rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

jazz fest and voodoo
the shit we smokin stankin like doo doo

that's one of the best beats of the year

beat is just this p much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eua4CmvjlxQ&feature=related

yeah this curren$y+fiend is nice. letting beat ride for like minute plus at the end is hella cruise

that is sweet, and i finally got around to downloading pilot talk (and krit wuz here and some khalifa)

what's the best solo wiz to check out? the solo album i heard by him pretty much sucked.

kush & oj?

kush & oj is his best really

prince of the city 2 is good too, and How Fly w/ Curren$y

yeah i already know how fly but he has currensy to hold him down

this trae is DOPE

http://www.dirtyglovebastard.net/?p=30220

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGurmlYRX4c&feature=related

^^^awesome vibe to this

Clyde Carson ft The Jacka & Lee Majors - Way 2 Cool (NEW OCTOBER 2010)

someone explain to me why Wiz is better than Wale, to me they sound pretty similar and are annoying for a lot of the same reasons

well wiz def raps in a less try hard manner & that laid back cool stoner vibe is maybe why he connects w/ a lot of younger folks

see he doesn't sound like that to me, he sounds like he's straining and pushing the words out and forcing dumb rhymes the same way as Wale. i mean are any of his euphemisms for getting high even clever or funny or is it all "oooh i'm high i'm in a plane get it get it"

they dont rap alike at all??

wale sounds like hes trying really hard to be intricate & is way more bland, wiz's vocals are chill & laid back and distinctive if not particularly lyrically interesting. wiz also has consistent taste in beats & doesnt glom on to any sound or style that floats his way. and he has consistent subject matter that amounts to getting high, having money, sleeping with you girlfriend. also, saw him live, electric performer.

i mean, you dont need to ask us -- ask the actual-fanbase wiz has. obviously hes doing something wale isnt

Yeah Al, go ask wiz's cultural fanbase, members of which you clearly know and interact with everyday. Why would you even bother asking us?

'cultural fanbase'??

god forbid a music journalist do some music journalism (i know al was just asking in an armchair rhetorical way but obv i wasnt actually saying he needed to ask wiz's fanbase but that wiz's fanbase itself suggests maybe there is a major difference, as wale's entire career has been about struggling for a fanbase, but j0rdan is just being trolly iirc fwiw imo)

"hey kid, you like wiz khalifa? come over here"

That said, I agree with deej. I think wiz has a personality that is very easyy to connect to -- he's affable and his subject matter fits the "character" -- I agree that wale is more bland, also his strengths -- I guess stuff like the Seinfeld tape -- is something that is highly likely to be fetishized by journalists than and not really something That I think is going to build a significant fanbase. I think wale was "born into" press coverage, whereas wiz, largely, forced it

Deej what the fuck are you talking about? I was mocking you for implying that shipley should go hunt down some wiz fans and pick their brains instead of posing the question to us, which is, you know, sort of the whole point of the board

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a solid return post

i've been doing that for about a month now haha

anyways, in an effort to stop this before it gets flamier; here's a site that drops a shitton of mixed bag promo and leaked tracks on a daily basis. It's kind of like getting on thirty mailing lists except it's zipped, there's a bunch of popupads and it's quasilegal at best.
http://www.dopehood.com/

i mean, you dont need to ask us -- ask the actual-fanbase wiz has. obviously hes doing something wale isnt

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:00 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

god forbid a music journalist do some music journalism (i know al was just asking in an armchair rhetorical way but obv i wasnt actually saying he needed to ask wiz's fanbase but that wiz's fanbase itself suggests maybe there is a major difference, as wale's entire career has been about struggling for a fanbase, but j0rdan is just being trolly iirc fwiw imo)

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:04 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That said, I agree with deej. I think wiz has a personality that is very easyy to connect to -- he's affable and his subject matter fits the "character" -- I agree that wale is more bland, also his strengths -- I guess stuff like the Seinfeld tape -- is something that is highly likely to be fetishized by journalists than and not really something That I think is going to build a significant fanbase. I think wale was "born into" press coverage, whereas wiz, largely, forced it

― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:07 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah see this is kinda what I was getting at to begin with -- Wale and Wiz have completely different images and fanbases and to a certain set of rap fan, including a lot of the people here, one is cool and one is totally lame, but to me they sound very similar and are mediocre in a lot of the same ways. but I guess instead of puncturing the conventional wisdom and questioning whether the lame Mark Ronsonite skinny jeans blog rapper and the tattooed weed smoking rapper are actually that different on an actual musical level yeah we can just circle back to oh the kids have spoken, 400 thousand twitter followers can't be wrong.

