Britney Spears: Classic or Dud?

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Sorry Hurting I momentarily got you and Leavis mixed up because you were responding to my response to him.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 19 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I just point out that the original F.R. Leavis was the worst literary critic ever? And D.H. Lawrence is shite? K Thanx Bye.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 19 November 2004 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

STOP GETTING TIM FINNEY WRONG

And nobody knows what Britney sans Autotune sounds like.

Going by the live SNL 'I'm Not A (Real) Girl, Not Yet An Upgraded Sexbot' of 3 years ago, not too bad.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"I brought up post-marxism and deconstruction because these areas of critical thought have greatly undermined the stability of the sort of surface level ideological reading you seemed to be attempting. My point being, if we are going to bring ideology into this, let's do so properly."

What might be the broad outlines or the paragraph abstract for a "proper", non-surface ideological reading of Britney's songs?

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Hormones.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 19 November 2004 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i was just watching this entertainment program on chinese tv, which had a piece on western pop beauties. britney was one of them (alongside kylie, jessica simpson and christina [the host explained that christina isnt really a black person, it is just fake tan...]). anyway, it appears that in china, britney is called "xiao tian tian bu la ni" (little sweetie britney)!

then they had a segment on black pop beauties (beyonce, ashanti and then i stopped watching to post that britney trivia fact above).

not relevant to current focus of thread i know

lydia, Friday, 19 November 2004 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not certain whether to jokingly shout "racist!" or applaud you for stopping at Ashanti ;-).

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 19 November 2004 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link

hah, after posting that, i did run back down to catch the rest of it. they had alicia keys (agree), kelly rowland (wtf) and brandy (prettier a few yrs ago when she had the braids and own tv show).

lydia, Friday, 19 November 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Kelly has sass, but yeah, not so hot. Brandy needs to put weight back on her face.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 19 November 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Brandy needs to release "Sadiddy" as a single because it owns.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 19 November 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i looooooooooooooooooooveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee britneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy !

ahmed shagalampost, Friday, 19 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i get off on her dvd
she's so hot
"let me be ","cinderella"and "boombastic" and were masterpieces

britney, Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I just heard 'Toxic' on local radio. I thought it sounded OK in a way. The voice sounded more ethereal, more distant and distractedly airborne, than I have heard or noticed her voice being before.

the bellefox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
(This actually becomes sort of relevant about five minutes in.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RujDatFeb0&search=Sang%20Won%20Park

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 24 April 2006 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, my formative days.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 02:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"Toxic" is still boring.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

This was a good thread. Although I don't like reading threads where someone asks me to back up a statement I've made and then I never post anything to the thread after that.

Jonathan if you're still interested in reading involved dissections of pop ideology I can point you to numerous tedious (my fault mostly) threads on dissensus.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

her face

Surmounter, Friday, 13 March 2009 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i recently heard "toxic" for the first time in years and holy jesus has it got to be one of the best pop songs of the decade, if not ever.

samosa gibreel, Friday, 13 March 2009 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

True.

And Blackout is outrageously good.

Popture, Friday, 13 March 2009 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

We know!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I really really like "blackout" but couldn't give a shit about the latest album.

AleXTC, Friday, 13 March 2009 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

^^

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 13 March 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

you're missing out on some killer songs. it definitely has a few that aren't good. blackout didn't have that problem. but still, missing out.

Surmounter, Friday, 13 March 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

http://i36.tinypic.com/r0o3ef.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 27 September 2009 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Lies. (Maybe not.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 June 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

Her US chart history really is odd, I would have thought "I'm a Slave 4 U" and "Piece of Me" were top tens also

Josefa, Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:12 (four years ago) link

I love “Til the World Ends”

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link

listening to it now

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:34 (four years ago) link

what about "3"?

monotony, Thursday, 6 June 2019 06:45 (four years ago) link

Huh I thought “Slave 4 U” was a top 10 hit in the US. In Europe and LatinAmerica it definitely was. Was the video too much or got censored for American audiences?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:44 (four years ago) link

the "i'm a slave 4 u" video was really big on mtv. it was radio that didn't play it much compared to a lot of her other songs.

dyl, Friday, 7 June 2019 01:37 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

What is this #freebritney shyt?

Seems like fans reading too much into things?

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

Does the new song ("Swimming in the Stars") slap? I'm trying to decide.

I briefly got very excited in the final thirty seconds when it threatened to go drum & bass, but turns out it's the cruellest mirage ever.

Tim F, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link

beat the press by the butthole surfers sums up her material!

xzanfar, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link

she's no William Orbit, that's for true

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:29 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is0hVNZJTOU beat the press by the butthole surfers sums up her material!

xzanfar, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

So this NYT documentary on Hulu is something. The Y2K era paparazzi scene was even more vile than I remember.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXG28S8cAJU

Darin, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

I just discovered her Instagram (via an article around the doc and "Free Britney" phenomenon) -- it's a trip.

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

What is this #freebritney shyt?

Seems like fans reading too much into things?

this is that #freebritney shyt:

https://pitchfork.com/news/britney-spears-in-incendiary-hearing-remarks-calls-for-end-of-conservatorship/amp/

her full statement/plea/rant, very much worth reading, whether you’re a fan or not

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Sunday, 27 June 2021 08:09 (two years ago) link

free britney

fuck everyone else in this story

Left, Sunday, 27 June 2021 09:13 (two years ago) link

that’s fucked up

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:45 (two years ago) link

I reiterate fuck everyone except britney

Left, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:54 (two years ago) link

the why I assume includes a lot of misogyny and ableism

Left, Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:56 (two years ago) link

This is an absolute travesty.

treeship., Thursday, 1 July 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link

It is beyond terrifying that your rights can be taken away permanently after a mental health crisis.

treeship., Thursday, 1 July 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

I can't find the tweet I saw last night that delved into it a little more clearly, but apparently that Variety article from yesterday was just reporting on a ruling made in November 2020, before her testimony, and has a very misleading headline.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 July 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link


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