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the big 10 is a consortium not of ten but twelve more or less midwestern american schools -- the universities of wisconsin, illinois, indiana, iowa, michigan, minnesota, and, academically, chicago (which dropped out of all athletic competition decades ago); penn state, ohio state, and michigan state; purdue; and northwestern. the university of nebraska's joining next year to make 10 thirteen
i don't mean to define tassie's solitude as negative, but unrealistic. i am very painfully aware of how campuses can encourage students to seek solitude and even isolate them against their wills. again though something characteristic of madison, the school where lorrie teaches, is that such students are remarkably unusual. to create such a character, with no explanation, and for no apparent narrative gain, sacrifices a lot of what makes madison such an interesting experience for its students. i'm still surprised she'd portray a wisconsin campus as so generic, whether it's madison or not. in fact i put off reading the novel for a while somewhat intimidated by how her perspicuity might slash apart one of my alma maters
an example of an author who did get one of these big 10 campuses right is denis johnson. the stories in jesus' son set in iowa city (university of iowa) nail the midwestern desolation that creeps around the edge of that campus. there's nothing comparable atmospherically in a gate at the stairs, except maybe the snow? and it's much more artistically daring of johnson to try to render iowa city, since it's the home of the iowa writers workshop, the top writing program in the US, than it would have been of lorrie to try to give us a little of madison, not exactly, aside from her residence there, a node of american literary activity. why she didn't really try, i have no idea
― kamerad, Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I really liked the ridiculous gothic excesses of Gate At The Stairs, in fact I wanted it to be more excessive, the storyline with the parents wasn't as sinister as I'd hoped.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, between the revelations about the boyfriend and the couple tassie works for, and then her brother, she really piled it on. maybe she could have turned tassie into some stem cell experiment frankenstein who lives on cheese and beer and packers games
― kamerad, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
It does have some spectacular cringe moments though, she's fantastic at making you feel really embarassed for her characters.
Coffin scene and the boyfriend plot were poor though, and kind of unnecessary.
I've only read the latest one and Frog Hospital. Should get Anagrams at some point. Birds of America I've avoided because I have enough half-read short story collections as it is.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i couldn't finish birds of america. the smugness put me off. self-help is pretty good, though. the last story, "to fill," is lorrie being fantastic at making you feel embarrassed for her characters
― kamerad, Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Only read The Collected Stories...god, what a book. Picked up A Gate at the Stairs for £2 the other day, will have to wait till I finish my degree before I start it really.
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
three months pass...
But if you want something dark, shit, read People Like That Are the Only People Here.
― the pr00de abides (pr00de), Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:55 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
just got to this in birds of america...fuck it's so good
― johnny crunch, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
two months pass...
three months pass...
nine years pass...
two years pass...
knew right away that was from who will run the frog hospital
will be carrying paragraphs of that book with me forever
― ivy., Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:06 (four months ago) link