Cypress Hill: Classic Or Dud?

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i refuse to believe that i was wrong in thinking this was a proto-trip-hop meisterverk for the last 10 years

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, strongo...

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I've decided to just leave Black Sunday preserved in metaphorical aspic.

You see, it occurred to me that, conceptually, Cypress Hill were actually great. Only the music sucks.

I have never owned a pair of big shorts, btw.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Other Adam, I shall download right now and report back.

adam (adam), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

no way, the first album is KUH-LASSIC. Mostly for the production. Muggs seemed to subsequently abandon this style to a large degree - but the dense, scratchy, chopped samples are great. Also this is the album that introduced me to Muddy Waters' "Electric Mud" so bonus points for that.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

But all the shouting. And the lyrics.

My god, the lyrics.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

fun fact: first album i ever shoplifted!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

in other news i found an old copy of the source and was kind of disappointed at the level of the criticism

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

A young @d@m stole the Hijack album!

UK equivalent?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

across the board the lyrics are not the greatest, true. But "Pigs" is funny. And "Real Estate"?!? That song is great, and the vocals do their job, get the bragadaccio over, etc. B-Real is not the best with metaphors, sadly. His verse on "Stankonia" is good tho.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the one that goes "bilingual, funky bilingual"?

That song should be buggered and drowned.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, i can't believe I just posted that.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

what about how i could just kill a man???

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

cypress hill = a group to dip into, rather than immerse yourself in.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

HAND ON THE PUMP

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, I guess that and Pigs might be the keepers. but trust me, they're not as good as you remember. Civilization has moved on.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

duke-duke-duke-duke of earl-duke-duke-duke of earl

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, it is crap. There goes another part of my childhood.

adam (adam), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm dying inside

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, hearing this and also learning that Leisure Suit Larry isn't actually very funny have made me reconsider the supposed glory of my youth.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

hey i too listened to this recently for the first time in a loooong while. The beats are good and that's all I have to say.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

the cover still looks cool, right?

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

remember back when pot wasn't a regular part of rap culture

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

ie. they will grate on me if i listen to more than a handful of tracks at a time. the sneering delivery is pretty cool in small doses (i think it's on "i want to get high" he says "ar-ouund" and his sneer curls so far it practically comes full circle). kind of formulaic, but they've made some really good variations on that formula. i never play their albums through - give me a tape of 7, maybe 8 of their best and that's all i need.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

There's something of the New Jack about it.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000027RY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i feel the same way about them as i do about placebo.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link

pigs
hand on the pump
how i could just kill a man
rock superstar
hits from the bong
insane in the brane
when the shit goes down
i wanna get high

that will do.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree the production on the first album is phenomenal. I like the rapping too, but that may be a matter of personal taste.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

ILM is a strange place full of strange tastes.

That first album is one of the strongest hip-hop debuts ever.

If Cypress Hill was Stevie Wonder:

first album = "Music of My Mind" thru "Song in the Key of Life"
second album = "Hotter than July"
almost everything after that = "Woman in Red"

Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 14 May 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
hahaha just the concept of "If Cypress Hill was Stevie Wonder"!!

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

This morning I think "Hand on the Pump" is the greatest song ever. The sample from "Duke of Earl" is total genius. The lyrics are a slice of evil. I am going to put on a bandana.

Euler, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

anyone who says dud is crazy.

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Best rock group of the 90s

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

First album was cool at the time. It sounded a lot different from everything else. B Real's delivery favorably compared to the Beastie Boys (who weren't a complete laughing stock yet).

I remember when Black Sunday came out, all of my friends kind of loved it it for about a month, then someone brought The Chronic home and put it on, and Cypress Hill was quickly forgotten about for the next two years.

Someone gave me a Temples of Boom tape years later, which I listened to it in my car a lot. I enjoyed "Killa Hill Niggas" and "Boom Biddy Bye Bye", mostly for the production and hilariously theatric lyrics.

Most of the people I know who have any serious reverence for Cypress, also listen to ICP and Kottonmouth Kings.

I like DJ Muggs, but If I'm ever making mid-90s rap compilation and a Cypress Hill song could fit, I'll take something by Beatnuts instead. Although "Light Another" is the one song by them I get in the mood to listen to every now and then.

rockapads, Saturday, 18 August 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

First album = C++.

libcrypt, Saturday, 18 August 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

(Classic ++)

libcrypt, Saturday, 18 August 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice on the classic++. For a record that was very popular at the time (double platinum in the US), it's very vulgar. I mean, the first song ("Pigs") finishes with a (presumably male) cop getting gang-raped. I don't think anything on The Chronic has anything that vicious---it's a very sexual album, but the sex seems mostly consensual, even if the kissing and telling isn't very respectful. Has any record this vulgar made it so big since? I don't know enough about Insane Clown Posse's record to say if they are competitive here.

Euler, Saturday, 18 August 2007 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Sawed off shotgun, hand on the pump/Left hand on a forty, puffin on a blunt"

A pump-action shotgun would seem to be a two-handed weapon, to have one hand on a 40 AND be puffing on a blunt while operating one, well...this I'd like to see.

Mark Rich@rdson, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

ILM is a strange place full of strange tastes.

― Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:28 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

tbomb

choom gangsta (deej), Sunday, 28 December 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

the debut is in my top 10 all-time rap. also loved the second.

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 28 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...
four years pass...

those first two Cypress Hill albums were both great

Dan S, Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

DJ Muggs ear for samples was always magnificent.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

The first three albums are all great in their own different ways. But I lost interest in them after that.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Monday, 19 October 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

One of the bosses at Pappadeaux the summer after high school would play "Rap Superstar" or "Rock Superstar" before a shift to get us hyped to go out and sell overpriced gumbo.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 19 October 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link

I seem to recall they lost out on most of their royalties for Insane In The Brain because they forgot (or just didn't bother) to clear the "I'm think I'm going crazy" sample at the very end of the track.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Monday, 19 October 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Cypress Hill has returned with their tenth studio album, Back In Black, produced entirely by Black Milk and due March 18, 2022 via MNRK. To ring in the announcement, the group has shared new single "Bye Bye," featuring a standout verse from rapper Dizzy Wright -- listen and pre-order Back In Black on all major streaming services. The new track comes on the heels of the announcement of the band's extensive slate of touring for the year, including a leg of Slipknot's Knotfest Roadshow 2022. Find all announced tour dates below. In yet another monumental move, the group has announced a brand-new documentary titled Insane In The Brain: Cypress Hill, which will be released this spring.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 January 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

New song is pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6V4PCcLkk

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link

black milk production with cypress hill = i'm in

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link


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