xp Can't really listen much to the back half of Incesticide (aside from Aneurysm and Downer)(& Downer wz on Bleach)...surprising to me that you would dismiss Heart Shaped Box and Pennyroyal Tea as "not much fun" but then fuck with the likes of Aero Zeppelin and Big Long Now...
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link
(xp to dog latin, LOL chap, no I think Aero Zeppelin is one of their worst songs...)
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Heart Shaped Box was one of my favorites on Utero, I'll say that much
― melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Lounge Act, Drain You, Milk It, and Very Ape are all def. Nirvana POX for me
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
(well maybe not Milk It, though I love that song something fierce)
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Incesticide does have at least one of my favorite Nirvana songs of all time--Been a Son
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
"Verse Chorus Verse" would make my POX.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Tell you what I've only played one and a half times:
That Nirvana box with the nice metal shiny front. Lovely package, nice DVD, but hey.
Although their version of "Seasons in the Sun" will stay with me forever.
(I got it cheap in the closedown of the MusicBox in Bracknell)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this too...I'm beginning to doubt my ability to come up with a Nirvana POX
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
question for geir, who wrote the following to explain the absence of unplugged and from the muddy banks... on the poll:
Albums consisting only of new versions of pre-existing material don't belong here.
geir: does the way a song is performed/recorded matter at all for you? is there any chance whatsoever that the unplugged versions of, say, "about a girl" or "pennyroyal tea" are better than the original studio versions, or do you consider that to be automatically impossible? is the beatles' "revolution 1" automatically better than "revolution" because it was recorded first? or is it possible that they improved it when they re-recorded it? do you allow at all for that possibility? and if you do, do you also allow for that possibility with a live version? i'm genuinely curious as to your reasoning behind this.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
LOCK THREAD!! QUICKLY!!!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
but i really want to know!!! i'm having a curiosity morning!
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8cARQTlQn-M/TF-_iovF19I/AAAAAAAAAFw/pTbEw56bLrc/s1600/sinking_ship.jpg
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
sigh.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
plz keep Geir-trolling confined to the Mozart thread plz
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's a valid and interesting question.
― more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
should I fly to Los Angeles
― markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Tell you what I've only played one and a half times:That Nirvana box with the nice metal shiny front. Lovely package, nice DVD, but hey.
Btw, I find that box sets like this one, that I'd otherwise never listen to completely start-to-finish more than once every 10 years, are tailor-made for "shuffle" mode -- I quite enjoy the occasional track!
― more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
the box set has some good stuff--my favourite is the cover of "Here She Comes Now"...
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Geir has made it pretty clear in the past that live music doesn't matter to him at all, only perfected studio recordings.
― not Morbius old, but still (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:26 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
One of their best. I really like "Marigold", the Dave Grohl song too.
― village idiot (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
his criticism doesn't even make sense about Unplugged in that while they were oft re-recorded old Nirvana tunes there was a GAZILLION covers of material that they hadn't covered on wax prior to that night. I mean ffs!
― melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
also Unplugged was awesome
who gives a shit? Geir excluded Incesticide and the two live albums and included the two 60s Nirvana albums: he has a bit of the idiot in him.
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm aware of geir's general feelings about live recordings. i asked the question because he broadens the exclusion here (and elsewhere) to "new versions of pre-existing material." which raises the question: does performance matter at all? does a great vocal performance matter? does great playing matter? or is the first recording, preferably by the composer, automatically better than all other recordings. period? i'm not looking for a titanic-channeling, ilx-sinking, world-ending thread. just a simple answer. really!
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i am i, don quixote
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
does performance matter at all? does a great vocal performance matter? does great playing matter?
I think he just reads the sheet music.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
the box set has some good stuff--my favourite is the cover of "Here She Comes Now"...― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:06 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:06 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I had the 7" version, back in the day. A very silly Melvins' cover of "Venus in Furs" on the other side.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a chance to buy some sort of weird Nirvana vinyl (7 or 10" ???) once, with the VU cover and the song Opinion and some other song on it, I can't remember which. Didn't have quite enough to do it, and am now haunted by it.
Never found it in any Nirvana discography; does anybody have any idea what the other song was? Was it super-rare or anything? Wd appreciate the feedback!!!1!!
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/Nirvana-Your-Opinion/release/641788
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a bootleg, around $30 on popsike (record of recent ebay sales)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's the one. thanks!!!
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Bleach is kinda becoming my favorite in my old age
it's the only album of theirs I genuinely enjoy listening to. the rest is like listening to Kurt loading shotgun shells
― Bad Vibes Bob (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
bleach = in utero > incesticide > nevermind > unplugged for me
i admit my placement of nevermind might have something to do with being absolutely inundated by it for the entirety of hs. anyway, don't sleep on incesticide imo
― hypnosis is the reason some Jewish people backed him → (will), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
My order:
incesticide > with the lights out > in utero > bleach > nevermind > unplugged
I think Nirvana's non-album tracks are pretty remarkable, unexpectedly ass-kicking and often very strange.
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
it's so stupid that there's like official Nirvana b-sides that still have never seen a proper CD release. This band's catalog is totally fucking bungled
― i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, but think of the future marketing opportunities.
― I love cinema. My favorite movies are Citizen Kane and the Boondock Saints (KMS), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Is "Talk to Me" a cover? It sounds very familiar (in the same way that all nirvana songs sound familiar, even upon hearing it the first time) but otherwise doesn't sound at all like a nirvana song.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
xp I tend to despise most Courtney Love trash-talk, but I think that this (handling Kurt's recorded output) is the one area where a legitimate claim could be made that she is a scourge on this earth.
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd condense that to, "I tend to despise Courtney Love; she is a scourge on this earth."
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
is that rarities box set no good? i've never heard it.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the box set is great! lot of curiosities that are actually worth listening to repeatedly. check out this one, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFEF-bR1R_8
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
also check this out for being possibly the weirdest song in the Nirvana catalog-- but impossibly catchy too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sHEv0SmJhA
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
the video of them in a rumpus room practicing with some dude simulating a strobe light by flicking the light switch on and off is pretty charming.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
is that Sliver?
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I think "Dive" is still one of my favorite "non-regular studio album" track, followed closely by "I Hate Myself and Want to Die".
― melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Great tracks. One of my favorite non-album tracks is the split single they did with the Jesus Lizard, "Oh the Guilt."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0KyxYQI60
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
you gotta admit, no one can scream like that these days
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
on Bleach Kurt screamed until his voice gave out. I remember my first few listens were painful for the whole "geezus that must hurt like hell" angle.
― melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Dive, Oh the Guilt, and I Hate Myself are all excellent songs...Been a Son is totally my favorite 'non-regular studio album' track, but there were a lot of great ones...
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link