― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
It starts getting good from Soundtracks on. Future Days is simply awesome.
The whole disco period is ok, if you're a big Can fan, but I wouldn't start there (although I love Holger Czukay's "Movies" album).
― Braces Tower, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
What I've heard of Ege Bamyasi and Tago Mago sounded appealing, especially the former.
― Phil, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
anyway, my favorite is still probably future days although everything they did has moments.
― jess, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Destroy: _Out of Reach_, which the band hated so much it's never been reissued, and with good reason.
― Douglas, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob snoom, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob snoom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― willem (willem), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
Tons of Can threads so might as well revive this one for this link -- Irwin Schmidt on food, music and democracy:
http://thequietus.com/articles/00813-irmin-schmidt-of-can-on-food-and-cooking-plus-a-recipe-tip
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I know it's not meant to be any good, but the completist in me needs to buy a copy of 'Out Of Reach' - are any of the CD versions better or worse than others in terms of sound quality? I've read that, since it's been disowned and not officially reissued, the CD versions often come from poorly done vinyl transfers.Any tips for which of the grey-area CD versions to try and locate?
Thanks
― krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
If there's a Can forum or similar where such a question might also have been answered by knowledgeable geeks then please point me that way too.
― krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I dont know about sound quality, but there are several different versions floating around - at least in Europe. The one released by Audelic contains Out Of Reach and the self titled album and is pretty cheap, there should be also a more recent version from Cleopatra (!) that according our supplier's database should be easily available.
― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks Marco. I didn't think to check for standardly available copies, assuming that the grey-area aspect would write them off, but I think I see the copy you mention, thought the UK distributor for Cleopatra isn't entirely clear and we definitely don't deal with whoever Synergie are ourselves. I'll try to see if maybe Cargo, F-Minor or PHD have it on their books.
― krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I think that all these versions are basically non-legit.I saw the Cleopatra version is available through Bertus, a big Dutch supplier: I'm pretty sure all good UK distributors work with them.
― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Cheers, that will probably help to know. If I can get it through the shop that's a bonus as I have a lot of left over holiday pay to write off.
― krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
add to search: the peel sessions - "Up the Bakerloo Line w/Annie" sounds like an acid trip. in a good way
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I found it on a mp3 blog a few nights ago, Haven't listend to it yet.... not actually sure I want to. nothing worse than a bad album by a favourite band.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, I know it's not meant to be good. I want it purely for completeness reasons.
― krakow, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Is it 'bad'?
Or just 'bad by their standards'?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link
It is truly and definitely BAD: the eponymous album has more than a couple of good moments, but Out Of Reach is pretty indefensible.That said, I'm the proud owner of a copy exactly for the same reasons of Krakow. :)The BBC album, instead, is marvellous and a fascinating glimpse into the band's compositional methods.
― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link
The best things on it are the Rosko Gee songs
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone else think "Inner Space" is under-rated? I'm not sure it's up there with the canonical records, but it's close IMO.
― Neil S, Saturday, 20 November 2010 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link
first time I've heard the recorded version of this track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxFYCE6VIt4&feature=related
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
delay is ok... "the thief" is a banger
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
Is Cannibalism worth bothering with? The remix of Yoo Doo Right sounds like warmed-over trip hop to me...
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
you mean Sacriliege? the Cannabalism albums are just compilations
― frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:17 (twelve years ago) link
Cannibalism 2 has a few of my fave Can moments (the crazy/fun Mother Upduff is supposedly a true story; Turtles Have Short Legs one of damo's best vocals; Shikiku Maru Ten also excellent wierdness)the first Cannibalism is less essential if you already have the early Can records but there's a few different mixes iirc.and yeah, Sacrilege had a couple pieces i liked but i only recall the Sonic youth one right now....
― epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
cannibalism ii's just such a great listen - it's edited together so well, the first clutch of songs p much sync up & match jaki's drums up iirc.
― honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
I never tried Cannibalism 1 since I have all the albums, plus I hate how "Yoo Doo Right" is the only full length piece there. Cannibalism 2 seems good but if you have Radio Waves and Unlimited Edition then it's kinda superfluous. Cannibalism 3 is a collection of solo material and it's actually pretty entertaining (though disappointing if you're expecting a lot of great instrumental stuff). As for the remix collection, I really thought it was a big wasted opportunity, you'll probably wind up liking 1-2 of the remixes and find the others a waste of time
― frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
Ah yes, sorry, I do mean Sacrilege. It's the 3p mix of Yoo Doo Right that didn't sound too great to me, some of the other remixers might do a better job though.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
tbh that Yoo Doo Right mix was really the only thing on there I liked, so yeah. the other remixers don't do a great job either
― frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
I liked Bruce Gilbert's mix for being barking mad, the rest, as someone said, is "not my tea"
― Mark G, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
I need to check out Cannibalism 2
the eponymous album has more than a couple of good moments
lol rev introduced me in the outloud room to the awesomeness that is "Aspectacle"
― revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 7 October 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
I like the edits on Cannibalism 1 when I'm in the mood for a peak-period Can mixtape. Sometimes I only need 8 minutes of Halleluwah!
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 October 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I'm not on board with all those who say it got "ruined" with an edit. it's not like it's "Close to the Edge" or "Supper's Ready" or anything! still, no idea why "Yoo Doo Right" survives intact
― frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
I got so used to the shorter "Mother Sky", the proper one seemed un-naturally elongated in places (i.e. bits obviously repeated)
― Mark G, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeh i knew Cannibalism first, the longer versions seemed weird when i finally heard them. and the longer versions are already edits of much longer jams!
