loving this thread
― i am not an idle hunter-gatherer, i am a scientist (rrrobyn), Sunday, 23 November 2008 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link
top gun = documentary on fags in the air force
lmao
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Sunday, 23 November 2008 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck that this is a navy movie
― TOMBOT, Sunday, 23 November 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 24 November 2008 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link
30 years old!
― mookieproof, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAopLTK4qVs
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
the meisterwerke of cinematic giant thomas cruise mapother iv
― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 May 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
how did it get so gay?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/how-did-top-gun-become-so-gay/
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
Manly men, being men.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
Funny thing: when the movie came out, my dad had just served a short stint on an aircraft carrier as part of that year's RIMPAC exercise (thus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_RIMPAC ) involving contact with the submarines, which would lead to him being chief of staff for an admiral in a carrier group shortly thereafter (keep in mind his career was mostly submarines, so this was somewhat atypical, but given both subs and carriers are based out of San Diego, it was an easy temporary shift since he'd long since built up his career cred -- would have been an officer for almost 25 years at this point -- and after that he was the exec to the admiral in charge of the entire sub base at Point Loma). Anyway: we all went to see it as a family, and since we were Navy, living in San Diego etc., we were mostly watching it for the locations and the verisimilitude as much as would be allowed. Dad essentially became our own private narrator about a lot of the flight sequences, the crew and procedures involved on deck and so forth and that was totally fine, I think we were mostly bored with the story! Our conclusion was that Anthony Edwards was the one who actually acted most like a real Navy guy down to the mustache.
But as for it being gay as hell -- nah, no conscious thought about that at ALL, not that I think we would have even talked about it to begin with. I remember being amused by the volleyball sequence but mostly because I thought it just dragged on a bit and the song was goofy as hell.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
a service that doesn't think twice about calling an exercise 'rimpac' may have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to homoerotic overtones tbf
― pokemon go speed run (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
Submarines, as is well known, are long, hard, and full of seamen, so.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
Chinese fighter flies inverted over US Air Force jet
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/china-us-jets-intercept/index.html
they've been studying the classics i see
― goole, Friday, 19 May 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
Whole movie? Nothing but a strip volleyball match.
Val Kilmer is indeed reprising his role as Iceman in 'Top Gun 2'. https://t.co/dODdP3hyzY— Collider (@Collider) June 6, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
Cruise’s Oblivion filmmaker Joseph Kosinski is in the director’s chair.
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
He's no Tony Scott, and I mean that sincerely.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
otm
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
KERSPLODE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSqVVswa420
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
glad to see they have a scene were they're on the beach oiled up like turkish wrestlers
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
i will definitely watch this
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
Can we get a Broken Arrow sequel next? Christian Slater isn't doing much these days.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
oh hell yes, when you've got movies like Val Kilmer in them, you can't lose!
I plan on setting aside a weekend next summer to watch this, the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and my VHS copy of Prefontaine, and call it my weekend of speed.
― del griffith, Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
probably don't need to explicitly mention it, but I will also be consuming a vigorous quantity of methamphetamine while watching the movies
― del griffith, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
I had to look it up, but apparently there is no maximum age to be a military pilot. Would have been awesome, though, if this was about Maverick as a commercial pilot.
(Unrelated, just watched Easy Rider last night, and a lot of young Nicholson's smily mannerisms reminded me of Cruise's!)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
weird to think Tom Cruise is now three years older than Jack Nicholson was when A Few Good Men was released.
― omar little, Friday, 19 July 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
Oh my god !!!Beach volley, flight jacket and... F14 (how’s that even possible !? CGI, eh?) !!!I’m a 10 yo boy again...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 05:20 (four years ago) link
i was unenthused for about a nanosecond and rhen i saw Maverick and jets and :Dalso Jennifer Connelly! Ed Harris looks like a dusty old sphinx in that opening shot, it looks like he’s made of sand! Bad makeup/lighting job there :(
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 July 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link
Yeah J. Connelly is a great surprise !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link
Harris is only 11 years older than Cruise!
― Simon H., Friday, 19 July 2019 05:57 (four years ago) link
man tom cruise is really dead-set on dying during a stunt on a movie shoot isn’t he
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 July 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link
five the people what they want
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 19 July 2019 09:44 (four years ago) link
My main issue with this is that F/A18s are nowhere near F14s in the cool/badass aspect.Since they CGIed ONE F14 apparently, they should have gone all the way !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
didn't know we had fans of Reaganaut Propaganda Shit here
will this one go full Trumpist? ie the big final bombing of [Whatever]istan will be recalled at he last minute.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
rmde
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
Tom Skerritt is still around, why isn't he in this thing? Or Kelly McGillis? Or Anthony Edwards as Cruise's ghost friend who gives him advice?
