rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

anyways, in an effort to stop this before it gets flamier; here's a site that drops a shitton of mixed bag promo and leaked tracks on a daily basis. It's kind of like getting on thirty mailing lists except it's zipped, there's a bunch of popupads and it's quasilegal at best.
http://www.dopehood.com/

i mean, you dont need to ask us -- ask the actual-fanbase wiz has. obviously hes doing something wale isnt

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:00 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

god forbid a music journalist do some music journalism (i know al was just asking in an armchair rhetorical way but obv i wasnt actually saying he needed to ask wiz's fanbase but that wiz's fanbase itself suggests maybe there is a major difference, as wale's entire career has been about struggling for a fanbase, but j0rdan is just being trolly iirc fwiw imo)

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:04 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That said, I agree with deej. I think wiz has a personality that is very easyy to connect to -- he's affable and his subject matter fits the "character" -- I agree that wale is more bland, also his strengths -- I guess stuff like the Seinfeld tape -- is something that is highly likely to be fetishized by journalists than and not really something That I think is going to build a significant fanbase. I think wale was "born into" press coverage, whereas wiz, largely, forced it

― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:07 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah see this is kinda what I was getting at to begin with -- Wale and Wiz have completely different images and fanbases and to a certain set of rap fan, including a lot of the people here, one is cool and one is totally lame, but to me they sound very similar and are mediocre in a lot of the same ways. but I guess instead of puncturing the conventional wisdom and questioning whether the lame Mark Ronsonite skinny jeans blog rapper and the tattooed weed smoking rapper are actually that different on an actual musical level yeah we can just circle back to oh the kids have spoken, 400 thousand twitter followers can't be wrong.

part of it might be that they're both from places without a strong 'regional rap identity' and both imo have these kind of annoying flat accents that sound awkward compared to NYC or southern rappers -- it's not a problem with all rappers from this part of the country, Philly rappers have their own sound and accent, nobody besides me really listens to Baltimore rappers but the good ones have their own sound, but to me D.C. doesn't and I guess maybe Pittsburgh doesn't either.

i ... dont think they have the same weaknesses? at all? are you really on some 'oooh skinny jeans' beanie sigel

'tattooed weed smoking rapper' -- wale, just like gucci mane & waka flocka flame!

on an actual musical level, the differences are really obvious? also wiz has made a handful of good songs & wale hasnt

musically, hes just more charismatic, which is the biggest difference imo. & makes up for wiz's biggest difficulties is that a bunch of his songs are really boring/bad/have lame beats & he doesnt have say currensy's lyrical depth to justify 1000 songs about how hes sleeping with & smoking up your girlfriend

but thats what makes a handful of his songs worthwhile ... as long as yr not bumping wiz long players its all good

i mean, i dont think hes a bad or boring rapper on a song-by-song basis -- like that track w/ killa kyleon off 'kush & oj' is just good, his rapping is good, fits the beat, good song altogether -- not 'in spite' of his rapping, but his rap style just works there

wale just always sounds adrift and personality-free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxxOpnqJDlk

husalah interviews jacka on his new track w/ andre nickatina

heres the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64hW4OUaHJ8&feature=related

fravalicios
1 week ago 8
thumbs up if you slap andre while smoking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-jFw3kbAzo&feature=player_embedded#!

heiro x dj fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nt3HSKrCVE

dooooooooooooope album

a lot of sad smooooth beats on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkQYkluy5Kw&feature=player_embedded

"jacka and 'pachin' pick you off like a nectarine / fresh home from tour, kick down the door and sex my queen"

i ... dont think they have the same weaknesses? at all? are you really on some 'oooh skinny jeans' beanie sigel

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

'tattooed weed smoking rapper' -- wale, just like gucci mane & waka flocka flame!

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't understand these 2 posts, can you at least phrase your lame zings in a way that isn't totally confusing? i was just saying the knock against Wale's image is that he's a typical 'skinny jeans' hipster rapper, where Wiz has a cooler or harder to mock image of just being a laid back weed smoker with tattoos.

musically, hes just more charismatic, which is the biggest difference imo. & makes up for wiz's biggest difficulties is that a bunch of his songs are really boring/bad/have lame beats & he doesnt have say currensy's lyrical depth to justify 1000 songs about how hes sleeping with & smoking up your girlfriend

but thats what makes a handful of his songs worthwhile ... as long as yr not bumping wiz long players its all good

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean, i dont think hes a bad or boring rapper on a song-by-song basis -- like that track w/ killa kyleon off 'kush & oj' is just good, his rapping is good, fits the beat, good song altogether -- not 'in spite' of his rapping, but his rap style just works there

wale just always sounds adrift and personality-free

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess I'm questioning the "charismatic" thing -- I don't hear it, he sounds as blank and devoid of swag as Wale to me, they both just kinda talk their shit without saying anything funny or memorable imo.

like do Wiz fans like "Black And Yellow" or just kind of tolerate it? that shit is garbage.

i dont think its garbage at all, its super catchy

idk i dont get 'blank' from wiz, just kinda 'boring/one dimensional'

like ... wiz has a really strong personality imo? its just a really really narrow one. or his personality is well defined

wale is almost the exact opposite: his personality is super weak so he is all over the place trying tons of different personas on & failing to click with any of them, just super generic spitter of modest 'technique' -- but like i have no idea what dude actually is about. wiz its crystal-clear

i don't understand these 2 posts, can you at least phrase your lame zings in a way that isn't totally confusing? i was just saying the knock against Wale's image is that he's a typical 'skinny jeans' hipster rapper, where Wiz has a cooler or harder to mock image of just being a laid back weed smoker with tattoos.

