Top 50 Most Overrated Electronic Albums

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Well, you not fitting into Tim's argument doesn't totally disprove it.

oops (Oops), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me revise that. Tim's suggestion of people not remembering is certainly applicable, but not w/r/t the 808 State claim.

This again suggests a need for people to back their claims up with something, otherwise, it's all easily dismissible.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

its like asking alex frm NYC what jazz is overrated.

Hey! I like some jazz.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

why are some people so afraid of other people dissing the music they are into?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd guess because they interpret it as some form of personal critiscism. Some knobhead on another thread listed a menu of songs he likes more than "Eighties" by Killing Joke (among them the theme from "Gilligan's Island") and I started to get all uppity(surprise) until I realized....who fuckin' cares? His loss. When someone critiscizs something that means so much (maybe too much) to you, it's alsmost as if they're critiscizing a part of you! I don't know.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

what's weird is that even the love thread turned ugly, people posting loud unspecific disgust over what other people enjoy.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

well, exactly! I like quite a few of the records I'd put on this list but it doesn't mean I think their fans are overstating the case. I probably overstate the case about things I like as a matter of routine but it's not gonna break my heart if someone else doesn't like it. (except Gold Teeth Thief, that's just wrong.) [insert winky here]

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, c'mon, who doesn't love to topple a sacred cow?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

but even there, I'm kinda going, "Yeah, I did overrate GTT, didn't I?" (I didn't, but you get my point.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

JSoulja you've missed my point - I'm not saying that 808 State were horrendously overrated. Rather, that if we'd had this thread five years ago people would have banged on about 808 State being overrated despite the fact that by that point they were *already* underrated. The same thing happens now for Leftism - which has been attacked as overrated for so long now that it must surely be underrated (which it is, I think - it's not the best dance album ever but it's very enjoyable and fairly consistent).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 June 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

*tips his hat to Tim Finney*

jsoulja (jsoulja), Saturday, 5 June 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey! I like some jazz

i know alex AND you like some hiphop. its just if someones commenting from outside a position of enthusiasm/fanaticism for a genre they're always going to be mystified by the love particular records get.

to try and reach an objective position on the relative merits of all musics is a project that bloody difficult.

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link

why are some people so afraid of other people dissing the music they are into?

because being in love is a wonderful feeling?

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link

*actually reads thread*

o ok i'll shut up now.

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:38 (nineteen years ago) link

48) Manitoba - Up In Flames

I still can't understand all the ilm love for this one. Are you all still listening to it?

mei (mei), Sunday, 6 June 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Just came across Slant's all time top 25 electronic albums (2002), which was a poll among 300 DJ's/journalists/etc:

1 Trans-Europe Express - Kraftwerk
2 Blue Lines - Massive Attack
3 Selected Ambient Works: 85-92 - Aphex Twin
4 Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld - The Orb
5 Dummy - Portishead
6 Ambient 1: Music For Airports - Brian Eno
7 Endtroducing... - DJ Shadow
8 Exit Planet Dust - The Chemical Brothers
9 Dig Your Own Hole - The Chemical Brothers
10 Homogenic - Bjork
11 Orbital 2 - Orbital
12 Substance - New Order
13 dubnobasswithmyheadman - Underworld
14 Innovator - Derrick May
15 76:14 - Global Communication
16 (Who's Afraid Of?) The Art of Noise - Art of Noise
17 Utd State 90 - 808 State
18 Homework - Daft Punk
19 Leftism - Leftfield
20 Music For The Masses - Depeche Mode
21 Maxinquaye - Tricky
22 Music Has The Right To Children - Boards of Canada
23 Bytes - Black Dog Productions
24 Everything Is Wrong - Moby
25 The White Room - KLF

So apparently to be overrated you must be
- British
- Ambient/IDM

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

...and to be "electronic" you must not be electronic, apparently

49. The Stooges - Fun House
50. Nirvana - Nevermind

well they use electricity to power their amps, so counts!

zebedee (zebedee), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link

The White Room and Everything Is Wrong seem like the only dubious inclusions there

