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to echo a question i had on the video game thread, when did drow elf chicks somehow become fetishized? Everquest? The Baldur's Gate series?

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

A suggestive illustration in "The Monster Manual" or "Fiend Folio"?

Nemo (JND), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

When was the first appearance of Drizzt Do'Urden (or rather when was his origin trilogy published)?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread just reminded me how bad the Saturday morning D&D cartoon used to be. One of the true injustices of my youth.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Aw, I loved that cartoon.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Granted, I can't remember a nanosecond of it now, but it was better than stuff like The Gummi Bears.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

When was the first appearance of Drizzt Do'Urden (or rather when was his origin trilogy published)?

Google says the Icewind Dale trilogy started in '88 and the Dark Elf trilogy started in '90.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

GUMMI BEARS
BOUNCING HERE AND THERE
AND EVERYWHERE
HIGH ADVENTURES BEYOND COMPARE
THEY ARE THE GUMMI BEAARRRRS

THEY ARE THE GUMMI BEAAARRRRRRRS

also, the ranger and the barbarian kid from the D&D cartoon show up in Baldur's Gate 2, as you no doubt know...

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait. They do?????

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Are they the kids who ask you to get them beer and swords?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

no, but their images are on the wall of the Adventurer's Mart. The game comments that they were soon thereafter eaten by the god Tiamat.

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

DRAGONLANCE.

BUT STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE DEATHGATE CYCLE.

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Has a taking sides between Chronicles and Legends been done yet? I take Chronicles, for how sheerly over the top the time travel trip/Raistlin in hell bit is.

lysander spooner, Friday, 5 November 2004 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Uh...that's Legends. (And I agree with you, it's also a more organic story, for lack of a better word -- the Chronicles were a bunch of playtest campaigns written up into an instatrilogy.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

lysander just got nerdserved!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Nerdserved! Uh, duh, Legends, you're right, Ned. To what you said I'd also add that the wider cast of the campaigny Chronicles isn't as compelling as the more focused narrative about the twins, Crysania, and Tasslehoff. I may have to go dig me out some of those books now that I'm thinking about them.

lysander spooner, Friday, 5 November 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
This is truly a wonderful thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Heads up, freaks -- this is from Hickman's newsletter, which somehow I found myself on:

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SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: FANTASY DUO WEIS AND HICKMAN TO FORGE NEW TRILOGY

Authors Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, co-creators of the DRAGONLANCE® world, will pen new adventures

May 19, 2005 (RENTON, Wash.) ÿÿ Two of the premiere voices in American fantasy fiction have just agreed to write a new hardcover fantasy trilogy titled The Dark Chronicles for Wizards of the Coast, Inc. In this new venture, longtime masters of the fantasy genre Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman will return to Dragonlance, the sprawling magical world they first wrote together over two decades ago. This marks the first time Weis and Hickman have collaborated on a project since the 2002 release of Dragons of a Vanished Moon, the final book in The New York Times best-selling War of Souls trilogy.

The Dark Chronicles trilogy will return to the period of the original Dragonlance Chronicles and will feature some of the more popular heroes and villains from that era. The first book in The Dark Chronicles is currently planned for release in summer 2006.

"The Dark Chronicles tells the tales that took place between the chapters of the original Dragonlance Chronicles," said Hickman. "It is intended to mesh smoothly with the established story millions have come to know and love."

Added Weis, "Many of the characters whom fans have come to know intimately over the last twenty years will again come to life in the new series. You can expect to see all the original Heroes of the Lanceÿÿespecially Flint, Tanis, Kitiara, Lord Soth, Tasslehoff, and, of course, the brothers Caramon and Raistlin Majere."

"We're very excited about Margaret and Tracy's newest collaboration. They're a dynamic writing team, and their energy and imagination has earned them a tremendously popular following, both collectively and independently. You don't have to be a Dragonlance fan to like their books, since they know how to deliver a great adventure story," said Peter Archer, Associate Publisher at Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

In addition to the new series, Margaret and Tracy will collaborate on a Dragonlance novella, which will feature several characters from their new trilogy. The novella will appear in Here Be Dragons, an oversize trade book scheduled to release in June 2006. That book will also include stories set in different fantasy-themed universes by New York Times best-selling novelist R.A. Salvatore, and by authors Keith Baker and Scott McGough.

About Weis and Hickman

Since their co-publication of The Dragonlance Chronicles in 1985, Weis and Hickman have jointly authored eleven Dragonlance books, four of which have appeared on The New York Times best-seller list. Both authors also publish independently while remaining committed to the Dragonlance world and fans of their collective efforts.

Margaret Weis's high profile career as one of fantasy's most prominent authors spans two decades. She has written numerous novels and short stories set in the fantasy world of Krynn. Most recently she has completed the third novel in the Dragonvarld trilogy for TOR, Master of Dragons. She is now working on the second novel in the Dark Disciple Trilogy, Iron and Amber, set to release in February 2006 from Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Tracy Hickman, co-creator of the Dragonlance world, has been publishing fantasy novels for over twenty years. His first two solo novels, Requiem of Stars and The Immortals released in the spring of 1996 from Bantam press. Tracy and his wife Laura released Mystic Warrior (2004) and Mystic Quest (2005), their first joint novels in The Bronze Canticles, a trilogy from Warner Books. Their third novel in that series, Mystic Empire is expected in 2006.

