recommend me some lost shoegaze classics

I will!

The reason I'm even thinking about it is I started thinking about the aesthetic of obscured or effaced vocals. It didn't exactly start with shoegaze (and definitely didn't end with it) but that seems to be the genre that really embraced it. I've been going through my collection thinking about the antecedents to the style.

the aesthetic of obscured or effaced vocals

FYI this is a totally different subject than shoegaze!

Kinda like saying, "Is there an article about how shoegaze came about? I started thinking about the aesthetic of distorted, woozy guitar sounds..."

Which would be another perfectly apropos line of inquiry. But pgwp's topic seems like the more interesting one.

Yeah I recognize it's a bigger subject than shoegaze and thought I said as much. There are lots of avenues to go down and shoegaze is definitely one of them.

the just-reissued ashrae fax 'static crash' ep has some pretty special moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyXicOwLriI

Really looking forward to this, as are the other 5 or 6 of you that bought the Still In A Dream box set!

https://thirdmanrecords.com/news/third-man-records-announces-southeast-of-saturn

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This looks really cool, thanks!

Here's one, a bonus Teenage Filmstars track. Hits the spot!! Amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9RQrUAOYU

Just been listening to All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors (of whom three members guest on the incredible Dalek track Forever Close My Eyes) - Turning Into Small is a lovely album!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG4u0LR8nzo

I love that album and the band comes from a very middle of nowhere wooded town in a part of north New Jersey that you would only expect to hear dueling banjos. I was so flabbergasted that a top tier shoegaze band of all things came from there. I grew up a town away.

I love that band, & I had no idea they were from rural north New Jersey. That endears them to me even more, having grown up in Warren Co.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/09/bd/ce09bddec81ad6e0540aa1c59eda5090.jpg

[faint sounds of shoegaze in the distance]

aw <3

Not 100% gaze, but very much classic and perhaps a little overlooked -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1qeKFQMIg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOxUz7sXBY

Love Straightjacket Fits! What was the 2nd one supposed to be?

Maresn3st have you heard that Teenage Filmstars track I posted? Scratches an early Lilys / Drop Nineteens / Swervedriver itch for me.

Maresn3st have you heard that Teenage Filmstars track I posted? Scratches an early Lilys / Drop Nineteens / Swervedriver itch for me.

Yea!!! Love it, I got kinda Swirlies top notes from it too

The second YT? It's just another SF tune, Down in Splendour, Andrew Brough was def the gaze end of the band.

Ah OK cool; it's broken on my end.

Yeah definitely Swirlies too but they were always so focused, and to me this track has that zoned out feeling the bands I cited had the tendency to do, where it sounds like they're lost in the bliss of the chord changes and aren't guaranteed to snap out of it.

don't know their catalog well enough to know if they pulled out more like this one, but...

outrageous cherry, "if someone loves you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32hDKDkSLOw

It's been awhile since I listened to anything else by them but I LOVE that album in particular

always loved the first smashing orange album. it is very derivative but all the same, it fucking rocks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNOeXDHDaU

Me too. Someone taped stuck a few of their songs on the end of bootleg tape of a Ride concert for me in the summer of 91. I then spent a few hopeless months going into record shops trying to find anything by them and repeatedly being asked "Don't you mean Smashing Pumpkins?" until I gave up. I eventually found an album of theirs in 1993 which had at least one of the tracks from that tape on it (Not Very Much To See), but mysteriously had a very different version of My Deranged Heart on it. Another year passed and then I finally tracked down another album that had the 'proper' version on it. I don't actually know which of those albums came out first and I assume the group had split up long before I actually finally managed to buy them.

(A quick visit to discogs later) Weirdly it seems that both the albums I bought were released in 1991, but that the four songs originally taped for me were the A-sides and B-sides of two singles also released in 1991 (that also featured on the albums).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeSvPNFe6bg

john peel used to play 'my deranged heart' and 'only complete in you'. they did actually survive until 1995-ish, they got signed to MCA in the big clamour for alt-rock bands and put out one last album that totally stiffed afaict. all their stuff is supercheap on the cogs now

Love Smashing Orange! Everybody is pointing out my favorite bands this is great

This feels like something Ned would like?

Anyway, this was circulated for years on blogs but I recently stumbled on this OFFICIAL download complete with the cassette artwork and this was exciting for me.

FREE DOWNLOAD, too!

https://washperth.bandcamp.com/album/wash

Huh, wonder what their deal was.

Obviously I don't have much info, but I heard they once opened for Swervedriver (in Australia where they're from). I do wonder why they didn't happen...

This tape is great though. Glad it exists. More people need to hear it.

Bumping because: see above post

Also I crave engagement (needy as usual) and am currently hopped up on music discoveries

Like this incredible one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIzmQ1BGYM

This one kind of a Lorelei mixed with early Lilys, early Swirlies & early Polvo sound! Winner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uoCdmGIouw

This band is great too:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?app=desktop&list=OLAK5uy_k4Km8ZWlJyZE9BXcF3bsyG3sZHs6Iwlqk

It's Mean Red Spiders. For some reason that link used the app interface or whatever

Hey, thanks for the heads up on that Wash album!

You’re welcome!

Yeah that's a damn good listen.

Ned - question for you - that band I posted above "Study of the Lifeless". I'm having a heckuva time finding concrete info about their 2nd album "World Revolves Around You". I presume it must have released on CD but the internet weirdly has no evidence of this. Do you know?

https://www.allmusic.com/album/world-revolves-around-you-mw0000986965

(btw someone made wild guesses with those "style" tags... way off)

very weird hearing Filosofem by Burzum for the first time in the mid 90s and hearing the guitars on there. If you didn't hear the harshg vocals I think Shoegaze is very much what you would be thinking.
JUst checking this now and yeah definitely what I'm hearing.

xpost Hm, couldn't tell you. One of those turn-of-the-millennium bands keeping the sound going as they could. Had almost forgotten about them!

Pluramon 2003 & 2007 albums
Luminous orange 1999 ep

Dang I guess I'll need to keep digging

xp

Ultra Cindy!

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDxbibbpTVGDJoAvv0fmk-Z7&themeRefresh=1

Another Heaven is great for nugaze

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgv9n8ApQbs

Just noticed that Fleeting Joys are active again
https://fleetingjoys1.bandcamp.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVZTe5XOAE

It's fairly well known but I don't see it mentioned enough outside Rateyourmusic: The Angel Pool by The Autumns is really gorgeous, can't recommend it highly enough, and the singer is the opposite from 99% of vocalists in the genre.

The Autumns - The Angel Pool
Sianspheric - (first two albums)
Teenage Filmstars - Star

two great bands with mostly same lineup:
Polar - A Future History Of The frigid Polar Night
Polar - Lies Set By The Polar Mob
Con Dolore - This Sad Movie

The third album This Sad Movie is particularly amazing.

Another vote for Alison's Halo - Eyedazzler

Alison's Halo have been working on a kind of wrap EP for, well, years now (not a complaint, I think they're just fitting it among other things, pandemic, etc.). Backed it a while back and seems like it should be coming out this year.