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

That list is rediculously anglocentric.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 6 June 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

revive

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

I feel like you could really go to town on some of the electronic albums of the intervening years - Burial, Darkstar, Forest Swords, Actress, Galcher Lustwerk, Andy Stott, Jam City etc but it's like shooting fish in a barrel at this stage.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

let’s do it

let’s go to town

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

i agree w 6 of those 7 btw

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

galcher lustwerk has an album?

marcos, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

i think he has like five at this point if you count the side projects

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

http://galcherlustwerk.bandcamp.com/album/dark-bliss

i was into the first few singles (esp i neva seen and the one w “tape 22” on it) but i’m pretty over it now

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

Arca - literally everything he's recorded that hasn't been with Bjork, and at least half of the Bjork stuff as well

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

my feeling about arca has always been a very strong sense of idgi

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

galcher lustwerk is from my hometown so i'll have time for him, though i guess not enough to know he put out an album

the burial debut was interesting but i'm amazing anyone cared after that

i also don't get arca, borderline unlistenable imo

marcos, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

Logos - Cold Mission
Mumdance - Twists & Turns

Hell, anything they briefly tried to sell as 'grime' before everyone remembered what it was.

The entire discography of Jon Hopkins, Daniel Avery, most of Caribou etc.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

burial had a hot streak until 2013 when it all started to sound rather samey

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

omg matt i revived this with hopkins and avery in mind!!!

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

CLARK

marcos, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

all of it

marcos, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

This is making me sound crankier than I am and tbh I like pretty much everything that isn't tepid 6music indietronica and screwfacey IDMised versions of actually exciting genres.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

also uh

boards of canada - campfire headphase
boards of canada - tomorrow's harvest

prob the rest of them too but whatever

marcos, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

tepid 6music indietronica and screwfacey IDMised versions of actually exciting genres

first one has a place, i don't mind easy listening it just depends how indie i guess, second one is v v v v v otm

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

"it's like dancehall but shit!"

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

there is a lot of bad mumdance and the grime angle of logos is definitely oversold

but i will go to bat for mumdance & logos “different circles” mix

it is on apple music and spotify, give it a listen if you like heavy ambient, you won’t be dissapointed

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

only one mention of the orb in the original thread, smdh

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

i heard this new Orb single the other day and jfc my toes haven't uncurled yet

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

i thought of clark too ... he reminds me of that part in amadeus ... “too many notes”

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

I don't mind Hopkins, but the only thing he did I love was the King Creosote collaboration.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

a lot of the idea of overrated is about being annoyed by the garrulous "seen the light" hypecitement of people first jumping onto a perceived new thing whereas when you come across stuff in the middle of a big mix of all sorts of other stuff it can be perfectly pleasant and enjoyable

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

I don't mind Hopkins, but the only thing he did I love was the King Creosote collaboration.

still not entirely sure what his contribution was there.

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

avery is pretty popular right? "song for alpha" what a terrible album name.

i'm gonna say the new errorsmith album. i want to hear the influences more than the cerebral take on them.

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

Jon Hopkins is fine and perfectly enjoyable as a sort of candyfloss background music but it's a mystery how he got so big (massive adverts on the Tube, glowing broadsheet reviews) when he's essentially rehashing the sort of thing Stefan Bodzin was rehashing from James Holden over a decade ago.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

YES

the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

I agree with the Jon Hopkins thing, it's good but I'm surprised it's so huge.


Logos - Cold Mission

This still sounds great imo. And Jam City. And Forest Swords. And Burial for that matter, even if he's influenced a lot of questionable stuff.

Arca's recent s/t is my favorite thing of his since his early EPs/mixtapes.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

a lot of the idea of overrated is about being annoyed by the garrulous "seen the light" hypecitement of people first jumping onto a perceived new thing whereas when you come across stuff in the middle of a big mix of all sorts of other stuff it can be perfectly pleasant and enjoyable

― hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, May 10, 2018 3:38 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea otm

marcos, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link


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