The Police: Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy

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Search: Roxanne, Message in a Bottle, Walking on the Moon, Bed's Too Big Without You, When the World is Running Down You Make the Best of What's Still Around, Masoka Tango, Behind My Camel, De Do Do Do De Da Da Da, Canaray in A Coalmine, Man in a Suitcase, Too Much Information, Demolition Man, Spirits in the Material World, Don't Stand So Close to Me, Peanuts, Mother, Synchronicity I and II, Wrapped Around Your Finger, So Lonely, Bombs Away, The Other Way of Stopping, Shadows in the Rain, Voices inside my Head, Be My Girl - Sally, King of Pain
Destroy: Every Step You Take

Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Also search: Next to You, O my God, Miss Grandenko
Also destroy: Born in th 50s

Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Synchronicity was the first album I ever owned.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

they really don't get much love on ILM. I was in a bar a couple weeks ago and they put on that Every Breath You Take greatest hits thing, and it sounded great! well except for that stupid "Don't Stand So Close to Me" remake but that goes without saying. Stewart Copeland is amazing.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"Tea In the Sahara" is amazing, like Eno producing a jazz ballad. Also, the guitar solo on "So Lonely" is neat.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Destroy: Rehumanise Yourself (urrrggh!), On Any Other Day ('my five-year son has turned out gay' - seriously what the fuckety fuck?), One World Is Enough, all of Sting's lyrics, It's Alright For You, Hole My Life, Walking In Your Footsteps (biggest load of shite ever), Oh My God (my reaction too!)

Search: Lots of stuff people have already mentioned, also *Omega Man* (a pop '21st Century Schizoid Man'?), Bring On The Night, Secret Journey, Hungry For You (check out the 'Love Supreme' bassline), Deathwish (reggae raga rock!), Truth Hits Everybody, Fall Out (their Stooges song I guess), Miss Gradenko (Talking Heads meets Robert Fripp?) and most of all **Mother**, which I have only recently come to LOVE.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link

All this love for "Mother"! Maybe I need to listen to it again. The last time I heard it was like seven years ago and I thought it was the pieceiest piece of shit to ever shit.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I like "Zenyatta" a lot, hate "Roxanne" with a passion, tolerate their later more MOR stuff, which is good MOR. I like the way Andy Summers colors the music, find Stewart Copeland a bit overrated as a drummer, etc.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Most of the bonus tracks are wack. BUT the first single's "Nothing Acheiving" and "Fall Out" are great.

Most of the album tracks are worth hearing/having. With the exception of some of "Synchronicity".

Hidden gems : "Peanuts" (rather obviously about Mick Jagger), "On Any Other Day", "Behind My Camel", "Too Much Information".

Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

too much information is amazing: dense as a motherfucker

Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I just listened to Miss Gradenko. Classic. Stewart Copeland is genius. The solo on that song is classic too.

Spirits In The Material World and Invisible Sun are classic too.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

One of my favorite Ozzy quotes: When asked how he thinks his life has turned out so far, Ozzy (pouring some sugar into his tea) goes "Could be worse. I could be Sting."

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Y'all're still too mad at Sting to acknowledge how fuckingBAD-ASS the Police were

No, we're mad at Sting because the Police used to be so "BAD-ASS", considering how fucking indisputably CRAP he is now.

Don't tell me how, why, when and what I'm mad at, godfuckingdammitalltohell!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow. You ARE mad!

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:52 (nineteen years ago) link

the first response on this thread = OTM

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Don't really know or like the Police very much, so when Truth Hits Everybody came up on shuffle, I was like, hmm, should probably skip it. But then I didn't and it rewarded me by being great. So search Truth Hits Everybody.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Wohoho!

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 13 October 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, now I'm curious: can ANYONE vouch for "Born in the Fifties"? About the only good thing I can think to say about it is that it's fun to mishear it as "We were bored, boring and filthy," but that's not much. It's tedious, forced, uninsightful, and wracked with bad, bad, bad lyrics. "WHEN THE BEATLES CAME!!!!" Yeah whatever. Defend the indefensible, anyone?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 October 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

no, it's terrible - but I am awaiting the Police revival. I think they've missed their chance to be retro-cool, more likely they will one day be retro-kitsch, like lounge music from the 60s. certain people will think they're underrated geniuses, everyone else will wonder what the fuss is about

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 14 October 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Born in the Fifties" is awesome and hilarious if you read it as Sting (Born: 1951) trying to present his credentials as a Vital Punk Dude birthed in the closing seconds of 1959, as if he wasn't an ancient deputy headmaster or something.

