S/D Unconventional Stadium Dimensions

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Actually, Hurst wasn't on the '90 team! (Was he?) He was either traded to or signed by the Padres prior to 1990. (Right?)

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

goddamn you're right! wow, i thought he was around a lot longer than he was. he was gone from boston after going 18-6 in '88.

he ended his career in texas of all places. 8 games, 8 games started less than 40 innings pitched and an era over 7.10. a sad end to the ace of the bosox postseason in '86.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Notable starters on the 1990 Red Sox include:

- Roger Clemens (duh)
- Mike Boddicker
- Dana Kiecker
- Kevin Morton (one of a looong line of post-Clements BoSox pitching prospects that never panned out) (see also: Paxton Crawford - better stuff than Pedro!; Brian Rose; Aaron Sele, to a lesser extent)

I like how the ILBBall threads are all mixed up & stuff re: the original topics and the various deviations therein.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I had Paxton Crawford on a rotisserie team one year.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:52 (nineteen years ago) link

don't forget vaughn eshelman (sp?), brian rose, tomo ohka, and the immortal jin ho cho.

god, did anyone in the history of mlb get more second chances than brian rose?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Matt Young to thread!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

for the record, i'll listen to no discussion of the bosox late 80's "phenoms" that doesn't include big sam horn! another favorite slugger and a cornerstone of the why not? o's teams of frank robinson.

― j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think sam horn was ever considered a "phenom" so much as there was a lot of hope attached to him. it was obvious that he could hit a ton (i remember reading a column from bob ryan or dan shaughnessy about horn hitting a ball further than they thought humanly possible in spring training) but it was making contact that was the problem (as evidenced by his 323 k's in 1040 career ab's). there was always the hope that he could be the next dave kingman or gorman thomas, i'm sure the sox would've settled for rob deer but after hitting .148 back to back in 88 and 89 he was gone.

now if you want to talk phenom's then you've just got to mention phil plantier and mo vaughn, i was sure the were the next incarnation of the gold dust twins from 15 years earlier.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

BY THE WAY: regarding the zero sum guy w/ the most second chances in MLB history - Bruce Chen just got traded AGAIN. His current dossier includes:

- Atlanta
- Philly
- Boston
- Toronto
- Mets
- Cincy
- Houston
- Montreal
- and now Baltimore!!

Hope he likes crab.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, phenom is a bit much, i guess. rob deer...that takes me back.

― j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i can remember a point in the late '80's/ early '90's when rob deer was on the bench whenever clemens pitched because he was 0-22 against clemens with 20 k's.

man i wish there was a team in mvp2004 with nothing but sluggers who either hit it a mile or missed it completely. deer, gorman thomas, dave kingman, pete incaviglia, sam horn, tony armas, ron kittle, etc.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

...cecil fielder.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

ps: you guys, don't be shy to start a new thread... it's really not that hard!

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

why start a new thread when this one is mutating on it's own? it's organic baby! don't go against mother nature!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus I love what you've done w/ the place, gygax - is that sponge painting? Tres chic!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

:-\

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The funny thing about guys like Deer and Incaviglia is that they were absolute freaks for striking out as much as they did, whereas today there are bunches of hitters that are that bad about the K (and a bunch play for Cinci).

Recent pitching phenoms that are hanging on as long relief dregs:

Todd Van Poppel (AKA the next Nolan Ryan)
Cal Elred (AKA the next Tom Seaver)
Pat Mahomes (AKA the next Doc Gooden)

― earlnash, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

"Pat Mahomes" could be it's own Berman Nickname.

― boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

san diego's right field is really really wacky.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/daily/graphics/rfkConvertMound_040905.gif

not really dimensions so much, but general RFK wackiness involving its conversion between soccer and baseball (at a cost of $40K each time):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/daily/graphics/rfkConvert_040905.html

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, the magic mound!

see, forget about the nats new stadium...where's the new stadium for the dee cee jooniteds?!

― jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Good read, will repost to the media thread:

http://thedataface.com/2019/04/sports/baseballs-irregular-outfields

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Incredible thread:

People are posting weird HS baseball field dimensions on r/baseball and I could look at these forever pic.twitter.com/OecXuumDco
— Jomboy (@Jomboy_) April 5, 2020

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 6 April 2020 04:43 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Good read, will repost to the media thread:

http://thedataface.com/2019/04/sports/baseballs-irregular-outfields🕸

This article is incredible.

Steve Shasta, did you see this happen last year?

https://www.mlb.com/news/kyle-isbel-breaks-light-on-green-monster-scoreboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfXS-_awBK0

― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:57 (two months ago) link

lol, that's worse than the Wrigley ivy!

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 15 February 2024 01:44 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Morehead State, who plays against Illinois today and is a popular upset pick, has maybe the weirdest baseball field in the country. Haven for lefties. Apparently they're unable to push the right field fence back because there's a species of endangered salamanders living there? pic.twitter.com/c3VAD5Ihrw
— Matt Monagan (@MattMonagan) March 21, 2024

― mookieproof, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:56 (four weeks ago) link

I would put my everyday CF in left, my RF in center and my LF in right and just pray a dying-quail-peeler doesn't end up in the corner.

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:08 (four weeks ago) link

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