In praise of...Music for the Masses by Depeche Mode

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...everything's all right tonight

Simple-sounding, but when you consider the song's about being in a drug-induced high, somehow appropriate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

after buying masses, i dug out black celebration ... and was rather unimpressed. i remembered it being dark and shadowy and angry; instead it seemed a bit weedy and plinky.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

a bit weedy and plinky.

Agreed. More like a Pinkish-Grey Celebration.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'd have to strongly disagree, but Dan will be able to say more about this -- while there's nothing as completely wracked in terms of sound as well as mood as "To Have and to Hold" on there, say, the whole second half of the album is a pretty dour (and dourly pretty) wandering through the emotional wasteland.

Unexpected highlight joy of seeing them at Dodger Stadium in 1990 -- Martin Gore, solo with acoustic guitar, singing BC album track "Here is the House," never released as a single or anything...and the entirety of Dodger Stadium singing along word for word, as best as I could tell.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I used to have this on cassette in high school. My favorite track was "Pimpf". I may still have it somewhere, though I haven't played it in years. This thread is inspiring me to dig it out.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Unexpected highlight joy of seeing them at Dodger Stadium in 1990 -- Martin Gore, solo with acoustic guitar, singing BC album track "Here is the House,"

I think I have a bootleg recording of this show ... if not that exact show, then another one on the "Violator" tour when he performed that song (which was very rarely).

One weird thing about "Black Celebration" is that the saddest song on it ("World Full of Nothing") isn't a very dark-sounding song at all.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm also tempted to pull this out...I haven't listened to it in two years, save for Christmas Day when "Agent Orange" got stuck in my head out of nowhere...it seemed really appropriate.

Track by track:
Strangelove
The Things You Said
Little 15
Never Let Me Down Again
Nothing
Pimpf
Behind the Wheel
To Have and To Hold
Sacred
I Want You Now

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nothing is tops for me!

Grell (Grell), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I underrate this album as well, I think. But Ned's post was so great that I had to put it on again. It is very good, and the arrangements are often really ace. I think my favourite tracks are "Behind The Wheel" and "The Things You Said" - the restrained dancefloor minimalism on "Behind the Wheel" in particular works so fantastically, and it's a shame that they worked that angle so rarely (the other ace examples being "It's No Good" and "Personal Jesus", although the latter is sort of off in its own world). I find I always want DM to go darker and darker, more muscular and physical (but not necessarily rockier), so "Behind The Wheel" is just perfect for me. But I love the bonus remix tracks on this album as well for similar reasons.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 January 2005 03:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But Ned's post was so great that I had to put it on again.

Well thank ya Tim, yours is a fine one in turn. :-) Those bonus tracks are certainly grand and maybe I'll do an adjunct post on them. Did you snare all the recent remixes that came out with the box set and the singles?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 03:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kudos, Ned. Kudos. You've just brought back a flood of high school memories - good ones, too: my Mode-head first girlfriend, bugging the DJ to play "Behind The Wheel" at school dances, teaching myself to play all the bass and synth lines from "Strangelove" on piano (and marvelling at the 12-inch remixes of same).

Along with New Order, Depeche Mode left an INDELIBLE mark on my musical development - I've forgotten how many times I've referenced / cribbed / ripped them off wholesale over the years.(Oddly enough, I've never sampled either artist.) Even though my own work has become increasingly house- and techno- focused over the years, these guys are still relevant as fuck to me.

I don't have my vinyl copy of this anymore, so it's time to go get this and Black Celebration in one shot.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 January 2005 03:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But--does Ned like it or what?

Seriously, that was a plummy spew of love, and I don't say that lightly.

Still, I prefer Black Celebration--it has that goth Liza Minelli thing you just can't find enough of these days.

igrey, Friday, 14 January 2005 05:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i think this is OK, though i prefer the DM stuff before it (and violator).

