Throbbing Gristle: RFI

did anyone go to the london show?

Looks like it may have been their last, they have split up again

from twitter :

@chris_carter_ Chris Carter
⚡ ⚡ ⚡ we are about to make a SIGNIFICANT ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THROBBING GRISTLE ⚡ ⚡ ⚡

NOOOO they're supposed to be playing gy!be ATP in December :(

Throbbing Gristle official statement:

In the evening 27th October T.G. members and their associated managements received two emails from Genesis P-Orridge stating s/he was no longer willing to perform in Throbbing Gristle.

Cosey, Peter & Chris are therefore forced to understand that currently Throbbing Gristle has now ceased activities again as a live entity.

Therefore, and with deepest apologies, T.G. must cancel their scheduled performance at Archa Theatre, in Prague, Czech Republic on 30th October, it being too short notice to offer an alternative set.

In order not to further disappoint fans of the old quartet, and with the kind support of the associated event producers, Cosey, Peter & Chris will perform live under the name "X-TG" at the currently sold out show at Arena Del Sole, Bologna, Italy on 2nd November, & at Casa Musica, Porto, Portugal on 5th November.

We hope fans will appreciate and enjoy this new project and the trio is looking forward to performing exciting new and radical electronic musics together.

Full refunds are available at the point of purchase if required.

X-TG hope to be able to come to play in Prague very soon .

END

this has been online at the prague venue website for 2 hours now, so the word is already out...

So they're playing sans-gen at the next couple of shows, but i'm pissed off as i already have my hotel booked and travel arrangements for prague tomorrow....

doubt the atp thing will happen tho..

Curiouser and curiouser - here's a statement from Gen:

GENESIS BREYER P-ORRIDGE – HAS NOT QUIT TG !

Dear Friends,

We have seen and heard various inaccurate, erroneous, even sometimes libelous speculations about why we felt compelled to drop out of the current Throbbing Gristle tour. As a result we intend to address these matters in full as soon as possible. We hope that what we state now, and later, will be clear, will not fan the flames of destructive gossip, will not seem negative and will reduce an somewhat dramatic situation into a simpler story. We want to make it clear right now that we did not, and have no wish to quit TG. Obviously there is more involved than just that simple statement. Personally, at this point of my life, my position is that the inner workings and dynamics of any band, but especially of TG, are as intimate, unique and most of all complex as they are within any family. Unfortunately, even at the level TG occupy in popular culture, band business becomes potentially everyone’s business. We all know the internet has amplified the speed of distribution of “information” almost as fast as it has accelerated the decline of accuracy worldwide. We have no interest in pointing fingers (or is it claws?) at various people or sites and accusing them of letting the cat out of the bag. Bickering is never attractive, not one on one nor within the realms of an ever expanding media fueled by smart phone technologies and laptops. As soon as we have composed a written version of what series of events we believe led to my feeling unable to remain part of THIS short tour by the re-grouped TG that feels acceptable we will post it here.

smoke screen

http://www.factmag.com/2010/11/25/throbbing-gristles-peter-sleazy-christopherson-dies-aged-55/

:(

Aww RIP Sleazy.

Did "X-TG" make it to Italy? That story seems to suggest not.

RIP

if he died in the midst of beefing w/ Gen then that is sad upon sad

started a new thread for this... He deserves it...

RIP dude

whoa they're doing double-CD versions of the first four albums with extras on the 2nd discs... would love to get more detailed tracklisting if anybody knows.

Yesssssssss. I was just thinking they needed badly to do something like this. As long as the second disc isn't just modern live stuff.

Each release in this 'Time Capsule' series, comes with an additional disc of selected TG live performances culled from our TG24 archive recordings. They are selected to represent TG live performances specific to the original release year of each album.

I'd be surprised if there was any original-era live stuff left in the archives that hasn't already seen an official release, but let's see.

it'll be from the 24 Hours of collection i assume from that press release. it's the internet age, it wouldn't kill somebody to make that whole set commercially available again surely?

that's pretty cool. i've listened to some of that 24 hours set and there is some incredible stuff.

YES!

The new reissues sound ~sublime~

Just listening to DOA 3rd & Final now, it sounds fucking great. I'm not sure whether this unmasks the original as a horribly bad pressing, or that it actually improved this much, but this reissue sounds so much wider in scope, so much deeper. There's bass-y sounds on here I never even noticed before on the originals!

I am gonna buy the hell out of all these reissues.

Really? Shit. I passed on DOA because I got a nice second hand vinyl copy recently. Hoping to get my Heathen Earth and 20 Jazz Funk Greats soon though. Sooooo looking forward to getting the latter on vinyl now you write this though.

Well I don't know what to tell you (and congrats on your vinyl copy regardless!), but this just sounds... amazing. There's a depth I haven't heard on the original vinyl pressings, it sounds so much more spacious. Apologies if that sounds vague, don't know how else to describe it, but it sounds so much 'richer'. At long last.

