What's up with hating on the Doors?

Ned back me up here

i love it when people try to "disprove" my point about influence by saying that someone sounds like someone else and probably listened to him a lot: YES I KNOW THAT!! SO WHAT!! WHAT HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SAID JOHN? OF WHAT CONSEQUENCE OR INTEREST IS THAT? The reason "influence" does not exist is that EVERYONE stops right at the point where you have to say the interesting thing: viz WHY IT IS EVEN SLIGHTLY RELEVANT THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT?? if there is a point ever being made with "influence" talk, why is it never reached?

- they didn't have a bass player
- they did that song "The End"
- a lot of people worship Jim Morrison as some kind of "totally deep poet, maaaaaaaan"

You can see how, based on this knowledge, I would think they were the worst group in the history of music. But then one day, I accidentally stumbled into a free show by a Doors cover band, and -- wonder of wonders -- it was actually pretty fun, rockin' music! Still haven't bought any albums, but it made me realize that maybe this was just another case of douchebag fans making good music look bad (cf. Pitchfork Kid A review that made me want to never listen to music again)

did jim morrison even inflict any of his (non-musical) poetry on the public before he died?

Wasn't he focusing primarily on poetry when he was in Paris?

Wiki says An American Prayer was recorded during a 1970 "poetry session".

After Morrison's death, Iggy was considered as a replacement for Morrison; the surviving Doors gave Iggy some of Morrison's belongings, and hired him as a vocalist for a series of shows.

News to me!

Sorry but Roadhouse is so good

let it roll baby

This band won me over in the end - sure, not everything they did was great, but their best stuff was truly wonderful.

. Fine. I won't hate the Doors.

I only lke listening to three Doors songs: peace frog, riders on the storm and crystal ship, mainly because I love the basslines in them. None of those are in that list :(

I know “light my fire” and “the end” are two of their most emblematic songs but they bore me so much, I can’t even think about them without feeling slightly bored. They’re boring in a dreadful kind of way.

Nile Rodgers picked "The End" as his #1 Desert Island Disc for the BBC, which genuinely surprised me. He was having some kind of formative LSD experience the first time he heard it.

Even snoring has the potential to sound interesting on LSD though.

And there is another point. No matter how spoiled, vengeful or self-indulgent any supposedly titanic talent may be, the true geniuses - Lennon, Dylan, Tom from Kasabian - always exhibit some thread of empathetic humanity

i couldn't remember who kasabian were so i googled them and discovered that they are, in fact, the band that has been "described as a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis."

the Doors are so great

ventured into barnes and noble yesterday. they had this in the racks. pricetag? $21.99.

fucking lol

Even in my most enthusiastic Doors phase Light My Fire has always bored me. Strange Days is a good album and I still smile whenever LA Woman comes on.

they were so audacious in every sense of the word, so incredibly ridiculous and sometimes beautiful and terrible and amazing and lame, the whole idea of the Doors seems like it never should have existed, psychedelic questers and low barroom drunks, proggy organ jackoffs and frustrated jazz welded to hard L.A. sleaze, bad poetry and funky drums and how many bands even risked half as much?

Doing a Doors deep dive at the moment and can I just say how much I absolutely HATE how nowadays they’ve shoehorned in the “missing” vocals in “Break On Through”? “Everybody loves my baby, she get HIGH… she get HIGH… she get HIGH yeaaaahhh”. There is no way in hell those are from the same vocal take. Also fuck all these “anniversary remixes” and “Light My Fire” sped up to “correct speed” bullshit. Buy the original records or the 1988 CDs or gtfo.

Light My Fire is a terrible song

I once accepted a free ticket to see the Doors of the 21st Century with Ian Astbury on vocals, it was unbearable and I had to leave before the encore which was clearly gonna be Riders on the Storm into Light My Fire and I would have died

The best thing about that show was that Asbury gave an interview in local street press (maybe same interview everywhere, I dunno) where he said Jim Morrison came to him in a dream and said it was cool to do the schtick but he wasn’t allowed to sing The End

listening to LA woman recently and having fun imaging Ian Curtis singing it … “city at night - city at night!”

Yes

I like the sound of the DCC Compact Classics reissues for the self-titled and L.A. Woman. Tube mastering, and yes, just as they were originally released (no remixes or flying in those additional bits).

But reservations still remain. I can't listen to "The End" all the way through with a straight face. Best cover ever comes at the end of this sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPB1NlM4ew

love it

looool I had never seen that sketch.

I have the vinyl box that came out 15 years ago or whatever, sounds fine to me. It has both stereo and mono versions of the s/t