"pimpf" really is a pretty silly song, though.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 14 January 2005 05:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I too would like to voice my approbation to the Nedster for his fine essay. If I remember correctly, Music for the Masses was about the fourth album I purchased (I know I already had The The's Infected and the Pet Shop Boys' Please and Disco by that point), but it's not just nostalgia that causes me to regard it as one of my all-time top-ten albums (evah!), and my absolute favourite from the Mode canon.
Music for the Masses cast a particularly long shadow over the development of my musical tastes. It seems even now to have been a high-water mark in terms of imaginative songwriting and perfectionist studio-craft. (Would it have been such a triumph without the production and arrangement skills of Alan Wilder? I think not.)
101, the movie, brims over with arresting images, but a particular favourite is the scene in which one of the fans (the pretty blonde girl) dances to Nothing on the tourbus. She gyrates pertly as Dave intones that we must "learn to expect... nothing", and the congruence of sex and nihilism is so very Modish.
It's interesting that people assume that Little 15 is addressed to an adult. Maybe it's because I was about fifteen years old when I first heard the song, but I never imagined that Little 15's lover was anything other than a boy of her own age. Indeed, I don't think I've ever heard a song that so perfectly captures the all-consuming obsessiveness of the teenage love affair.

Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 14 January 2005 19:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's interesting that people assume that Little 15 is addressed to an adult. Maybe it's because I was about fifteen years old when I first heard the song, but I never imagined that Little 15's lover was anything other than a boy of her own age. Indeed, I don't think I've ever heard a song that so perfectly captures the all-consuming obsessiveness of the teenage love affair.

I always thought Little 15 was about a mother and daughter, with the mother wanting to recapture her youth through her teenaged girl.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 January 2005 19:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

EDIT: Whereas "A Question Of Time" from Black Celebration is clearly about trolling for underage booty.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 January 2005 19:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sound quality on 101 DVD = Dud.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 14 January 2005 20:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
and then i picked up a copy for six francs when i was on holiday in france last september

er, francs euros, i meant. jesus, i'm a twat sometimes.

grimly fiendish: noticing mistakes nine months after making them, Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

WELL JEEZ. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm glad you cleared that up.

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 13 October 2005 20:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

HOOOO

PEEEEEMPF

HOOOOO

PEEEEEEEEEEPMF

HOOOOOOO

PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMPF

HOOOO, Thursday, 13 October 2005 20:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sound quality on 101 DVD = Dud.
-- Chris Ott (edito...), January 14th, 2005

really? how so? it sounds fine to me.

piscesboy, Thursday, 13 October 2005 20:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Everybody please rank DM's albums, so I know what order to buy them (or when to stop buying them). I just got Violator, and it's the greatest thing I've every heard. What next...?

Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 24 October 2005 01:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'll leave out the new album, for even though I think it's one of their top two or three albums upon initial listens, it hasn't had time to sink in yet and be ranked along with the others. I'll also leave out the two live albums, just because.

Violator
Music For the Masses
Ultra
Black Celebration
Speak and Spell
Songs of Faith and Devotion
Some Great Reward
Construction Time Again
Exciter
A Broken Frame

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 01:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You rate Black Celebration and Speak and Spell higher than Some Great Reward. Is that the consensus?

Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 24 October 2005 01:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I can't speak for others here, but most fans wouldn't rate Speak and Spell as high as I did. Many ILM'ers rate Construction Time Again very highly, but it's never been one of my favourites.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 01:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I bought this album recently. For the first six tracks it is undoubtedly the Greatest Depeche Mode Album Ever but like Violator it does lose sa fair amount of steam towards the end (especially "Pimpf"--sorry, just can't get down with their weird medeival-goth instrumentals). Maybe I need more listens. The first six tracks (four of which I already knew going into it) do ensure this one total classic status regardless, though.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Some Great Reward is their best album!

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

and also this basic as hell guitar part which is ALL YOU NEED. It's like Gore loved playing anti-solos.

hey now, this may be true Ned, but if i'm remembering rightly this album was the first real use on DM records of any "guitar parts" full stop? and Martin was actually still learning to play i think, so it may have been basic as much from ability as intention. can't argue with the end result in any case though.

but, ah this just reminded me of some friends back in the day who always sang pimpf as "more..... beeer". brain surgeons, them.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

and Martin was actually still learning to play i think

Martin learned how to play guitar when he was ten or so. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I like Black Celebration the best - despite its reputation for darkness I think it's their best pop album... it's much cheesier than most people give it credit for

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

well i stand corrected then. (i was right about them not *using* them prev. to that tho?)

Kim (Kim), Monday, 24 October 2005 03:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The first guitar I can think of used on a Depeche track comes with a couple of brief bits during the instrumental break on "Love In Itself," beyond that I'm not sure.

