are disco edits the new electroclash?

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My issue with the idea of cutting out the "boring" bits is that it plays right into where a lot of these kids are coming from, which is the dance rock kind of context where everything is so high energy (volume-wise, not Patrick Cowley-wise) and so fist-pumping that it lacks any subtlety or suprise or variety or dynamics etc etc.

-- dan selzer, Saturday, 7 April 2007 07:34 (9 hours ago)


i agree wholeheartedly with this.

can you still buy bootleg ready-made mixes of the current top/hit rap hitz all mixed together and remixed? on vinyl? in philly you could buy those at Funk-O-Rama and other stores.

-- scott seward, Saturday, 7 April 2007 01:39 (15 hours ago)

readymades for the party dj. this was years ago. but i assume they still exist.

-- scott seward, Saturday, 7 April 2007 01:40 (15 hours ago)


there was a bit of a shitstorm here in toronto surrounding these kids who were using their own premixes for parties.

it sort of plays into dan's comment about there being no subtleties of mood or feeling that people can do this and sorta get away with it. the only feeling is UP UP UP. plus the technology makes it so much easier to put whatever 20 corny gimmicky songs together at home.

how do you all feel about bands doing covers a la mountain of one "can't be serious" or glass candy "miss broadway"?

i saw soulwax do their live band thing and it was much like their dj sets where there were tiny bits and pieces of songs quickly spliced into their own material. it was interesting to see, but a bit soul-less i think.

jaime, Saturday, 7 April 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"and so fist-pumping that it lacks any subtlety or suprise or variety or dynamics etc etc."


isn't that what "young people" want though? that repetition of the money shot over and over. not just in dance music either. but there too. 20,000 Dutch gabber fans can't be wrong!

(i like it too, by the way. mostly for nullification of the self/religious reasons.)

scott seward, Saturday, 7 April 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

think this might have something to do with the resurgence in cocaine use?

BATTAGS, Saturday, 7 April 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

scott, you're talking about d.i.r.t.y and the pilooski edit of can, right? I don't always keep up but there was something I just downloaded from them that I dug.

I get those emails too, the Can one is probably the worst one. I like the JJ Cale, Frankie Valli, Human Beinz the best.

dmr, Saturday, 7 April 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike Simonetti of TMU?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 7 April 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes.

dan selzer, Sunday, 8 April 2007 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

late to to teh party m8s, but here are my two #####. there's no mood anymore because people aren't looking for magic, an experience, a transcendant kinda thing (despite the whole "cosmic" motif these days, no one's doing any of that 'open ur mind + heart' shit). people want the coke, bat-shit out of your minds kinda experience, or the "I'm so cool cuz I'm here" - so, you get "UP UP UP", corny gimmicks, horribly lame underground clothing label-type mixes, etc.

When psychotropic drugs and that social atmosphere come back into fashion (if ever, and maybe they have somewhere cooler than me), then you'll probably get people favoring music that's a little weirder and moodier. But, 2007 = lindsey lohan, obsessive materialism, narcissism, cocaine, internet-age ADHD, etc. - so it's what u get.

uhrrrrrrr10, Monday, 4 June 2007 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

are you saying its hard to enjoy disco music on coke?

g®▲đұ, Monday, 4 June 2007 04:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I get those emails too, the Can one is probably the worst one. I like the JJ Cale, Frankie Valli, Human Beinz the best.
apparently the frankie valli one has been signed for a legit release by some british label who wanna sell it as this year's 'crazy'.

haitch, Monday, 4 June 2007 04:24 (sixteen years ago) link

2007 = lindsey lohan, obsessive materialism, narcissism, cocaine, internet-age ADHD

this and this

you get "UP UP UP", corny gimmicks, horribly lame underground clothing label-type mixes, etc.

is OTM, but you're making a mistake conflating the disco edit movement with this. if anything, that movement is about decreasing the energy - cutting out all the fun bits and only keeping the dull, "tasteful" parts. worst idea ever, i say.

i'm quite fond of the idea of Diplo as our generation's Jive Bunny, i must say.

Jeb, Monday, 4 June 2007 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link

are you saying its hard to enjoy disco music on coke?

No, it's hard to enjoy disco when everyone else is on coke and your quad-dipped tabs are starting to come on and the guy next to you with the lava lamp for a face just won't shut up...