About Wizards of the Coast

Since its founding two decades ago, Wizards of the Coast's Book Publishing division has produced hundreds of titles that have sold millions of copies in over 16 languages.

For more information about books by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, scheduled author appearances, or other novels published by Wizards of the Coast, Inc., please visit wizards.com/books.

Wizards of the Coast, Inc., a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. (NYSE:HAS), is a publisher of fantasy series fiction with numerous New York Times bestsellers. For more information, visit Wizards of the Coast's website at wizards.com.

Wizards of the Coast and Dragonlance are trademarks of Wizards of the Coast in the U.S.A. and other countries. Copyright 2005 Wizards.

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THE REST OF THE STORY

As those who follow the history of Dragonlance are aware, the original Chronicles series was drastically cut for editorial and production purposes when it was originally written. 'Dragons of Autumn Twilight' was originally to have ended where 'Dragons of Winter Night' began ÿÿ at the southern gates of the dwarven kingdom. Nearly half of the original story was, therefore, missing ... until now.

Rather than rewrite what, for many fans, has become a classic of fantasy literature, Margaret and I decided to produce a new trilogy ÿÿ the Dark Chronicles ÿÿ that told those parts of the original Chronicles that were lost 'between the pages' of that wonderful published work.

This is the announcement which I have been anxious to bring to you ÿÿ and you are probably hearing it here first though it was announced to the trade publications earlier. While we quickly came to agreement on this project some months ago, working out all the details took longer than any of us expected. I must admit that I have been holding off on releasing the newsletter in anticipation that the announcement would be made any day now ÿÿ which means that the newsletters have been held back for a few months. Now that the announcement can be made, we are all back on track. Both Margaret and I are delighted to be working together once more. Most exciting for Laura and I is the fact that the writing schedule for The Dark Chronicles will not impact either the writing or the release schedule for Laura and my 'Bronze Canticles' series.

For those of you who guessed that we were about to announce other projects such as a Dragonlance film or the final completion of the Starshield series, know that we are still pursuing those possibilities as well. For now, however, join with us in celebrating our return to the story we have so long loved and which we look forward now to sharing, at last, with all of you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

OMFG. This thread is....childhood, basically.

but there were two separate sex scenes in the second book and you're conflating them. (The first one in the forest involved a regular ol' elf and an 'elf' who was really a silver dragon, the second Tanis and Kitiara

The second one was outrageous (at the time): One boot, two boot!! (or whatever the "game" was) I re-read that shit so many times. Boner city.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

You blessed nerd. (As were we all.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I must read these books again.....as soon as I'm done with Mr Norrell and Jonathan Strange.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess that last cable bill was higher than Tracy was expecting!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

this is good news, ned. it will be nice to read that bit they cut out. but i don't know how they can develop a coherent narrative that'll last a trilogy out of what's left out of chronicles. i can think of other significant chunks that just got left out, or maybe told as poems, like when they fight the arctic dragon (or do they just find it frozen in a glacier . . . jeez, it's been long) and get a dragonlance from him. i guess there's all the battles too toward the end when they're focusing instead on tanis in the dark queen's temple. maybe the green man will get played up, too, wandering town to town.

steve hise, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I was so in love with Raistlin. These books were tres cool. Even after reading them 10+ times each. My favourite one had a dark blue cover.

miele kitty (miele), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

everyone has wood for Raistlin, i don't get it.

i was always a Tasslehoff disciple. had so much love for the be-topknotted one.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

That's *almost* like saying, "Oh, Jar Jar's the best character in all six Star Wars movies."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

that hurts SO MUCH.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha. I had a friend as a kid who was kender-obsessed. He made a walking stick with a sling on it and everything.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

so did i... i wanted blue leggings too, but i knew that my brother would call me a nancy.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you use it as an excuse to shoplift?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i wasn't brave enough, but i did pick up anything slightly interesting i found in the street for a good 6 month period.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Amazing! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i want an apology for that Jar Jar comment. it's way off the mark.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Hehehehe. I apologize but jeez louise, you didn't get tired of him going, "What's this do? I didn't mean it! Do you mind if I pull this?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

obviously not. he was like Kender Idol to me.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Now I'm imagining Simon giving him a beatdown. AND I LOVE IT I LOVE IT.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I apologize but jeez louise, you didn't get tired of him going, "What's this do? I didn't mean it! Do you mind if I pull this?"

Ew Ned, NO KENDER PORN.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

To heck with you! YOU'RE the one who came up with Taz Takes a Tentacle upthread!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

And I was immediately sorry! WHERE IS YOUR REMORSE???

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

...are you sure you want to know? Or don't you already?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
I have just bought 'The Second Generation', which I have been guiltily eyeing up in Forbidden Planet for months, for my winter comfort reading. I am 28. Am I in for major disappointment and crushing of my tender 14-year-old memories of the original six books?

Mog, Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh. I wonder if there are any amusing reviews about this on Amazon...

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

It gets four and a half stars on Amazon. As reviewed by a few barely literate teenagers.

Mog, Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

any quotes that REALLY stand out?

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

DRAGONLANCE

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i still stand by Tas.
you fucking savages.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Another year, more dragons.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link


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