The Shining

Gonna use this opportunity to repost the Physical Cosmologies analysis, which is pretty convincing and a damn wonderful read!

http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGMoBo9f40I

xp goddamit omar

The funniest thing is, I've read some "serious" analyses of The Shining that make equally broad conclusions based on minuscule details as the moon landing guy.
yeah there's one (which i think was linked to on ILX somewhere) that was fairly convincing in some respects ... but totally batshit in others.

oh xpost - that's the one i'm talking about, adam. kinda fascinating.

The funny thing about that Tim Daly story is that his Wings co-star Steven Weber went on to star in the Stephen King-approved TV miniseries version of "The Shining."

omg i never knew that -- that might explain what was on the tape, and why it was home-recorded! lol thx phil

Eyes Wide Shut was released on July 16 th 1999.

Stanley Kubrick insisted in his contract that this be the date of the release.

July 16 th 1999 is exactly 30 years to the day that Apollo 11 was launched.

I present this tidbit of an interpretation to show not only that Stanley Kubrick directed the Apollo moon landings but also to ask NASA to release all of Kubrick's Apollo moon landing footage in their original, glorious 70 mm film.

would he settle for a blu ray release

i have never seen this movie, nor will i ever. im scared shitless by it.

That fits, as it scares no one shitless while they are watching it.

I have seen the shining scare plenty of ppl oh wait it's dr morbius

thank you for this link, tuomas!

This explains why the previous "caretaker" was so pressured and stressed that he had to kill his TWIN daughters.

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Because the previous NASA missions before Apollo were named Gemini!

Here's another site with an incredibly complex analysis based on tiny details in the movie. For example, according to the site a commentary on the genocide of Native Americans is hidden in the food cans you can see on the background in the storage room scenes.

I'm not saying these analyses are invalid, it's perfectly possible Kubrick meant to hide those messages in the movie. If that's true though, it begs the question: if you want to make a statement on American history, why the hell hide it in cryptic background items most viewers are not even gonna notice?

Because Kubrick had OCD resulting in an extreme attention to detail in his movies?

Kubrick's daughter's documentary :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4745727919325920852

Here's another page with some more links to interpretation essays:

http://theshining.20m.com/

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/01/documentary-room-237-sundance/

My favorite detail is how the carpeting changes after the ball is rolled toward Danny while he plays with his toys down the hall from Room 237:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/shining_danny1.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/shining_danny2.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/shining_danny3.jpg

a MOMENTARY LOSS of MUSSSSSSSCULAR COORDINATION! a few extra foot-pounds of energy per second per SECOND!

Something must be in the air!

http://io9.com/5882985/watch-this-insane-breakdown-of-stanley-kubricks-hidden-narrative-in-the-shining

Using unpublished info from the Stanley Kubrick Archives as a key source, Kubrick's Gold Story is a film analysis that uncovers economic themes encoded in The Shining with regard to gold vs fiat monetary systems.

Strange, I remember 1980 audience laughing at most of the stuff the guy is surprised about here.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/i-saw-the-last-showing-of-the-warner-bros-35mm-print-of-the-shining/

And though I've never come around to liking this film, it's a shame there are going to be even more "last 35mm screenings."

guess many of the Shining lovers here have never seen it in 35mm

O HAI

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4530/shinning.jpg

<3 this movie so much

Every time I see that screencap I mistake the guy on the right for George Bush Sr.

guess many of the Shining lovers here have never seen it in 35mm

35mm or no, I would love a chance just to see this on the big screen at all - same goes for pretty much all Kubrick, I suppose, but esp. this & 2001. The only one I was around to catch in its original theatrical run was Eyes Wide Shut (which I actually rather like, but still..)

Every time I see that screencap I mistake the guy on the right for George Bush Sr.

that would go a long ways in understanding why Dubya turned out the way he did ...

morbz will sneer but the only Kubrick i've seen on the big screen is barry lyndon (it was worth it of course).

just remembered that I caught a screening of Dr. Strangelove back in lolcollege. My first time seeing it!

I saw it in 35mm but was 12 years old and don't really remember much about the screening itself due to having been terrified. Have seen it a dozen times on DVD and Blu-Ray since. I've seen 2001 in 70mm at the AFI, Lolita in 35mm at the Cleveland Cinematheque, and Eyes Wide Shut in its theatrical run.

The DVD/Blu-Ray of the shining still only contains the theatrical print, rather than the longer television version, which i don't think has ever been made available to purchase - just as the original, longer theatrical cut of 2001 remains MIA.

The DVD/Blu-Ray of the shining still only contains the theatrical print, rather than the longer television version

No, this "longer television version" was the original theatrical release! Save for the penultimate scene of Barry Nelson visiting Shelley Duvall in the hospital, which I saw on opening night but was cut by Kubrick after a few days and has never been seen again. THEN he further cut it AGAIN from 144 minutes to 113 after MONTHS. I saw this version once and it's total hash from my POV.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081505/alternateversions

OK, rereading Ward's post I don't know what the difference is, if any between "the longer television version" and "the original, longer theatrical cut" is. I don't think it was SK's practice to re-edit for TV (aside from the violence/nudity in The Shining for broadcast censorship).

ahh, looking at the IMDB entry, it seems that the "longer television version" i know (from watching it on britishes tv) is, in fact, the original long theatrical cut (minus that final scene.) i'm p sure, tho, that it's the shorter 'European version' that's on the DVD and Blu-Ray in the UK, thoguh again, it appears the american dvd/blu ray is the longer version.

so i guess i have to buy the region 1 dvd to get the longer cut

btw, did anything ever come of atom egoyan's plan to make an opera based on the film of the shining?

