Will you ever HATE music?

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fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

(is the answer)

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I did for awhile recently, after realizing at long last that I was using it as an emotional crutch - and one that didn't even work that well. But it turns out that I like music better than its social aspect. I'm much more comfortable with it now.

mike a, Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Music's not always escapist. It can be downright confrontational.

Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, Buddhism etc. discusses this kind of problem at great length, I know

explore further?

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Anytime I found myself "getting tired of music," it usually meant I had been exposed to music I didn't necessarily like.

As much time and space as music takes up in my world, I still have enuff of a social life that I don't have to ask questions like this.

No offense to the Blasphemer, but it seems like almost EVERY damn music e-group from Maine to Mexico eventually gets this kind of "meaning-of-life" post: "I'm tired of music, where shall I turn?" "Oh, I feel so empty because music isn't all there is in my life," etc..

Part of me wants to tell them to just take a break and not do anything music-related for awhile.

The other part of me wants to scold them for announcing that they're tired of music - on a music-oriented e-group, mind you - and killing everybody else's fun! :-)

But seriously, Blasphemer...just get away from it all. If you find yourself coming back to it, or if you notice yourself staying away from it, that will be your answer right there. Just let the whole thing take its' course. Hope that wasn't too insensitive, but half the time when music freaks (NOT YOU) make this kind of tired-of-music statement, it seems like it's primarily done to bum the rest of us out.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

No offense to the Blasphemer, but it seems like almost EVERY damn music e-group from Maine to Mexico eventually gets this kind of "meaning-of-life" post: "I'm tired of music, where shall I turn?" "Oh, I feel so empty because music isn't all there is in my life," etc..

How can I not be offended? All those posts are by me! I've been having this problem for quite a while and no music e-group from Maine to Mexico that I've found can help me!

Blasphemer, Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, if that's the case, then reread my last paragraph in my previous post. Get the hell away from music for a while, then see if you go running back...

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I went through a period when I hated music--I just didn't want to hear it. I definitely didn't want to go to clubs, clubs had been my workplace, not my fun space. I had been immersed on all aspects of music and the business of it for too many years. I think I was tired.

I think I'm coming out of that this year. It's like coming out a deep depression, little by little I find myself wanting to hear old favorites and discover new stuff.

I'm still not to the point where I want to go to clubs again with any regularity. I would rather talk to the musicians themselves in a less hyper situation, like a BBQ or something, and appreciate their recordings separately. Going to clubs still feels like its a job, a duty. I don't know if I'll ever bounce back from that.

I don't feel "empty" because of this though. My interests turned to other things, like art. I started going to galleries instead of gigs. I still like musicians, and often see them at art events, so it's not like I'm isolated from the people--and that's the important part to me.

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 2 July 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Man.. this thread is such a downer...

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 2 July 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

this may sound kind of stupid, but there are three records I listen to when I'm in the I don't want to listen to music but I've got a 30 minute drive to work so fuck it sort of mood.

joy division - unknown pleasures
slint - spiderland
aphex twin - richard d james album/ ambient works vol. 2 (whichever I see first)

Jamey Lewis (Jameys Burning), Thursday, 7 July 2005 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe you need to stop listening to ye ole favorites and turn to, say, galina ustvolskaya's piano sonatas. you won't hear music the same way afterwards.

you will be shot (you will be shot), Thursday, 7 July 2005 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link

since you mention the drug use, i believe its common for junkies to go through period after sober where not able to enjoy things as before - i think its neurotransmitter related...your body gets used to a certain amount of flooding after awhile and just doesn't respond to the lower amounts. and it could be psychological, but how do you separate the two? i don't kown the remedy to this but my intuition says abstinence from pleasure inducing activities could help bring the threshold down. atleast stop listening to the music and mining it for pleasure -that will only cause major frustration. in general you need to lay low! also, i have felt this way when depressed...all beautiful things cease to deliver--colors/sounds seem duller than usual, patterns seem meaningless. it IS like looking at the world thru the eyes of a banker-it is dreadful.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Orbit OTM. That's the point I got to about two years ago.