For all that, the Police were classic!

Great Stewart Copeland interview here, wherein he admits that much of his awesome ride bell playing was overdubbed. Haha!

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, how fantastic is this?

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

o.g version of "don't stand so close" to me and "voices inside my head" are two of my favorite songs ever. and yes, stewart copeland is magical.

buboclot, Friday, 14 October 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Great Stewart Copeland interview here, wherein he admits that much of his awesome ride bell playing was overdubbed. Haha!

That ain't nothin' new. Copeland was never afraid to use studio technology to build drum tracks. "Every Breath You Take" was half live, half programmed - the kick & snare were Linn Drum, with Copeland overdubbing the high-hat & cymbals seperately.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh god. I can't STAND "Born In the Fifties". Not only is the song itself awful, but the way he SINGS it is just...not suited to his strengths as a vocalist at all. Pushes too hard.

Bimble The Nimble, Jumped Over A Thimble! (Bimble...), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

from the above Copeland interview,
Copeland has of late also probed The Police catalog with what he has dubbed "derangements." "They are Police tracks lobotomized to concoct new recordings," he explains. Mixing live and studio versions, instrumental tracks of an original with the vocals from a later version, the jam from mid-"Roxanne" with the lyrics to "So Lonely," and so on, these derangements are expected to be heard as bonus tracks on new reissues

auto mash-up !

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I was *really* into Ghost in the Machine when I was a kid. The cover was awesome.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

It took me forever to realize that the cover art was meant to represent human faces. (Mind you I had the same reaction to the Glider EP.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand how any one could possibly consider "Tea In The Sahara" to be worthy of the "destroy" tag. Since I first heard the song, it's been among my 3 favorite Police tracks. I like the chorus of "Born In The Fifties," and I've never once considered it to be bad, although I pretty much always skip it just because I'd rather get to the better songs.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 October 2005 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

They dropped the bomb on us
While we made love on the BEACH
We were the class they couldn't TEACH
Cuz we knew BET-TAH

I thought that song was great when I was about 11, even though I had no idea what he was going on about. By the time I was old enough to realize how silly it was my fondness for it was firmly entrenched. Totally stupid, but not a bad hook. As fake as fake-punk got.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the lyrical whatever is horrifyingly embarrassing but the police had a great overall sound, all those thin sharp totally un-analog recordings w/o being too baroque or over-orchestrated. come to think their records sound almost exactly like zz top from the same era but with the guitars played a little different.

geoff (gcannon), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand how any one could possibly consider "Tea In The Sahara" to be worthy of the "destroy" tag.

Because it's a hopelessly pretentious sack of tepid, runny DUNG wherein Sting grabs an unsuspecting Paul Bowles novel by the sensitive bits, pours syrup all over it and then proceeds to bugger it inconsiderably, whilst coming up with some of the worst couplets of his already pock-marked career. It's AWFUL!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm one of those who never took their lyrics too seriously I guess.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

wherein Sting grabs an unsuspecting Paul Bowles novel by the sensitive bits, pours syrup all over it and then proceeds to bugger it inconsiderably

Very interesting.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Is doom nigh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

We've all got our tickets!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, that Sting:

Then after performing the works of Elizabethan lute master John Dowland for US TV last weekend he was asked about the rumours.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

He grumpily retaliated by saying that the interviewer must be mixing him up with the fleetwood mac.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

But, will they play "I Burn for You"?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

COMPLETELY CLASSIC!

I'm listening to "Bring On The Night" right now and I'm kinda freaking out about it.

I also just listened to "Born In The 50's." My God.

"My mother cried
When president Kennedy died
She said it was the communists
But I knew better"

AGHHHHHHH!

Davey D (Dave Depper), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG! Sting says they'll do all lute versions of the Police songs on the reunion tour!

