The Miracle of the Smiths

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Why I am still so geeked to hear this? I should have grown out of this by now.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

drums sound way bigger on this reel around the fountain.

underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

what was Brixton Ace i wonder? never heard of it before.

I think it's the Fridge now.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, all those troy tate mixes are pretty sweet.

tylerw, Monday, 1 November 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Cannot wait to get home tonight to dl these! Figures that the week I quit obsessively checking the blog every day it would finally launch.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

never heard the Tate bootleg sound so good as on Accept Yourself here.

piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i actually compared my copy of the tate sessions to the tracks they've posted and it's a huge improvement.

tylerw, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Figures that the week I quit obsessively checking the blog every day it would finally launch.

In 2010 people aren't using RSS feeds?

Google Reader please.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

this is from an eno interview i read yesterday...don't know if it had been suggested prior or whether 'pop in 85' really did mean 'them, the smiths', automatically

...What do you think of modern pop music?

I rather like them, The Smiths. I think they're a good band. I think Morrissey is an extraordinarily arrogant person, especially considering that he's probably the most successful tone-deaf singer the world has ever knows. But that being said, I like his singing quite a lot, and I like their records. I could live without some of his studied miserableness, I suppose.

But I don't listen to records much.

Terminal Boredoms (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i actually compared my copy of the tate sessions to the tracks they've posted and it's a huge improvement.

These all sound so much better than the Tate sessions I already had...they're almost unbelievably good.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

The most thorough examination of all the various different Tate sessions/ demos i've come across is here. I'm glad somebody went to the trouble of working all this out.
http://tinyurl.com/322arwp

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

This isn't being updated fast enough!
;)

Can you keep up? (Cheetah), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree. I thought the concern was with it being taken down quickly. Bizarre to post two in a row then nothing for going on 2 days.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

really enjoying the first two singles. finally had a chance to listen to them both in full. hope they end up releasing all of the Troy Tate sessions with this fantastic mastering. Sounds great.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh my, two days, lawdy.

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

The gap between my general indifference towards the Smiths and my love for "Panic" is huge. I actually find "Panic" weirdly moving. Not for any specific sentiment expressed. It's more like being moved by somebody making a perfect, once-in-a-lifetime statement in a two-minute song.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

panic is music that says something about me and my life. i don't know what though.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

In 2010 people aren't using RSS feeds?

Google Reader please.

Haha, I do use this, but for some reason I've had trouble with blogs I've added in the last 6 months not updating. Think I've fixed it now though.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

.. throw me a frickin bone here

piscesx, Saturday, 6 November 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

was hoping for an update this weekend. not all the interesting in This Charming Man but they may have something interesting. Really interested in Barbarism.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 6 November 2010 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link

It'll be Charming, plus all the remixes...

(there's been a few unreleased ones)

Mark G, Saturday, 6 November 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

well in the meantime..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9588NWjagT8&feature=related

piscesx, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link

morrissey is the str8est looking dude in that freezeframe

i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

A miracle!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sitAQkQFCBU

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

british parliament looks like an amazing thing

steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

OTM

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 December 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2010/dec/15/smiths-queen-is-dead

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

just turned up on emusic. was their full discography on itunes before? in any event, it appears to be now. if it's new on itunes, also, that's -- to me -- 100X more significant than the beatles arriving on itunes.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 17 December 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/

Update of sorts.

piscesx, Monday, 20 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

That thing that that update is about is a real revelation.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

about this Smiths Recycle site: I've downloaded the first two sets of songs. Nice to have one or two things I didn't have digitally - a Troy Tate track, 'hand in glove' live. But not sure I yet get the point of it as a whole. The main 'hand in glove' for instance seems the same as the one on Louder Than Bombs.

can anyone enlighten?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

It's supposed to be "Superiorly mastered" versions of the singles' main tracks, from best sources. Plus bonus tracks as apposite.

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, that new update.. never thought we'd ever get to hear Heavy Track and the early run through of There Is A Light.. and suchlike. been waiting for these to leak since i first read Simon Goddard's book in 2002.

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, that's a matter of opinion.

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure it's a statement.

Stay J0rdan Fresh (sic), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

...easily the most mind-blowing was the discovery of a never-before-mentioned Morrissey/Marr song from 1982 called A Matter Of Opinion.

"Musically, it's very much in the same R 'n' B vein as What Difference Does It Make? while the lyrics are typical Morrissey and quite cynical."

It's not yet known whether the track will be released.
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Update: 05/25 00:48 GMT: An anonymous person adds details from the print NME:
...while the lyrics are typical Morrissey and quite cynical. The opening line is - "Sit by the fire with your books and pretend that you're active"

But they never played it live and there's just the one copy on a rehearsal tape. It's been kept quiet for nearly 20 years so from a fan's perspective this is sensational news."

...Simon Goddard's The Smiths - Songs That Saved Your Life will be published in November by Reynolds & Hearn
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Mark G, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno what's more baffling; these unreleased tracks not leaking years back or Marr and Mozza not putting a proper box set out sooner that had them all on.
either way it's amazing to have them out at last.

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Selling the music to a major label that's unbothered about legacy editions until US Rock radio do a legacy retrospective, can do that.

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno what's more baffling; these unreleased tracks not leaking years back or Marr and Mozza not putting a proper box set out sooner that had them all on.
either way it's amazing to have them out at last.

I agree.

THX THO... (Nicole), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm ecstatic with this version of the queen is dead, which i always wanted to be longer than it is.

can anyone explain me

"and so i broke into the palace
with a sponge and a rusty spanner"

why those two things?

jed_, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

spanner: clobber her over the head, sponge: to wipe up after. also because spanner reminds with 'piana'.

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

of course!

i was in London a few months back and i saw Morrissey on Brompton Road. my head was swimming with shock for about five minutes afterwards.

jed_, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

*rhymes with.

heck this new Smiths bootleg excitement has played havoc with my spelling.

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone need/want to hear the francois kervorkian remixes of "this charming man"? i have them here. vocal and dub.

jed_, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

"i broke into the palace with a sponge and a rusty spanner" is a reference to Michael Fagan whose encounter with the Queen was notable for its mundane elements.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

From the sources i've read Sony are totally into getting the rare stuff out there, its Morrissey/Marr who can't get their acts together.

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I wrote to Johnny Rogan in 1992 and asked him about that verse.

He replied, in a fairly long handwritten letter, that the sponge and spanner were, he supposed, emblems of the proletariat.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I just hear it as two pathetic items with which to attempt a break-in. Whimsy. pathos and a nice turn of phrase seemed enough.

Alba, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

A great big LOLWUT at the sitar on Sheila Take a Bow.

THX THO... (Nicole), Thursday, 23 December 2010 07:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah amazingly incongruous! kinda like it though.

best bits of the nu boot IMHO: the proper This Night Has Opened My Eyes and There Is A Light.. with new words! already a lot of Smiths types seem to be saying they *prefer* it to the original. strange to hear the american-ised "because i wanna see people and i wanna see life" instead of the traditional 'wanT To'.

can't quite see the fuss over the reggae-fied Girlfriend In A Coma mind.

piscesx, Thursday, 23 December 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link


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