MIS Information (kate), Thursday, 7 July 2005 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"...It is a mix of boredom, restlessness, uneasiness, discomfort and depression combined with the realization that a pastime that used to make life feel so full has suddenly left a big gaping hole of emptiness that needs to be filled."

I get this all the time too. I'm increasingly turning off background music when I'm reading or pottering about or whatever, and then not bothering to turn it back on...

It feels like I've heard everything before, no matter what new direction I go in. I just can't get as excited about the sixth Super Furries LP as I was about the fifth, which was in turn less than the fourth etc etc. There's a tiny part of me that would love to be that naive 14 year old raving to his mate on the bus about the Kaiser Chiefs or Razorlight or whatever.

Perhaps this whole thread is really just about growing up, that adult life should involve something bigger and more serious than obsessing about fucking records.

I've always had a sneaking suspicion that the 'kidult' culture which permits adults to listen to rock 'n roll (and envelop themselves in Star Wars, £400 imported designer trainers or whatever) was foremost a clever marketing ploy.

Fucking hell this thread really is a downer.


D.G. Jones (D.G. Jones), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think it's a downer really. It's just a reality, growing up as you said, esp. for those of us who spent a long time in business end of it as performers, working at labels etc. Sometimes I think it's better to be a fan. If a fan gets tired of music, they can just get another interest. When someone in the music business gets tired of music, they need a new *profession*!

Someone I knew than ran an established indie label, and had been a rock journalist said to me once "This music ruined my life!" and I knew what he meant. I think I heard Stevie Nicks say this in an interview once, and I agree--you miss out on the "normal life" things and then you're old.

Then you have to make a transition to "civilian life" and it is NOT easy. I recently made that transition, and now that I'm on the other side of it, I'm starting to be able to listen to music with some enthusiasm again.

Thanks for the OTM kate, I know you've been there. Your band was the last one that I had any enthusiasm for, and unfortunately in the middle of all that, I started to enter my phase of running away from anything related to music business. I'm sorry I didn't get to carry out all the promo ideas I had.

I still don't think it's a downer though, it's just real life. I had a really long conversation about this this with Dee, and I can't recreate it here, but guess in all this blithering what I am saying is whether fan or music worker bee, it's not the end of the world if you lose interest in music for a while--it signals that some kind of change is needed/is happening in your life.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 10 July 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll never hate music, just myself for spending more money on it than i can afford

hobo sapien, Sunday, 10 July 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The only time I hated music was when I took 22 mushrooms, blended finely and mixed with grape juice. It rushed into me as the Harmony Rockets (aka Mercury Rev) "Paralyzed Mind of the Archangel Void" was playing at full blast. It sent me farther over the edge than I ever wanted to go. It was then that I understood that there's nothing cool about the mental problems of Brian Wilson, Syd Barret, Roky Erikson, etc. Of course, this should have been obvious, but I was young and dumb. My friends found me curled up on the back porch of my dead grandmother's house, under a blanket, declaring that music was the work of the devil. They offered to change the music, and I told them to put in Miles Davis's "Kind of Blue", the one with the blue cover. They put in "In A Silent Way" by mistake. Back into the void.....

I eventually got over it, and with the help of CAN, all is well. Have you listened to CAN much? They're good for what ails ya. When I feel stuck with music, I'll usually veer off into a genre that I'm not familiar with, and that will keep things fresh.

Joseph Cowart (Joseph Cowart), Monday, 11 July 2005 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Some good advice on here...it definitely seems like a matter of changing your habits in order to combat indifference in general. I mean, music can be as fundamental as life itself just as it can be meaningless, insufferable hipster posturing.

My advice would be to leave the portable music player at home, go to the park on a nice day and just take in the peaceful ambience. Try to get that balance back. And you know, the park's always full of nice people. Works for me.

a Side-walkin' Street Wheeler (aaron ef.), Monday, 11 July 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link


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