Doesn't FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS deserve its own thread?

fallout 2 has some Famous Star Trek Humor in it actually, and a lot of fans tend to downgrade the game for its excesses in that area. negative fan reaction is prob a big reason why it was made optional in NV. and yeah, im saving it for the 2nd playthrough

i see. if i get around to this i will not be selecting that stupid option then. knowing that they built in a content-changing humor on/off switch when bugs apparently went unfixed is not filling me with anticipation. it speak of a dis-unified development team and bad leadership, imo, but others have played and i haven't yet so eh

i don't remember if the humor in FO3 was fan-servicey, but i don't remember any of it being especially funny either...

xps

― goole, Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

ha, well, 2 things:

i. obsidian
ii. bug-fixing is a complicated problem solving process that is never truly finished; inserting some wacky monkey cheese jokes probably didn't take up a lot of dev time

personally yeah it's a little annoying but c'mon... we all grew up in the age of patches, this is de rigueur for a brand new PC game! none of it is gamebreaking (so far), it's just crashes and stuff.

(esp w stuff like hour long combat rounds as every bum in the game takes a turn running away from you)

haha yes

ugh

I swear I spent half the game time in FO2 in New Reno because every time you started a fight anywhere near the casinos, 50 homeless dudes would spend most of the time running back and forth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOt4ToY0CdU&feature=player_embedded

oh hell no

how is the combat in NV? also can you RUN?

i loved FO3 at first but soon got sick to death of VATS - can NV be played as a fps? deep down im hoping it'll turn out to be kinda like the Stalker series, with all the great side missions and great unforgiving combat system.

Im not sure how a combo of Borderlands and Fallout would go down but that seems to be the kind of VATS-less fps style I could see happening.

combat's wayyy better imo - the true iron sights are a great addition, and because of that i've barely touched VATS so far. sneaking and sniping is my tactic of choice. enemies are still bullet sponges (im playing on very hard btw) which is unfortunate because I really prefer shooters where one well-placed headshot = a kill no matter what. the ammo variety is great, AP bullets actually work, and the new guns are all awesome and make bethesda's weapons look retarded (it's really jarring when you equip say the 10 mm pistol and it's this weird clunky made up gun that doesnt fit in with anything else), reload animations are sick nasty too.

also the combat is pretty unforgiving - giant radscorps are like sherman tanks, and my friend (playing on same settings) who's gotten farther than me says the deathclaws are pretty much unkillable (yesss)

i love how far they went with the Roman detail wrt the Legion... if you listen to Mr. Vegas Radio or whatever he'll have a news story about a Legion commander ordering the decimation of his unit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(Roman_army)

thanks ptt, if this game can be played purely as a shooter that sounds great. i take it there's no run key though? shame as that always bugged the hell out of me on FO3

what do you mean by run key?

like sprinting?

like sprinting?

Whoops!

only thing close to sprint is moving without your weapon drawn.. its a little bit faster

soooo finally loaded this up, started playing, got about 45 minutes in and got my first freeze. rather than torture myself i'm going to just wait for the patch

the enemies in this one can strike from pretty far away. it's kind of annoying to be running away from someone who is like 15 feet away and tagging you with a knife.

i hope they're at least throwing the knife?

no.

oh thats not good

bugs so far today: got stuck between two crates that were seemingly stacked right next to each other. guess not. and then one where my fire button stopped working and my weapon would only fire when i exited out my pip boy menu. had a really fun vats experience where i just watched a gecko run at me in slow motion for a minute while my gun did nothing.

I havent had many bugs to report so far.. Only minor things. The more signifcant ones usually involve enemies doing dumb shit which allows me to kill them so Im not too mad at it...