Strange, I remember 1980 audience laughing at most of the stuff the guy is surprised about here.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/i-saw-the-last-showing-of-the-warner-bros-35mm-print-of-the-shining/

And though I've never come around to liking this film, it's a shame there are going to be even more "last 35mm screenings."

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, March 1, 2012 2:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

ah shit, i had no idea that was the last ever showing of the 35mm print. i was planning on going too!

barry lyndon in 35mm is some kind of wonderful. gorgeous!

I can only imagine!

Seeing 2001 in 70mm was like one of the greatest things that's ever happened to me. Awe-inspiring in the most literal sense of the phrase.

So is WB going to pull ALL celluloid prints of Kubrick's films from theaters now? The Film Forum here in NY is showing Digital Cinema Package editions of 2001, Strangelove and The Shining this week as a way to ease Film Catholics into the New Era.

http://i.imgur.com/IhOqq.jpg

haha

i saw the shining in 35mm i guess a dozen years ago. it was a fantastic experience.

still keep meaning to make it to toronto to see 2001 in 70mm whenever the lightbox shows it next.

http://www.themarysue.com/toy-story-the-shining-mashup/

http://static03.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2012/03/toy_shining_car-ride-580x435.jpg

http://static03.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2012/03/toy_shining_twins-580x435.jpg

http://static03.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2012/03/toy_shining_blood-monkeys-580x435.jpg

monkeys and the typewriter got me.

this movie is such a total goddamn masterpiece. for some unfathomable reason my parents let me see it when i was like 11, when yes i was wimpy enough to be seriously creeped out by the weird little girls but more importantly 11 enough to be bone-level shaken by STOP SWINGING THE BAT. GIVE ME THE BAT, WENDY. and by all the abusive-father fear in general (nb my father was upstanding but sometimes there were years my parents fought a lot and probably any kid who's ever seen his dad yell at his mom can queasily jive w/ this angle of the shining).

when i loved it as a kid/teenager it was for the situation, right, the ISOLATION and wendy's POWERLESSNESS and UNCERTAINTY -- it's neat how, even though wendy is an audience surrogate in the sense that she's the one who's probably subjected to the most terror throughout (the kid is big too sure but wendy has a whole layer of maternal fear for him as well as for herself, and plus she gets satanically yelled at by jack nicholson, reads his book, etc.) she's the only one in this haunted house movie who doesn't see any ghosts until the last ten minutes. i remember scoffing at the school that claims native-american-genocide overtones, but those are really there, honestly. and not just in secret-code clues in the pantry (lolest thing i noticed re: the pantry on this viewing was the little stack of snacks jack puts together after he's been locked in there, yelled GO CHECK IT OUT! HEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHE, etc.,: packet of oreos and some peanut butter. they should have put him in the meat locker scatman crothers demonstrates at the beginning and had him just tear into a raw ham.) jack's a blue-collar white guy with cultured aspirations who's feeling humiliated economically (SHOVELING OUT DRIVEWAYS, WORK IN A CAR WASH -- ANY OF THAT APPEAL TO YOU? -- this important+telling line comes right after probably the pinnacle of the OTT Jack LOLs, which is when he says IT IS JUST SO TYPICAL OF YOU TO START THIS UP NOW... JUST WHEN I AM REALLY IN TO MY WORK), and furthermore resents that what he at least hopes was an accident with his son's arm a few years ago has made it necessary for him to stop drinking and be really contrite and feel further unmanned, and is seduced on one level by an Evil Supernatural Power, in the form of a bunch of well-dressed whites having a perpetual power-drenched cocktail party in a luxury hotel built on a conquered graveyard (nice touch: "i believe they actually had to fend off a few indian attacks while they were building it!"); and on another level just by the ability, up there in the snow, to really show his family who's boss. he gets drunk on this nasty fantasy of privilege that's built on bones, and when the hotel needs to spur him on it suggests to him that he's not Man enough to do his job and that his son feels safer around an n-word than around his father. all that stuff's there even tho it's secondary; it's good reinforcement around the domestic psychodrama.

<3 the performances across the board, too. duvall is a total martyr; she spends the entire second half of the movie working in discrete, successive shades of panic. (she turns out to be super competent and nervy, but how sad is the part where she's had the presence of mind to bring the baseball bat downstairs but is so scared she can't remember what she wants to talk to her husband about?) jack reverts to his roger corman days, but without restraint; it's hilarious. (although morbz otm upthread singling out for warmth/depth the scene where he wakes from his nightmare, the last time in the movie he's halfway lucid.) finally, scatman crothers gets "larry, just between you and me, we got a very serious problem with the people taking care of the place. they turned out to be completely unreliable assholes."

anyway, rank this wherever you like amongst kubrick as long as it's above a clockwork orange.

I said on some other thread that I think Duvall's amazing in the second half. She's even more impressive when I try to imagine what it must have been like to work with Kubrick on one side and Nicholson on the other--not a lot of oxygen in the room.

booming post, dlh

and is seduced on one level by an Evil Supernatural Power, in the form of a bunch of well-dressed whites having a perpetual power-drenched cocktail party in a luxury hotel built on a conquered graveyard

oh yes this is a great observation. and actually jibes pretty neatly with something I've been pondering about Eyes Wide Shut lately...there's this almost Pynchonian "them" at work in Kubrick's movies...

and is seduced on one level by an Evil Supernatural Power, in the form of a bunch of well-dressed whites having a perpetual power-drenched cocktail party in a luxury hotel built on a conquered graveyard

yeah, this is reinforced when grady-the-waiter, in the washroom, drops the n bomb in front of jack and nicholson repeats it immediately w/out pause or distaste

also, looking at imdb quotes from the movie, this kinda leaps out in light of dlh's great post:

[Past guests at the Overlook Hotel]
Stuart Ullman: Four presidents, movie stars...
Wendy Torrance: Royalty?
Stuart Ullman: All the best people.