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It begins.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Fear it.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Annie Lennox should join'em too.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

If there is a god, please let them start the show with 'Mother'.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Sting vs. Miles

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Just about the best mother fucking thing from 1983. Beware. I don't care if John D. jumps on my ass. I really don't care. I'll willingly take a beating for this record.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a little black spot on the sun today.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

something i remember: sitting in 8th grade art class and telling john crichton (who wasn't a particular friend of mine, just the kid sitting next to me) that synchronicity was coming out the next day. he looked at me and said "so what?" i said something like the police were the best band in the world and he just kind of shook his head.

in retrospect i think it's the least of the police, but that's a relative measure and i'll defend most of it on one ground or another.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

(but it's not the best thing from '83, even if i thought so then)

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Why the fuck would these 3 men want to conceive 16 offspring between them

beamish13, Monday, 4 March 2024 21:14 (one month ago) link

pay attention to the computer in the background of Copeland in that interview

?

calstars, Monday, 4 March 2024 21:52 (one month ago) link

I posted a screenshot in the next post

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 4 March 2024 22:21 (one month ago) link

Still not getting it

calstars, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:30 (one month ago) link

it’s Sting with his lute in a yoga pose or some such

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 4 March 2024 22:32 (one month ago) link

lol

calstars, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:42 (one month ago) link

LMAO I looked it up and it was apparently a Vanity Fair shoot. So I guess Copeland decided to use it as one of his screen backgrounds as a joke?

birdistheword, Monday, 4 March 2024 23:14 (one month ago) link

A prelude to some tantric sex no doubt.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 23:15 (one month ago) link

(xp)

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 23:15 (one month ago) link

he has the strongest unfunny dad persistence, but also can be pretty fucking lol, horrible as it is

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:10 (one month ago) link

lol obsessed much, stu? hilarious

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:37 (one month ago) link

I thought we were all well versed in this photo of shirtless sting playing the lute and Trudi doing some yoga pose in the background, alas, I was mistaken. It is the greatest portrait of all time.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNg8kFcCUAAdsBP%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dsmall

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 01:09 (one month ago) link

well fuck

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 01:10 (one month ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNg8kFcCUAAdsBP.jpg

visiting, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 01:17 (one month ago) link

it's time for the 20th anniv of my "if i had no lute" joke

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:25 (one month ago) link

that's a classic, perhaps only rivaled by the photo of a-rod kissing his own reflection

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:29 (one month ago) link

okay Stew making that his background is indeed very funny

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:30 (one month ago) link

Chances that he arranged that with the camera crew on purpose ? 75%?

calstars, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:46 (one month ago) link

You don't have to put on the red lute

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:55 (one month ago) link

got that Klark Kent compilation on again, you know what he's annoying but damn he writes really catchy songs. or maybe he just drums in a way that makes everything sound catchy. I mean "Too Kool to Kalypso" says it all - obnoxious vocals, obnoxious lyrics, obnoxious kazoo, but he's a force of nature on the kit and the song will be stuck in your head forever. also love that half this shit was clearly written for Sting

frogbs, Saturday, 16 March 2024 03:47 (one month ago) link

like c'mon he was wrong to reject this. imagine how good this would've been on Reggatta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIMitPazAgQ

frogbs, Saturday, 16 March 2024 03:53 (one month ago) link

If that picture of Sting with the Lute was Dimebag Darrell, it would be him with some crazy Dean lightning bolt guitar at a strip club with an exotic dancer on a riser next to a stripper pole in that pose.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link

like c'mon he was wrong to reject this. imagine how good this would've been on Reggatta.

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This is too goofy. Serious Sting would not accept

calstars, Saturday, 16 March 2024 18:59 (one month ago) link

he can rewrite all the lyrics if he wants, the song itself such pure power pop

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:21 (one month ago) link

Exactly. Police don't do power pop.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:53 (one month ago) link

On the first two albums they sorta did. Which I think is when these songs were written

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:56 (one month ago) link

Hmm, I still don't hear the power pop. Maybe "Born in the 50's", and if you squint sideways something like "Next to You" miiiiight fit, but you'd have to be pretty generous with what you consider power pop.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:07 (one month ago) link

fuck, i’m like “fall out” is who-style powerpop, and i assumed it was on outlandos, but no.

i actually only knew it from an off-the-air recording i made from wlir in 82 of police playing live from like 79. last listened to in the 80s? that memorable? senility?

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:26 (one month ago) link

Last three tracks on Reggatta are power poppish

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:28 (one month ago) link


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