Election (1999)

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Honestly, s1ocki? Chandler Bing.

(don't hurt me)

-- HI DERE, Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:16 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

you're such a monica.

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Does that mean we're fucking???????????

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

so what if he's a shit, alfred? the whole conceit of the movie is the redemption of a once-decent guy who's turned/been turned into an asshole by the unpleasant business of his life. why would you honestly begrudge his elevation at the end of the film? his return to humanity from asshole crotchetyhood?

he's redeemed by loving a boy named Ngudu via penpal letter and Kathy Bates teaching him the joys of obese sex?

My point is that the film says nothing new about alienation and the effect of bureaucracy on the soul. Nicholson's remark at the time that he found a way to play Schmidt by combing his hair a certain style illustrates just how shallow his/Payne's approach was.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT

You are Mac from "Night Court". I am Michael from "Good Times".

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

^^ actors always say shit like that. xp

gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

lololol. xp.

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

they actually got gay-married on the night court season finale

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

if "saying something new" is the benchmark of success, i don't know how you handle a vast majority of films, not to mention ILX

xpost

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"Ndugu," I mean. I almost wrote "Nboootie" – that's how Jack says it anyway.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

gukbe, have you ever been to the movies?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

they actually got gay-married on the night court season finale

-- and what, Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

OH NO

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

You are Rin Tin Tin. I am Mr. Ed.

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw jurassic park 3

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

You are Rin Tin Tin. I am Mr. Ed.

-- HI DERE, Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:27 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

in real life mr. ed raped rin tin tin to death :(

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

jp3 was garbage, and i say this as a defender of jurassic park 2: the lost world

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

seriously, it was as unwatchable as a movie featuring sam neill, william h macy, tea leoni and michael jeter could possibly be

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

leoni is the only one who seems to "get" the dinosaur thing

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

it may have already been said and ties in with judgementalism issue alluded to upthread but maybe the greatest thing about this movie is that all of the main characters remain reasonably likeable throughout and i found it quite easy to sympathise with them all fairly evenly.

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm thinking both. little double feature action.

I don't think either of these movies include that.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

S1OCKI WE'RE DOOMED

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

yr defending lost world?

that's the worst of the three by far

xxx-post

latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

jp3 is good. barely 80 minutes. 10 minutes of set up, then drop 'em on the island, let 'em run from dinosaurs, then military shows up, end. i appreciate a film that does what it's meant to without taking up too much of my time.

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

jurassic 3 is better than 2 (altho 2 seemed a lot better the second/third times)

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

lost world sooooo bad

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

JP3 vs. T3

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

jp3 had better dinos and was mercifully short

xxxxxx-post

ha

latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't see JP3 but T3 was fucking awesome.

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

jeezus, Payne & Taylor really did (co-)write Chuck & Larry. Have they disowned the result?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

ending of T3 v ending of About Schmidt

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously Jurassic Park 4 is going to be the best movie ever you guys

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

lost world ending is garbage but theres goldblum & the seriously exciting trailer/cliff scene

t3 is better than all these movies though really

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

you'd figure after sideways being pretty successful, payne wouldn't have to crank out shit* like 'chuck and larry', which makes me think he really wanted to do it.

*even if one thinks sideways is "shit", it is certainly a different kind of "shit" than chuck and larry

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYy0H1wuMYA

latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

payne disowned chuck & larry after sandler came on, insisting it was 'sandlerized' - his o.g. ending was the two dudes actually falling in love

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicholson's remark at the time that he found a way to play Schmidt by combing his hair a certain style illustrates just how shallow his/Payne's approach was.

It's very, very common for actors to find their way with little things like this. What Nicholson said he did here is called "working from the outside in" and it's not a superficial way to approach a character.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

played by dan and slocki xp

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicholson's remark at the time that he found a way to play Schmidt by combing his hair a certain style illustrates just how shallow his/Payne's approach was what a hilarious motherfucker Jack really is.

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Morbius, would you rather have to watch the Wire or Chuck & Larry?

Jordan, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

It's very, very common for actors to find their way with little things like this. What Nicholson said he did here is called "working from the outside in" and it's not a superficial way to approach a characte

Yeah, I know, the Brits do it all the time, but it didn't work here.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

payne disowned chuck & larry after sandler came on, insisting it was 'sandlerized' - his o.g. ending was the two dudes actually falling in love

More here:
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/07/payne_and_taylo.php

jaymc, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

The only time that approach has worked for Jack is in Prizzi's Honor.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn it, why do you people have to be entertaining on a day when I have so much work?

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, the Brits do it all the time, but it didn't work here.

uh, what?

gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe the greatest thing about this movie is that all of the main characters remain reasonably likeable throughout and i found it quite easy to sympathise with them all fairly evenly.

OTM - everybody in Election does stupid/wrong shit and is fairly delusional, but each is also humanized and made sympathetic at key points in the film.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

here meaning, in this movie, or in america? xp

gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Uh, pretty sure he meant the movie, otherwise he would have said "doesn't".

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

meaning on ILX

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, the Brits do it all the time, but it didn't work here.

uh, what?

The Brits do the outside-in "character-building" approach more often.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

payne disowned chuck & larry after sandler came on, insisting it was 'sandlerized' - his o.g. ending was the two dudes actually falling in love

More here:
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/07/payne_and_taylo.php

-- jaymc, Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:37 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

that's not what it says there

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link


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