― underrated bobos I have honked (some dude), Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:30 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these arent zings tard theyre pointing out your confusing ass point -- youre all 'but musically they're basically the same!' immediately followed by 2 examples of their sartorial differences ...

can we stop talking about this

i mean, everyone knows where everyone stands -- you're just re-stating points from yesterday

i think "black & yellow" is kind of lame but as far as a pop crossover goes it's okay i guess

i was clarifying

omg how many times does hus say "know what i'm saying" in that vid

ZINGS TARD

black & yellow is catchy as shit -- its exactly why its getting covered by rappers all over right now

these arent zings tard theyre pointing out your confusing ass point -- youre all 'but musically they're basically the same!' immediately followed by 2 examples of their sartorial differences ...

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

my point was exactly that they have a lot in common as vocalists but people don't seem to notice it because their look/image is so different.

i dont think there look & image is very different at all which i guess is where the confusion is here. are you really arguing that their image is the reason one is cool & one isnt? i mean wiz wears skinny jeans too. i dont think ppl are sleeping on wale because he got reviewed by pfork & doesnt smoke enough weed or something -- its bcuz he doesnt present a consistent persona

but weve basically said this i guess

oh shit i missed that casual joint up there! nice to see dude still around!

good song too

http://usershare.net/1wv2qbdq086d

so good!!

hey did m@tt ever get to check this album out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oayADXijPg&feature=player_embedded

also i recently decided i like 'quarantine' more than 'coke wave' just fyi -- theres also a quarantine nodj version out there

new free DJ Fresh tape is uneven -- some of his beats are a lil bland -- but im feeling these a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwoUydZvmME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMTgeOK4I7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWkSKtZ1bHs

keak da sneak - cop heavy
cousin fik - pow (whoaaa at beat switchup - heard this is produced by whole shabang not fresh -- confusing since hes using his dj/producer tag interchangeably??)
turf talk - reputable

plus of course d-lo's 'bizness hype'

deej nah i haven't -- been trying to come to terms with the hip hop of today's swaggerific young ppl - odd wolf and waka flocka

but sounds good i gotta check it

oh boy
http://thequietus.com/articles/05156-hip-hop-state-of-the-art-report-end-of-play-2010-2

id be more outraged but its p much unreadable & tldr

yeah

plus he's repping for Drag-On and Asher Roth

that about sums it up

"For hip-hop heads, so much of what you can find on XXL Bangers or DatPiff or YouTube is so profoundly dissatisfying, you start mistaking it for hip-hop and hating it with the zeal of any disappointed ol’ believer. Gucci Maine, Gudda Gudda, Weezy, Yung Jeezy, Wacka Flocka, Wiz Khalifa, Wale, Vado, the new Unimproved Rick Ross & Fabolous, way way too much god-damn Drake: you seriously ain't missing a pissing thing unless you crave yet more gold-plated groin gyration, stoned self-importance, the endless repetition of ad-copy rhymes & in-da-club shoutiness. Ugh. More than any other time in rap history it’s apposite to ask yourself - do you actually NEED this shit in your life? Cos if you don’t, it ain’t hip-hop, it ain’t music, just like music ain’t music no more. S’just a promotional device for the tour."
Probably unsurprisingly, I don't find anything to argue with here.

unless you crave yet more gold-plated groin gyration, stoned self-importance, the endless repetition of ad-copy rhymes & in-da-club shoutiness.

i like all these things p much, except 'endless repetition of ad copy rhymes' but i dont really think thats a problem w/ most of the listed artists

fukk gudda gudda tho

see, this is why we have different tastes cuz i don't like any of that stuff!

and yes, fukk gudda gudda

bumped this thread earlier

the quietus : the new look

id be more outraged but its p much unreadable & tldr

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Monday, October 25, 2010 8:40 PM Bookmark

You aren't kidding.

i was kinda joking abt liking all those things, mainly bcuz im not really sure what 'gold plated groin gyration' is. it reminds me of kelefa making fun of dudes for worrying how "some rappers gild their phooey"

tbh i dunno what the fuck that means either unless he's referring to SWAG which i'm good and tired of

"gold plated groin gyration" sounds like jodeci

also re: ad copy rhymes - the dude's fucking name is GUCCI

'gold plated groin gyration'

http://www.scoopgods.com/storage/c3po1_robot.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1273556479639

also re: ad copy rhymes - the dude's fucking name is GUCCI

― The Saga of the Unkillable Mr. Poppins (forksclovetofu), Monday, October 25, 2010 11:01 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes but he doesnt actually rap like ad copy at all so