― zappi, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
that said, "halleluwah" definitely kicks it in its 18 minute version"augmn" could be shorter though
― frogbs, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
has there been any discussion about the supposed box set anywhere?
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 10 October 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
this sounds pretty radhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u4CtYbTT2-Y
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
from Can: The Lost Tapes
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
ha, it sounds like the music for "Italian Spiderman" - guessing that's a super-early cut?
super excited about this release. let's hope the next step is a decent sounding live recording!!
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it def has an earlier feel. don't have to wait for a decent sounding live recording -- check this one: http://ow.ly/9XyYa
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
i'll have to grab that when i get home. i love the idea of live Can but that Live Box and the new Tago Mago bonus tracks just have so much tape hiss; could probably compress them to 64 kbps and not hear a difference
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
thanks tyler will grab that, there were some great boots on mutant sounds a year or two ago too
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeahhh, i think i got some of those - Future Days Past Nights? The 1973 show might not blow your mind in terms of sound quality (it's pretty good), but the performance is otherworldly.
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
thaaaaaaaaank yoooooooooooou
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
the one boot called Free Concert has Doko Daie Concert (excerpt) on it which is pretty great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Free Concert is amazing. here's another good one, not live, but a long tago mago outtake http://ow.ly/9XDnE
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
love this stuff, can't get enough.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
loved stuttgartstill need to get around to ordering Brighton
― nxd, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
Was lucky enough to get a promo just now -- certainly quick, just half an hour long as noted, but four good jams, just being their exploratory selves.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link
any recognizable bits? (maybe with a spoiler tag?)
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
definitely some "bel air" in here
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
listening to Saw Delight for the first time in like, a decade. I forgot how much Sunshine Day and Night made me smile. Call Me is a great tune too. It sounds like Mooney-era Can, but on uppers instead of downers. Fly By Night is so damn fun too. I actually think it's an interesting take on funk. Because they aren't quite a funk band like that. With some of these grooves it sounds like it's their first time playing them, but they're total pros so they get it right anyway.
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link
and the drumming on "Animal Waves"! Wicked. imagine if you could isolate that.
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link
It's the first of their albums I ever heard and I still love it, massively underrated
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link
That's my feeling about Flow Motion
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 12 August 2022 07:04 (one year ago) link
New live album coming out Aston 1977
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:54 (three days ago) link
Yep, and into the Rosko Gee era! The sample track sounds really good, I'm glad this series is still marching forward.
https://canofficial.bandcamp.com/album/live-in-aston-1977
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:24 (three days ago) link
very nice, I was wondering if we'd get some later period shows
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:30 (three days ago) link
The artwork for this series is so awful, I do not understand it!
― Davey D, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:31 (three days ago) link
I don't know, I actually like it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:42 (three days ago) link
I'd heard from someone that Aston was coming in May and one from Keele University was coming in August. I guess he must've had an inside source. Keele I believe is the Fizz show which is really excellent and well-recorded. it was also recorded two days from this show so the Aston album (which looks like a single LP?) might be superfluous soon. whatever, I'll probably buy it anyway
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:49 (three days ago) link
i like the artwork too
― nxd, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:02 (three days ago) link
Can is one of the greats and I’m never going to complain about getting more live material at all but for some reason none of them have hit like Brighton for me and I don’t know if that’s because that was the first one so it was new and exciting and I put a lot of time into listening to it or if I just actually like that one more than all the rest on a purely musical level.
― Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:05 (three days ago) link
In other words it feels like a case of the latter but I could be blinded by it actually being a case of the former.
― Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:07 (three days ago) link
Stuttgart is the first one, and I kinda agree the next two were kinda superfluous after that. Paris is different though and I suspect the next two will be as well
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:08 (three days ago) link
Goddammit Stuttgart is the one I meant and the only one I have a physical copy of.
― Slim is an Alien, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:09 (three days ago) link
Paris is great, it’s probably my favorite right now (probably because I was listening to it just the other day. Catch me on another day and I might pick a different one ).
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:36 (three days ago) link
just picked up Paris a week ago and that definitely hit the sweet spot.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:23 (three days ago) link
I realized I haven't listened to it so far, so I have it on now
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:27 (three days ago) link
Is this a double album? The bootleg of this gig lasts 78 minutes.
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:39 (three days ago) link
... or do we have another Cuxhaven on our hands?
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:40 (three days ago) link
I suspect that will be the case yes, only the 1st four tracks. 4th track of the boot = Dizzy Dizzy = 4th track here as well.
So probably going to miss the last 3 tracks (sunshine, I want more, kami kazi attempt)
― StanM, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:02 (three days ago) link
Wish I knew what drove the decision to cut some of these down, I'm not sure I understand the arbitrary choices to shave some down.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:24 (three days ago) link
total madness
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:31 (three days ago) link
could be something with the boots themselves - I don't think this is sourced from the same recording. the drums sound quite different to me, as though this bootlegger got a lot closer. could also be something with the vinyl release, like maybe they didn't have the capacity to do a double, though maybe not because the Brighton release probably didn't need to be a triple...its 90 minutes but they could've easily cut out some of the second half where it's just dead space between sets. curious how the next one will be handled, if indeed that is the Fizz recording they should just use the version that was played on the radio, since it was recorded really well.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:36 (three days ago) link
it is pretty maddening though, I don't really need another version of "Dizzy Dizzy" but would love "Sunshine Day and Night", one of my favorite tracks of the Rosko/Reebop era
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:38 (three days ago) link