On the other hand, Manny Jacinto is in it, which is good. On the other other hand, Miles Goddamned Teller is in it.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
Maybe the twist is that in this one Tom Cruise is a Russian agent.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
america, russia, whatever. maverick's only in it for the jazz
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
the original top gun is a fairly apolitical movie considering. sure, the impetus for the movie is the sort of fashy enthusiasm for gleaming new technological wonders of warfare sort of à la the italian futurists, but the actual meat of the piece is essentially a sports movie - with simpson/bruckheimer and scott's days of thunder being essentially a poor redo of top gun with the action transposed to the world of nascar.
the whole competitive, locker-room grab-assing aspect of top gun is pure fiction - irl the "top gun" course has no winner and is not a competition. the technical advisor on the picture pointed out that they didn't have their classes take place in air-hangars and there wasn't a culture of broing down in the locker room after training but simpson and bruckheimer wanted more excuses to show the planes and more excuses to see tom and val in their underwear.
there's something very high school about the whole thing. there's also nary a mention of ideology or even any half-baked geopolitical rationale for the skirmishes that take place in the movie. the enemy are clearly of the state socialist kind, with their MIGs with a star painted on them. it's also extremely homoerotic and kitschy
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 19 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
Nah, Chinese:
There’s a new Top Gun movie coming out. And Maverick is wearing the same leather jacket - only this time it’s Communist Party of China-approved, so the Japanese and Taiwanese flag patches are gone (screenshot on right is from the new trailer)... pic.twitter.com/gUxFNFNUKX— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) July 19, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 July 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
in which miles teller sports a moustache in tribute to his dead dad, anthony edwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLZQfnFyelTBOQ15kmHSgEbdjzLMWzZpL7&time_continue=25&v=g4U4BQW9OEk&feature=emb_title
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
my apologies to sic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flURw76_UCU
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
ok, i haven't watched top gun in a long time, but this is how i remember the best scene:
goose has died. tom cruise is in a hot steamy bathroom back at the base. he’s in his underwear and his head hangs down over the sink. he’s defeated. the captain walks in and sees Maverick looking so down. the captain takes a piss. Maverick starts complaining and whining about life. The captain listens for a bit. then he says, “goddammit Maverick.” and Maverick looks stung but still keeps his head down like a dick. “Don’t tell me about losing Goose. Don’t tell me I didn’t love him. We all loved Goose. GODDAMMIT MAVERICK!” and he pushes Maverick hard in the chest. Maverick’s mad now. they’re both mad. the Captain storms out and Maverick looks at the door closing, breathing hard now.
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
now i'm going to try to find that scene and compare
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
hm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmAmb36jafA
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
top gun maverick is beautifully ridiculous and i enjoyed it quite a lot
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 05:36 (one year ago) link
the kilmer scene was gr8
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 05:38 (one year ago) link
I never saw Top Gun and am doing an oscar sweep, figured fuckit i might as well see the original if i have to see the sequel.
I'm sure everyone already knows this as I'm forty years late to the party BUT: better than average direction that makes the aerial sequences comprehensible and enjoyable, Cruise is good and there's solid acting throughout (with the exception of McGillis who seems drugged), but holy shit this script though.Predictable and dogshit dumb, daddy-do-you-love-me-now, adolescent small dick power fantasy tech fetishism at its worst. it is also super sweaty and homoerotic as all get out. And the music and score sucks!
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2023 07:41 (one year ago) link
how dare ufaltermeyer score rules, forks drools
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2023 08:17 (one year ago) link
let the record show that my chin is dry
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2023 08:25 (one year ago) link
How did you feel when goose died? Maverick takes it pretty hard
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 February 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link
Eric, you've got to stop thinking of yourself as one of the hundred neediest cases
There isn't enough to keep me as busy as I should be, really
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 February 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
This absolutely belongs in a different thread but something I've been thinking about while flipping through the "how old is ILX" thread and writing in two dozen others: i'm eying middle age with a fairly well-rounded life to show for it. Most of you don't actually know me but I am, by literally anyone's standards, a remarkably well-culturally travelled, overeducated, curious, thoughtful guy. That's not to toot my own horn or act like I'm any better than whoever you are; those are just statements of fact. Yay me!
