Search and destroy: Neil Young

What's a "CD"? I've been using these flat black round things that make noise when you put a needle on them.

I'm not really a fan. But those are all good albums, I mean I don't see how he ever much improved on "Cinnamon Girl," what an ace riff. As usual, I have to roundly disagree w/Geir: CSNY is an abomination unto the Lord. Buffalo S. is good.

In which case, you may find "On The Beach" in some used store, only it will costs you for sure. :-)

Why isn't "On The Beach" available on high quality bootlegs like the stereo versions of the first Beatles albums are?

this is very not actually true. just like it seem geir likes to be. I found a CD! bootleg copy in atomic records in milwaukee and it wasn't too expensive. allyC has a proper looking [covers, disc printed on, etc.] copy from some german label.

I alternate between Tonight's the Night and On the Beach being my favourite--they are both incredible.

Rust Never Sleeps, too. Zuma in parts. Everybody Knows This is Nowhere is very good, also.

I have yet to pay enough attention to the buffalo springfield album allyC insisted I buy.

Honegro, will you please shut up. Your a parasite sucking the life out of any conversation.

the one and only best thing Neil Young has ever done

I paid $7 Canadian for mine (the dollar was worth a little more then, but not much), and that was the most I ever saw it go for. The only "proper" album I've ever bought that has artwork on the interior of the jacket.

I'd like to throw in a good word for one of the sides of Hawks & Doves (the "Folk" side, not the awful "Country" side), cuz no one else will.

destroy: harvest (exc. 'a man needs a maid') and after the goldrush (exc. actually listening to it.)

has anyone ever notcied how much wany coyne sounds like teh neil jong?

Destroy: Nothing. Though I wouldn't recommend stuff like Everybody's Rockin', Are You Passionate?, Old Ways and Long May You Run ... they stand as fascinating miscalculations.

hrm.

to know Neil is to abide his creative floundering. To love him is to know the burn. The $16.99 burn. He is all and everything else is small. There is no one greater than Neil and there probably won't ever be.

Certainly OTM regarding the last sentence.

This might've been acceptable when the guy still cared, but I think it's a bunch of bullshit now. Young hasn't made even close to a solid album in over a decade now. It's all been half-baked, half-finished and even--dare I say it?--half-hearted. This whole 'the-song-comes-to-me-and-I-write-it-down-in-five-seconds' approach has (with very few notable exceptions, say, Bandit) has led to a very barren prairie. How interesting that he's chosen fading away over...well, you know the other one.

I don't think I'd destroy any of it. Certainly "Everybody's Rockin" and "This Note's For You" you should get LAST, but you should still get 'em.

About 9 or 10 years ago I saw him play with Crazy Horse, and the first note he played blew my god damned mind to bits. It was (and remains) the hugest, warmest, and intensely all encompassing sound I have ever heard. There is no possible way I could ever explain it, and none of the many live recordings I've listened to even come close to capturing it. Additionally, I would pit the slow-motion, stretched out feedback finale notes they dropped at the end of each song against any Sunn 0)) gig in a contest of sublime amplifer worship. The shit was massive indeed, and over-joyed to hear he's still doing it. This is why the fellow remains relevant, or at least the only living purveyor of 'Neil Young's guitar sound' - which is something you must hear live, not on a live album, in your lifetime.

Search -

Buffalo Springfield - Mr. Soul, Expecting to Fly, Broken Arrow, Nowadays Clancy...
Neil Young - The Loner, Emporer Of Wyoming, The Old Laughing Lady
- every beautiful note of-
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere
After the Goldrush
Harvest
Tonight's the Night
On the Beach
Rust Never Sleeps (although I'm not as into this one as everyone else in the world)

Once you're in deep I'd recommend appreciating some of his weirder shit -

Trans - where Neil Young combines his own bad self, some synths he had his roadies steal from Rush, and Bruce Haack's futuristic prairie soul into an unparrelled mess of weird and wonderful.
Freedom - his most linear 'story telling' with some harsh 80's bad vibes.

and the song 'Touch the Night' from Landing on Water.

Once you've read Shakey you can appreciate '...and the Shocking Pinks'

On Film - Rust Never Sleeps 'A Concert Fantasy'

Destroy -

Most of his shit in the last 15 or so years. It's really 'law of diminishing returns' at this point, but if you really dig there's a few quality songs.

i don't particularly care for harvest moon or zuma. even some of harvest is worthless.

Yes. I'm The Ocean is the best Neil Young song in probably 20 years. It's a towering achievement and should be searched. Also search Fallen Angel from the same record, which is I'm The Ocean's coda.

Other great, somewhat obscure Neil songs: Big Time and Music Arcade from Broken Arrow.

Don't Be Denied & Last Dance from Time Fades Away

also Yonder Stands the Sinner!!!

