Catherine Wheel: Search and Destroy

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i've suddenly decided i really dislike this band. previously i found them inoffensive at most, but the fact that people champion them as one of the more pivotal shoegaze acts renders me clueless to the point of vexation. as i've said previously, they're not far removed from bush in my eyes, and seem wilfully content to huff and puff their way through a chest-beating belated british take on grunge.

charlie h, Sunday, 31 October 2010 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link

'crank' is utter garbage frankly.

charlie h, Sunday, 31 October 2010 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

reminds me of 'glycerine', seriously.

charlie h, Sunday, 31 October 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://vimeo.com/76496410

catherine wheel singer dude now does hyper-expensive Porsche restorations

free dong commissioner (haitch), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 10:09 (ten years ago) link

Myodesign 2 months ago
Good day Singer,
The paint colour is stunning. Would you please tell me if this is a stock Porsche colour? And if so, would you disclose the colour code?
Thank you.

There's a fairly obvious joke to be made here

VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

Yeah a friend had discovered that a few years ago, apparently he's pretty active in that circuit. And why not?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

it's not like he never referenced cars or driving in his lyrics tbf

VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link

outro of 'for dreaming' still one of the greatest moments in rock history obv

VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...

Catherine Wheel seems to be more disliked than I would have thought on ILM, but I suppose there are always winners and losers. This band I really heard tangentially once on TV and found that CD used and then liked it enough to eventually get some more as I would run into other ones by them CDs for a buck or two. I think Catherine Wheel had quite a good of atmosphere at times, I kind of hear it Pink Floyd as much as shoegaze. Maybe it's because I have put them together on 90s CDR comps, they seem a bit like a UK Afghan Whigs without the soul fetish.

This track "Saccharine" I thought was really good 90s psychedelic rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKMYooP2vZc

earlnash, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's cool

they were definitely going for Pink Floyd

imago, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link

one of these days i'll have every catherine wheel b-side downloaded

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

also i always loved adam & eve but the ilx pro-a&e contingent made me love it more

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

Not only going for Pink Floyd to the point of covering "Wish You Were Here," Storm Thorgerson designed some of the album covers. What more do you need, really.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link

The sidelong suite? You could make a case for the second half of A&E

imago, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link

one of these days i'll have every catherine wheel b-side downloaded

i actually own all Catherine Wheel singles.

i should do a poll, hmm.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link

Always kind of liked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTyFyQCq5KY

Good Time Charlie Don't Surf (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:41 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

dude has a seriously unearthly voice and sense of phrasing. it seems like he chooses particular lyrics to sort of tweak the melody, maximizing its power? voice is a gift from god for real

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

and he's bruce dickinson's cousin but you probably knew that already!

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

yeah like doi tbh! but it is amazing that one fam could produce two such different and amazing voices

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

amazing, amazing

repeating the word "amazing" is such a high thing to do

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

Which recordings in particular have you been listening to?

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

ferment and chrome ONLY

its my fall music

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

i never checked out much beyond their first two albums tbh but those two albums were my early '90s jam

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

i wouldnt venture much farther out tbh

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

adam & eve adam & eve adam & eve

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

wait: happy days is ok too. but only chrome and ferment are covered by the stuff i said earlier. i havent given adam and eve its due time, maybe, but it didnt really reach me when i listened to it before. the things i like about CW are missing from it

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link

it's not shoegazey at all but it's their best songwriting imo

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

but basically the things i like about cw: unbelievable melodies

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

and the precise guitar harmonics in "delicious" fuck with my head at least as much as the vivid blurs on ferment

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

melodies, layers of guitar, awesome voice, naked emotions lol

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

same

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

and the words. even when they look stupid on paper, the words always sound great.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

will say that the words on adam and eve are particularly stupid

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

haha well, maybe that's why i hated it

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

i'll commit to revisiting it tonight and seeing. also the solo album (s? is there more than one?) stunk imo. his shit just doesn't work for me without all the loud guitars.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

"Delicious" is sooooo good. The singing is good, but the song maxes out going into the last chorus when the guitars and drums all explode together.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

The duet with Tanya Donelly, "Judy Staring At The Sun" on "Happy Days" is great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Peaked with chrome. Adam and Eve has some nice too but awful cringy vocals/lyrics

"Phantom of the america mother" is so horrible, it's like the worst coldplay song that never existed.

Wishville is atrocious

They were fantastic live

brimstead, Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link

Adam & Eve is like a Pink Floyd that actually rock it's phenomenal, I'm drunk too

pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link

For Dreaming is such an astonishing song

pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

i just realized (doi) that both iron maiden and catherine wheel are the names of medieval torture devices

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

oh shit

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

The first two albums and "Heal"/"Heal 2" are my personal CW canon. Everything else is superfluous (and/or plain bad).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 September 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link

I did/do love Catherine wheel, but things did seem to get progressively less interesting from album to album. "Black Metallic" is one of my all-time jams though.

LimbsKing, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

I still love the first two albums, especially Chrome. I haven't heard the rest in a while but the more they moved away from vaguely shoegaze-y stuff, the less I liked them.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

dude's solo album - lord no

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

"crank" is such a good song, the video on the other hand is really funny but kind of perfect in its 90s-ness

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

he lives in l.a. now and restores porsches.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

not as cool as cousin bruce flying an iron maiden passenger jet around the world tbqh

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

yep. hes such a corny person but i kind of love him for it

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Dickinson-with-Porsche-911.jpg

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link


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