Hey are you talkin' vinyl reissue or the CD?

Yeah, I recall that the vinyl reissues had appeared (and went, apparently) some months ago.

2nd Annual Report CD and vinyl were listed in the Forced Exposure update I got this morning...

The vinyl reissues came out last week. I know because I bought the lot.

I meant the cd's btw

oh. I thought you were speaking vinyl.

Still waiting for the vinyls to arrive, but can't imagine them being any less great than the cd's tbh

Okay, so yet another reissue series happening:

Throbbing Gristle and Mute announce a series of reissues, set to start on the 40th anniversary of their debut album release, The Second Annual Report.

On November 3, 2017 The Second Annual Report, presented as a limited edition white vinyl release in the original packaging and also on double CD, and 20 Jazz Funk Greats, on green vinyl and double CD, will be released. Accompanying these releases will be The Taste Of TG: A Beginner’s Guide to Throbbing Gristle with an updated tracklisting that will include “Almost A Kiss” (from 2007’s Part Two: Endless Not). This will be the first time The Taste Of TG is available on vinyl and will be presented on double red vinyl alongside a CD and digital release.

November’s anniversary releases will be followed by further catalog releases in January and April 2018.

January 26, 2018
D.o.A. The Third And Final Report
Heathen Earth
Part Two: Endless Not

April 27, 2018
Mission Of Dead Souls
Greatest Hits
Journey Through A Body
In The Shadow Of The Sun

2017 saw Throbbing Gristle’s catalog available on streaming services for the first time. This was the initial stage of Mute releasing the band’s entire classic catalog physically and digitally. Mute and Throbbing Gristle will continue the reissues series, creating previously unreleased box sets and making available long out-of-print and important pieces of work.

Not seeing anything whether this is just a straight replication of the previous 2-CD reissues a few years back. Which I'm holding onto, obviously.

yeah I really don't get this, those 2CDs from 2011 are definitive IMO

that being said I'm curious as to what extra tracks might be in that second batch

It looks like the 2011 are OOP? They're pretty expensive on Discogs/Amazon etc

oh well if this is just a straight repress that makes more sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AOc0VL7L7I

All you American politicians who lie down in front of wrecked cars. . . .

Shit, which song is that?

Talk of bands as dogs has reminded me of the episode of the ITV sitcom "Only When I Laugh" when Figgis put money on a greyhound called Throbbing Gristle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87FfKh5JeAk

https://thequietus.com/articles/30303-chris-carter-bakers-dozen-favourite-albums-throbbing-gristle

Nice Baker's Dozen by Chris. The accompanying pieces are full of interesting tidbits, like this one on an amazing triple bill that never was (from the The Man Machine entry)

Fast forward 28 years… while Throbbing Gristle were recording in Berlin in 2006 and our manager took us to see this enormous dilapidated old power station that was being converted into a new music venue, it was to become the Kraftwerk, which is German for power station. A plan was hatched between our Throbbing Gristle manager and our former Chris & Cosey tour manager, who is also Kraftwerk's (the band) manager, to have a triple bill of Kraftwerk, Aphex Twin and Throbbing Gristle play on the opening night at Kraftwerk (the venue). The problem was that Genesis detested Kraftwerk (the band) and Aphex Twin. His favourite insult was to snarl “they’re nothing more than a laptop band”, it tiresomely became one of Gen’s favourite put-downs for electronic bands, well that and “they’re just knob twiddlers". It would've been an awesome night but Gen hated the notion of ’supporting’ Kraftwerk and Aphex Twin and completely nixed the idea and refused to be involved.

Cosey Fanni Tutti talking about Art Sex magic and things on Book Shambles as well as her forthcoming work on female pioneers including Delia Derbyshire which is why she was on the recent biography I assume
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1t8tBddehjYtfZqqUtb2NI?si=86cbeba00ace43b1

So Chris heard a bootleg cassette copy of Joe Meek's "I Hear a New World" in the late 60s? Far be it from me to say he might be telling porkies there but...

Ha, busted! I never realised until I looked it up just now that the original 60's release was a 7" and the album (actually a compilation then, right) only became available in the 90's. But since he lived just across the studio he maybe smooth talked someone into giving him a ropey mono tape ;)

to be fair he does say "tape", it could easily have been a reel

oh, whoops, no he does say "cassette", hmm

i have heard him talk about the joe meek tape multiple times previously so am gonna believe he had it.

TG is one of those bands that I've been meaning to really "get to" forever. Eventually.

(xp) In the late 60s though? When he was still a schoolboy? Could be a misprint/misquote.

Also, famously, there are no synthesizers on "Irrlicht".

In the late 60s though? When he was still a schoolboy?

no, i haven't heard him claim that so wonder if it is a misquote. i will ask him, some day.

gahhhhhh

Gen looking like an extremely ugly version of Mick Tucker from Sweet there.

... or Andy Scott, one of the two.