Yeah--well, if I'm catching his mumble right, the uncertainty of this delay seems to have spread to "the jury's still out," and he can't remember what he forgot or something like that---now he's got me doing it----which is a good idea for a song: the book that's been sitting on the shelf since '85--right here between this one and this other one, the book I was probably gonna read over Christmas---is gone. Looking and looking for it and I QUESTION MY LIFE man
---But this song is just standing around and mumbling, not freaking out, not nothin much---maybe it's very very special weed, dusted with powdered elixir--maybe he paid very much up front and now it's gone solid gone---so, put out another deluxe from the vaults, recoup and reinvest, try again, so what.
Several others just seem like run=throughs, low-impact stylistic exercises, despite the evident, also predictable, sincerity---but cherrypickin' tyme is no surprise, and I do find freshness, of little turns and sufficient definition, even some flair, as written and played, in "Change Ain't Never Gonna Come," "Shape of You," "Tumblin' Through The Years, "Welcome Back,"---that's my fave---and "Don't Forget Love." "Camerican" is pretty good stylistic exercise. but ends soon and abruptly, like several others

a lot of the fade outs on this record are weird and abrupt

...“We have recently found a collection of originals from 1987 named Summer Songs at the time of recording,” Young explains on his website. “That time was about 35 years ago. We are not sure of the exact original dates of these recordings yet. They were all given the same date in the NYA Vault’s records, but they all have a very similar unique sound. To give you an idea of place and time, Farm Aid and the Bridge School Concerts had just begun their long runs.”

“This group of songs had just been written and put down in the studio at Broken Arrow (as far as we can figure),” Young continued. “We cannot completely be sure of the engineer who was recording these, and I don’t remember the sessions at all! Every song in the collection was with acoustic guitar or piano and simple added embellishments — sketches of arrangements we made to preserve the initial ideas.”

“These originals were first introduced in their final master versions on the albums Freedom, American Dream, Psychedelic Pill and Harvest Moon. They will be included in NYA Volume 3 and may be released as a separate Archive album before that. It is a beautiful listen, created over a short period of time, that influenced four albums.”

Young provided the list of songs that will appear on the new release: ‘The Last of His Kind’, ‘For the Love of Man’, ‘American Dream’, ‘Name of Love’, ‘Someday’, ‘One of These Days’, ‘Hangin’ on a Limb’ and ‘Wrecking Ball’. Young also adds that “The words of these originals are significantly different from their subsequent master album releases in many cases. Several completely new and unheard verses are found in the songs of this collection.”

Summer Songs doesn’t yet have a release date, as research is still going on to decode some of the information regarding the sessions. Still, you can listen to the later versions of some of the album’s tracks as they appeared on future albums and live performances down below.
from https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/neil-young-to-release-lost-album-summer-songs/

Archive subscribers can listen to at least some of it, dunno how much.

Another list but some pretty good writing:

https://uproxx.com/indie/neil-young-best-songs-ranked/

Hyden is good at hiding a reasonable piece of criticism in the form of a list.

I'm laughing now at the thought of a Neil novice checking him out on the basis of the list and the first thing they hear is 9 minutes of "T-Bone".

Well he's completely wrong about "T-Bone", that guitar tone is monumental.

I'm laughing now at the thought of a Neil novice checking him out on the basis of the list and the first thing they hear is 9 minutes of "T-Bone".

― Halfway there but for you

I wish that had been the case when instead I heard goddamn "Tell Me Why"!

aw I love tell me why :(

Tell Me Why fuckin rules

maybe his best opener

hyden and i just experience music in entirely different ways (thankfully). i can't imagine listening to "tell me why" and thinking "he sure is showing those suckers cs&n"

Tell Me Why is incredible.

Everyone on this thread needs to hear his 1987 medley "Tell Me Why (That I Got Mashed Potatoes But Ain't Got No T-Bone)"

why does he start a list and then start another list going in the other direction within the list?

That seems like an appropriate format for Neil Young

hyden and i just experience music in entirely different ways (thankfully). i can't imagine listening to "tell me why" and thinking "he sure is showing those suckers cs&n"

― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, April 4, 2024 1:24 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol for real

No motion pictures for carrie

No credibility

That's a favourite of mine that didn't make his top 100. Also "Will to Love" and "Last Dance".

That seems like an appropriate format for Neil Young

that's kind of what I thought too. of course, to really do this in true Neil style, he would have to publish the list in two parts and constantly push the publication of the second half in favor of continual updates/rewrites to entries in the first half.

hyden and i just experience music in entirely different ways (thankfully). i can't imagine listening to "tell me why" and thinking "he sure is showing those suckers cs&n"

― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, April 4, 2024 1:24 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol for real

not that it matters because it's just hyden doing a glib rockcrit thing, but the first live performances of "tell me why" were with CSNY. They probably had a little something to do with the arrangement on the harmony that ended up on the record

He'd publish the second half of the list first, abandon the first half, then release three collections of drafts of the second list featuring several unreleased tracks from the first list.

oh man, everyone OTM about tell me why, one of my favorite songs period

Only two notes, really:

1) No "Cocaine Eyes" is the difference between me and Hyden, and our definitions of the verb "to rock," in a nutshell;

2) The version of "Like a Hurricane" on Live Rust is better than the version on Weld.

definitely not denying that his time with csn influenced the harmonies on that record and his approach to harmonies in general. hyden's particular flavor of bill simmons-y music is sports brain is just nails on chalkboard to me

me as well, I totally agree with you and was trying to take a shot at hyden's tossed-off received wisdom brainlessness, but i probably wasn't being clear there

just gotta chime in, on team "tell me why" 100%

me too, although at this point it's hard to say i don't have a pavlovian response to it, since it heralds yet another time i get to listen to one of my very favorite records

"Cocaine Eyes" is in my top ten Neil Young songs."

Re "Tell Me Why": I've grown to like it but it...took a while. I needed Zuma to loosen me up.

was it hard to make that arrangement with yourself?