this is the funniest thing that has been posted on ilx in years
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:52 (one year ago) link
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link
if anyone thinks I’m a dolt (a word no one uses imo!) they’re keeping it from me. but I don’t think the reaction here was without precedent when people were talking about how a tv show hit them in personal, close to home ways and forks bombed in to shit on it without reading the recent posts (Bad Sisters iirc) without context gives that precedent. forks, you have maybe inadvertently been threadshitting for a whileI feel like things are pretty honest these days in these parts and internet communication is still messy but has a lot of prior work to contemplate. the initial premise here was weirdly flawed. I was too young to watch Top Gun as a kid, but it was culturally omnipresent. I held myself as above the Bruckheimer school and perceived imperialist war machine crap for years, and also only watched the original in full a week before watching the sequel. I guess I’m a unicorn! But I seldom am, so it’s probably millions of us. if anything, the past couple years have taught me you can do things guilt-free outside of the perception of imaginary cultural arbitrators. you can watch a dumb thing that makes you feel nice before bed. you can realize having the perfect playlist is dogshit compared to just sitting in a park or quietly making pottery. there are no points to be traded in when you die, no one is going to squeak out their last gasp saying they wish they’d watched that obscure but acclaimed in small circles movie
― mh, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link
This disagreement over the 2022 Top Gun Sequel has striking parallels with another disagreement over an Anglo-Irish Treaty
― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link
is there significant space between forks being wrong about a movie and "threadshitting"
yes
is engaging with him strongly on the former good
is just flinging out the latter ok
no
is the point of the whole exercise to be able to disagree and entertain ourselves- id have said so
perhaps im wrong
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 07:14 (one year ago) link
honestly I think I could have diffused this situation had I pointed out "furtermore" soon as I read it but was too in my cups/beside myself at the time, anyways thank you for that
have not seen either top guns but I suspect everyone is otm in their own special way, I do think it is bullshit that kelly mcgillis wasn't involved on account of the crime of...being an old lady, we can't all look like jennifer connolly, or tom cruise who is older than my dad yet looks younger than me, somehow
― Florin Cuchares, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 08:44 (one year ago) link
He eats placenta for breakfast.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link
is just flinging out the latter okno
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 10:00 (one year ago) link
Watch that much TV
if you dont care about the hot dog sequel you are wrong
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 10:14 (one year ago) link
I had a hot dog the other day for the first time in about 16 years, it was fine
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 10:15 (one year ago) link
Aren't we finally over shit stirring and ad hominem and snark and unfocused aggression and derision and bad faith readings of one another's jotted off texts?
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link
to clarify, I don't think there was any threadshitting in this thread
you have to stay very continent while in the Top Gun thread or things get real bad when you do that 180 degree inversion after bombing the undisclosed enemy country
― mh, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
it seemed weird to me that they were bombing Norway in that film
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link
i hope you'll stay, forks. i hope i didn't add to the bad feelings with what i said upthread - i was just trying to be funny.
i don't understand pop culture or really criticism in general, even after 20 years on this board, so i try to stay out of the serious discussions about it. if i were the millionth person to talk shit on something like the MCU (the massive popularity of which alienates me as a human being) it would be a complete train wreck. similarly, i am completely incapable of talking about something like top gun. i enjoy reading everyone else's takes though
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
(and even then, now i re-read what i posted and am afraid that it will be misunderstood and people will hate me for it. i am not sitting on a throne judging MCU and pop culture; i am a bird that just flew into a window, again)
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
The Oscar for Best Sound goes to...'Top Gun: Maverick' #Oscars #Oscars95 pic.twitter.com/zog6ZAvNjf— The Academy (@TheAcademy) March 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 March 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link
Finally watched Maverick last nite... it was seriously one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen!! If I were a screenwriter, I feel like I would have been embarrassed to even pitch most of the plot points; let alone write them down; let alone put them in the actual movie!
FWIW, I don't even like the first Top Gun that much (re-watched that one recently, as well) – but this made it look like The f'in Godfather!
Even the best aspects (IMO) of the first movie – terrific aerial photography; making air combat feel "exciting" – weren't really present here, because it felt so totally unrealistic (I don't know how "realistic" Top Gun actually was, but it at least feels that way). Once the actual dogfighting finally happens in Maverick, the movie has long since entered the realm of pure fantasy. (Also, with regard to the actual mission itself – do they think no one remembers Star Wars??)
Anyway, kind of shocked this was so widely loved – I feel like I have a good tolerance for "dumb fun," but this wasn't really "fun" (beyond laughing at it)!
― chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Sunday, 26 March 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
I can't stand the first one, even the flying sequences.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
the empire lost in star wars
― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 26 March 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link
which was also, come to think of it, pure fantasy!
― Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 26 March 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
Yeah, it was good fantasy!
― chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Sunday, 26 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
well i wont be disagreeing with a word of that pan obv
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 March 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link
obv
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 March 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link