Let's talk about Dead (Mayhem)'s death photo. (warning: brains inside)

xpost. yes?

anyway the black stuff is his SOUL

xpost he had showered!

he looks so creepy here:

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/metal/images/dead_focus.jpg

I have sadly still not read Lords of Chaos, to answer an old question.

huh?

(Yes, I've read the book. I guess this would explain the authors' indignation over church burning vs their relative neutrality about anti-Semitism.)

i'm gonna listen to a couple of tracks from 'a grand declaration of war' as a compromise. the songs off that record were wicked life. so was 'from the dark past' come to that.

anyhoo, perhaps my favourite mayhem story, out of a back caltalogue of absolute zingers, is the news that maniac quit the band to settle down with his christian missus.

-- katie quirk (wt...) (webmail), September 17th, 2006 3:40 PM. (dubplatestyle) (link)

you're not missing much. the book is more true crime than music and true crime. as for the politics, "fortunately" ebay is forbidding the sale of certain records by black metal artists.

It's peculiar, isn't it? The forensic scientist in me wants to pore over the photo to figure out how that might have happened, but the other 90% of me is like, "dude, do you want to keep your dinner down or not?"

How did these guys, who I bet were all from pleasant middle-class homes, work themselves up into a frenzy of murder, arson and suicide? My sister used to date a Norwegian, who told me that as a kid in Bergen he used to see Christian Vikernes, as he then was, puttering around town in his mum's green Volkswagen Golf. Not really the stuff of black metal legend, is it?

Varg Vikernes a.k.a Burzum used to date ANNIE! How did such a cute girl end up with him?

And Lords Of Chaos is a shitty book.

Roxy, if yer going to dress up as Dead someday, don't forget to bury your clothes in the ground for a few weeks to get that troo kvlt, necro graveyard stench. He used to do that before live shows.

I know, I did this. I am just now home from this party. I was a huge success.

It's peculiar, isn't it? The forensic scientist in me wants to pore over the photo to figure out how that might have happened, but the other 90% of me is like, "dude, do you want to keep your dinner down or not?"

I assumed the brain being outside his head was Euronymous's doing.

(Warning: brains outside), shirley?

Yes, your brains do fall out like that, especially when you shoot yourself through the chin. He aimed very well, as much of his face is intact.

(God, this reminds me of when I used to look at rotten.com all the time, which is the only reason I know any of this)

Vikernes has criticized J.R.R. Tolkien on his website (http://www.burzum.org), stating that Tolkien's portrayal of the people of Rohan as dirty, penniless villagers was uncharacteristic, since (in his opinion) cleanliness, health, and especially bathing, were all values that were held very highly by Germanic people. Vikernes has also gone on to state that the women of southern Europe were much more attracted to Germanic men because they were "fairer and healthier," and since public bathing was outlawed by the Holy Roman Empire, many of the men that southern European women were exposed to were less attractive as mates. Vikernes feels that Tolkien's Catholic faith may have contributed to this bias.

That guy seems to be a little light on the facts, though. xpost

(You're the best, Stan!)

:-)

Wish I spoke Norwegian though, because I can't find much more at the moment.

Here she is in a VH1 interview, talking about her record collection - Mayhem is the last one in the list, but she doesn't say anything personal.

http://www.vh1.com/artists/interview/1506025/072005/annie_1_.jhtml

Annie was 14 when Varg Vikernes was arrested for Euronymous's murder. I guess it still could've been possible that they dated before that (Vikernes was himself only 19 then), but I'm not sure how likely that is.

I thought he was 21?

Not according to Wikipedia.

Sheesh.

High school thing, probably - she only moved to Bergen when she was 13, according to Wikipedia again. So it must have been when she was between 13-15, if it really happened.

I think Vikernes was already in jail when she turned 15.

If he set that church on fire in 1992, then that may have happened while he was having a high school relationship with ... (uh oh, do you think that's why this is so hard to find?)

doesnt he talk about having a gf at the time of the murder who had an apt and went to techno clubs or something? that would give me the idea that she was older.

I think the varg/annie thing is either not true or better kept quiet...

(Should we ask the mods to ungoogle this thread just in case Annie is trying to hide all of this?)

Haw, you can't be serious!

how come I almost got my head ripped off for posting this pic yesterday?

oh yea, cuz I gave no warning! :)

(brainz inside)

That's not really very nice, Bo Jackson Overdrive.

Where'd you post it, BJO?

I've heard Varg talking about having a predilection for "nice" girls who were completely outside of the metal scene. If she was into Mayhem, this would exclude her (although of course she could have and probably would have gotten into it afterwards).

some great detective work on this thread

It's a BM "So Not Gonna Happen."

(PS, Varg was 21 when he was convicted, which is why his sentence was 21 years.)

What kind of logic is that?

Scandinavian?

He was older than (18?), so they could give him the maximum sentence, which is 21 years in Norway.

Technically, what roxy said is right, but not literally (you don't get 23 years if you kill someone while you're 23, for instance)

To clear up the confusion: according to Vakernes's Wiki page he was 19 in January 1993 when arrested for Euronymous's murder (though he turned 20 the next month), but I guess when he was finally convicted he'd already turned 21, since the court process takes time. Still, I doubt any potential Annie-dating would have happened between his arrest and conviction, so if it's true it must've happened before the arrest, whe Annie was 14 or younger. Which is why I doubt it happened at all.

You're right. Varg would never flout popular morality.

(And haw, aldo!)

someone had this boot as a hoodie.

i kinda wanted it?