DJ Logan5, Monday, 4 June 2007 06:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm still not understanding the point of edits like this edit of the turtles 'happy together' by Todd Terje. sounds like he looped the intro once, pumped up the bass and added a bit of effects towards the end. what'd that take him, 10 minutes?

http://americanathlete.blogspot.com/2007/06/introducing-wade-nichols.html

jaxon, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

But that's often the point of an "edit" as opposed to a "remix". And they often take 10 minutes.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 June 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

it's for people who would do mashups but don't have the talent, basically ;)

never acid again, Monday, 4 June 2007 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

naaah edits generally don't fuck with the originals too much, just make them more "deejay-able" - ie a bit more intro, bass and effects

jaime, Monday, 4 June 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Exactly, nowadays it can be as simple as just running a live drum based song through ableton to set the tempo perfectly.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 June 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

boring

jaxon, Monday, 4 June 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

like putting stabilisers on your bike

never acid again, Monday, 4 June 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Eh, works for me.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 June 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

no one here is taking a purist "all edits are bad" stance, right?

we can all agree that there are good ones and bad ones, however different that may be defined.

g®▲đұ, Monday, 4 June 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

anyone who says all edits are bad has obv never heard anything by beatconductor or tangoterje

The Macallan 18 Year, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

well i think the thing that should be questioned is whether or not they should be pressed and offered for sale. altho of course it'd be impossible to make that kind of judgement, the impression i've always gotten is that dj's would make em for personal use, personalized for their own sets. i mean, if you're a budding producer or whatever it's probably a nice way to learn stuff but i don't know about building a whole reputation on edits.

jaime, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I'm speaking purely in terms of edits as a DJ tool. Occasionally, an edit is worth releasing, but it's rare.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

nothing wrong with stars on 45 is there?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Love the Tangoterje edit of Paul Simon's "Diamonds on the Souls of her Shoes". It ends up halfway between Studio and Arthur Russell's "In The Light of the Miracle".

Tim F, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

If they are using Ableton/Audacity/Whatever to tighten up the beats on these edits they need to do a lot better job cause I still have to warp the shit outta them!

The Macallan 18 Year, Monday, 4 June 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Rune Lindbaek's Afrika I'm looking at you here.

The Macallan 18 Year, Monday, 4 June 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I am obsessed with Peter Visti's remix of Dolly Parton's "Jolene". Amazing.

Tim F, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

how do you all feel about bands doing covers a la mountain of one "can't be serious"

Who/ what is this a cover of? It's cool.

Iain Macdonald, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

it's by Ginny.
http://www.flexx.be/distro/items.php?id=flexx004

got big on the DJ Harvey Sarcastic Disco mix.

jaxon, Monday, 24 September 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

surely the irony is that AMO's cover version is totally serious and straight faced.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 24 September 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

holy crap -

http://discoedits.com/

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 January 2009 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link

ahha
this one is one of the best out there...

http://sci-fi-pogo.blogspot.com/

kaiser, Monday, 12 January 2009 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

this just in: disco edits are still 99% retarded. that said, hearing Mike Dunn play disco records in Chicago sort of changed how i look at edits.

pipecock, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

thank god ILX is ok until end of june

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.grahamphillips.net/Ark/Ark_2_files/moses_with_tablets.jpg

Tim F, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

best edit i have heard lately is the dr. dunks' 'keep it cheap', nice echoey looping business as heard on rub n tug's beats in space mix.

juniper jazz (haitch), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yellow cards? are we playing soccer here?

pipecock, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

the yellowcard is ILXs own way of calling you retarded, bro

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Soccer? What's that then? I

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ RIP us / europe zinger

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Is pipecock banned again already or something? If not, I'm interested in hearing more about the Mike Dunn set and in what way it changed your view.

matt2, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4662/img00036v.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

no wai

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

wai

fleetwood (max), Monday, 5 October 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

that wasn't even at a nerdy record store. was just at your run of the mill hipster haberdashery

jaxon, Monday, 5 October 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

This has been a fun thread to reread.

Jacob Sanders, Monday, 5 October 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Was this a joke TOM PETTY - You Got Lucky (Cosmic Instrumental) b/w Don't Come Around Here No More (Synth-drum Dub)?

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

never heard a version of You Got Lucky but there is definitely a track out there called Don't Dub Around Here No More (Italians-related ... I think it's done by Tiedye under a different name)

dmr, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link


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