I'm embarrassed to admit that like a fallout-crack fiend, despite being disgusted by the early crashes, I still played about 4 hours of this last night. I got down to Primm and cleared that shit out (took a couple reloads tho, I'm not in love with my character build atm). It's very familiar to F3, especially wrt the types of items you find lying around. I'm playing on hardcore which is actually kinda hard (gotta remember to tote around purified water and food) and led to one of my cooler Fallout experiences. Someone got a critical head shot on me while I was in the middle of clearing Primm and since stimpacks don't heal critical damage on hardcore I basically continued to fight with my head in poor condition (since I didn't want to run away and see a doctor). Every few minutes the screen went all blurry and shaky and static came up, which was a really cool way of indicating trauma and reminded me of the malaria mechanics in Far Cry 2. It's hard killing gangers when you can barely see the screen or aim your gun.

bought this :)

also, there's a patch already for this. not looked into it so i don't know which bugs its supposed to fix

yeah I just installed an update on xbox. its definitely out for pc..

Yeah, I always hope that when the gamemakers get interviewed that someone asks them straight out how easy it is to get under the hood and start fixing shit upon release. It's like, yeah, we all know it's going to be buggy when it comes out, we know your track record, but how easily can we get in there to start rewiring it?

I say yeah a lot.

the loading screes are starting to get on my fucking nerves...

otoh I just ran into a character from FO2!

yeah i wish they had shorter ones for shorter loading periods. maybe with different facts? or maybe it would be nice to be able to cycle through the facts instead of being forced to watch just one (or two when it is being glitchy)?

isn't it just the case that gamebryo as an engine is fundamentally flawed and even with the best will in the world probably couldn't be successfully bug tested at this point? this game was always going to be buggy as all hell, as was FO3. I know it's a bit lame and apologist but you kinda just have to accept that :/

I read that the hardcore requirements for drinking , healing etc differ depending on difficulty. is it possible to specify the difficulty of the 'hardcoreness' separate from the difficulty of the enemies? I don't like the idea of bullet sponge super mutants so would rather play on normal but at the same time I don't want to be able to go weeks without sleeping or drinking

was watching my mate play this last night. Is it the case that reading books now is only a temporary skill hike?

Magazines are a temporary bump; books are still permanent.

seems kinda silly that hardcore mode cripples you so realistically and effectively wrt injuries and weight and yet you can still "fast travel"

thank god for that. this gameworld is enormous

isn't it just the case that gamebryo as an engine is fundamentally flawed and even with the best will in the world probably couldn't be successfully bug tested at this point? this game was always going to be buggy as all hell, as was FO3. I know it's a bit lame and apologist but you kinda just have to accept that :/

― posting for godot (cozen), Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:18 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

This is very true. It's a remarkably bad engine in too many ways to count.

I cleared my cache this morning and it seems to help a little bit.. Maybe it was the beer I was drinking last night that made me want to punch my tv during all the load screens.

been playing today. one thing that strikes me is how much more spread out the map is, think i prefer f3 map.

i'm liking it though, it feels a heck of a lot easier so far and i'm kinda wishing i chose hardcore mode. i don't remember getting so much weaponry so early on in f3, also i'm managed to repair 3 weapons to 100% already - i don't quite understand how that should be possible?

fucking geckos

Sad that theres craps tables in the game but you cant actually play them. Roulette is so boring.

i enjoyed playing caravan but made a ton of money and it turns out that that can't buy happiness.

Hade my first hard freeze in the prison. Shot a dude, wouldn't let me shoot him again. Hard to hard reboot the PS3. Otherwise, I'm enjoying it except deathclaws are a bitch.

played loads today, done dozens of quests, but i've yet to come across any weapon parts to mod my guns with. ?

There's a night scope for the varmint gun for sale in the first town.

yeah thats not surprising is it - me missing something so obvious right at the start

(thanks)

I missed it at first - they aren't listed with the weapons but in misc. or something. Not a helpful place to put them.

so I just got this for my birthday. I haven't even finished Fallout 3 yet.

Casinos off the strip are true to life and offer shitty blackjack payouts - and if you destroy the house at blackjack you get asked to leave

ditto peter, i'm flipping back and forth between the two at the moment.

yeah I decided I'm just gonna play New Vegas as a completely different type of character from the one I have in FO3 and just play both concurrently

The only difference in my character is that i've not been all that arsed about karma in NV, stealing pretty much whatever i desired and if it was safe to do so.