part of it might be that they're both from places without a strong 'regional rap identity' and both imo have these kind of annoying flat accents that sound awkward compared to NYC or southern rappers -- it's not a problem with all rappers from this part of the country, Philly rappers have their own sound and accent, nobody besides me really listens to Baltimore rappers but the good ones have their own sound, but to me D.C. doesn't and I guess maybe Pittsburgh doesn't either.

i ... dont think they have the same weaknesses? at all? are you really on some 'oooh skinny jeans' beanie sigel

'tattooed weed smoking rapper' -- wale, just like gucci mane & waka flocka flame!

on an actual musical level, the differences are really obvious? also wiz has made a handful of good songs & wale hasnt

musically, hes just more charismatic, which is the biggest difference imo. & makes up for wiz's biggest difficulties is that a bunch of his songs are really boring/bad/have lame beats & he doesnt have say currensy's lyrical depth to justify 1000 songs about how hes sleeping with & smoking up your girlfriend

but thats what makes a handful of his songs worthwhile ... as long as yr not bumping wiz long players its all good

i mean, i dont think hes a bad or boring rapper on a song-by-song basis -- like that track w/ killa kyleon off 'kush & oj' is just good, his rapping is good, fits the beat, good song altogether -- not 'in spite' of his rapping, but his rap style just works there

wale just always sounds adrift and personality-free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxxOpnqJDlk

husalah interviews jacka on his new track w/ andre nickatina

heres the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64hW4OUaHJ8&feature=related

fravalicios
1 week ago 8
thumbs up if you slap andre while smoking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-jFw3kbAzo&feature=player_embedded#!

heiro x dj fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nt3HSKrCVE

dooooooooooooope album

a lot of sad smooooth beats on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkQYkluy5Kw&feature=player_embedded

"jacka and 'pachin' pick you off like a nectarine / fresh home from tour, kick down the door and sex my queen"

i ... dont think they have the same weaknesses? at all? are you really on some 'oooh skinny jeans' beanie sigel

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

'tattooed weed smoking rapper' -- wale, just like gucci mane & waka flocka flame!

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't understand these 2 posts, can you at least phrase your lame zings in a way that isn't totally confusing? i was just saying the knock against Wale's image is that he's a typical 'skinny jeans' hipster rapper, where Wiz has a cooler or harder to mock image of just being a laid back weed smoker with tattoos.

musically, hes just more charismatic, which is the biggest difference imo. & makes up for wiz's biggest difficulties is that a bunch of his songs are really boring/bad/have lame beats & he doesnt have say currensy's lyrical depth to justify 1000 songs about how hes sleeping with & smoking up your girlfriend

but thats what makes a handful of his songs worthwhile ... as long as yr not bumping wiz long players its all good

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean, i dont think hes a bad or boring rapper on a song-by-song basis -- like that track w/ killa kyleon off 'kush & oj' is just good, his rapping is good, fits the beat, good song altogether -- not 'in spite' of his rapping, but his rap style just works there

wale just always sounds adrift and personality-free

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess I'm questioning the "charismatic" thing -- I don't hear it, he sounds as blank and devoid of swag as Wale to me, they both just kinda talk their shit without saying anything funny or memorable imo.

like do Wiz fans like "Black And Yellow" or just kind of tolerate it? that shit is garbage.

i dont think its garbage at all, its super catchy

idk i dont get 'blank' from wiz, just kinda 'boring/one dimensional'

like ... wiz has a really strong personality imo? its just a really really narrow one. or his personality is well defined

wale is almost the exact opposite: his personality is super weak so he is all over the place trying tons of different personas on & failing to click with any of them, just super generic spitter of modest 'technique' -- but like i have no idea what dude actually is about. wiz its crystal-clear

i don't understand these 2 posts, can you at least phrase your lame zings in a way that isn't totally confusing? i was just saying the knock against Wale's image is that he's a typical 'skinny jeans' hipster rapper, where Wiz has a cooler or harder to mock image of just being a laid back weed smoker with tattoos.

― underrated bobos I have honked (some dude), Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:30 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these arent zings tard theyre pointing out your confusing ass point -- youre all 'but musically they're basically the same!' immediately followed by 2 examples of their sartorial differences ...

can we stop talking about this

i mean, everyone knows where everyone stands -- you're just re-stating points from yesterday

i think "black & yellow" is kind of lame but as far as a pop crossover goes it's okay i guess

i was clarifying