‘apolitical’ small c conservatism - and some are still great. I love every moment the show acknowledges, either through narratives or telling us, that Carrie is full of shit, and the later seasons are really lacking in that regard.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:40 (three years ago) link


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