By all accounts Martin composes most of his songs on acoustic or electric guitar, and he's well known for apparently always having a guitar with him or nearby, so it's not like he's afraid of the darn things. ;-) So in ways that's why I'm impressed with him as a guitarist -- he aims for the killer hook first and foremost, which in large part is why Depeche songs with guitar feature just that hook and nothing more, in that nothing more is needed. "Enjoy the Silence" is the almost paradigmatic example...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 03:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

no waaaayyyyy, there's guitar in that song?! i'll have to relisten and get back to you.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Heh, it's quite clear! The break basically alternates between four 'acoustic' bits -- some piano, a little guitar filigree, more piano, and then a soft, glam-descend-like guitar bit, and then back to Dave. None of these parts is longer than a couple of seconds, but they're not buried, and they're great additions to the song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Never close to my favourite album by Depeche Mode (as a matter of fact, the only album I like less is SOFAD), but I joined this thread to praise just one song: "The Things You Said" is one of the best things they ever did. An absolutely perfectly sad and desparate song, backed with synths that sounded like synths for once. One of their best ever moments.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

As far as I'm concerned, Depeche Mode as an album band does not exist before Construction Time Again. I really really dislike those first two albums (even though there are some songs that exhibit the greatness they would grow into on there, listening to either of those albums in their entirety makes me want to scream).

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

An absolutely perfectly sad and desparate song ... one of their best ever moments

yes. absolutely.

I really really dislike those first two albums

i have a soft spot for "speak and spell", although i think the non-album tracks that were later included on the CD (ice machine, shout, the instrumental any second now) are better than anything on the album proper. but there's an oddly beguiling mix of innocence and homo-eroticism about the whole affair that makes it more than the sum of its parts.

and "puppets" is quite simply ace.

i have "a broken frame" on cassette and "some great reward" on badly scratched vinyl, so those are the two i listen to the least (ie haven't listened to in years). the fact i've never bothered to get them on any other format says a lot; that said, my tastes have changed hugely since my early mode-buying days (14 years ago, mostly) so i know i should revisit them. IIRC there was one song towards the end of "broken frame" with an absolutely killer melody; and, as i think i said somewhere else, "precious" reminds me of it slightly.

i still don't own "ultra" and haven't heard it in its entirety. my bad.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ultra is easily the best of their 90s albums IMO; it's much more cohesive than SOFAD and it isn't completely forgettable two weeks later the way that Exciter is.

You should totally give Some Great Reward another spin, especially for "Lie To Me", "If You Want" and "Stories Of Old".

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I still rate Violator over Ultra in terms of the nineties albums but Ultra is really something, keeps getting better every time I hear it. Some older thoughts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Violator is really, really excellent but there's something about the level of familiarity I have with it that may cause me to unfairly underrate it.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, you. *beats Dan down*

Strictly speaking I love all the Depeche albums YES THAT INCLUDES THE FIRST TWO but there are those that are clearly a cut above. Ultra is one, Playing the Angel is another.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ultra is a little bloated -- it's an hour in length and it feels like a LONG hour when you listen to it all the way through. Compared to their other great albums (including "Playing the Angel") the songs sound same-y. I'm sure they wanted to capture a particular mood that would seep throughout the whole album, but "Playing the Angel" shows that they can do that while still utilising a large palette of different sounds. while Some of those five/six minute tracks could lose a minute or two, and the album could stand to lose about two tracks and 10-15 minutes. It's the only DM album that I would criticise for being too long (I believe it is their longest?)

Still, the good stuff on it is *fucking great* (the singles, THE BOTTOM LINE, Insight ...) so I love it despite its many flaws.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You're weird sir. (More specifically, let's hear you name a couple of songs to drop -- the brief instrumental bits don't count. ;-) )

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You could drop "The Love Thieves" and "Sister of Night" without hurting the album too much.

"Freestate" takes forever to get where it's going, but once it gets there, it's great. They could have chopped a minute or so out of "Home", as well.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm sure somebody will claim that "Sister of Night" is Dave's best vocal on the entire album. That may be true, but the song doesn't measure up to the other tracks on the record.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If anything, they need to add about 27 minutes into "Home" and make it into "This Corrosion Pt II".

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Make it "Insight" instead of "Home" and I'm with you.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

There is no way I'm going to dismiss Martin Gore's best melody line since "A Question Of Lust".

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Also, they should have made Jaki Liebezeit a full-time member. Only great things could have come of this.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Especially in their various album mixes.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, the single version of "Strangelove" is TERRIBLE and embarrassing tbh

I don't think there's a version of "Never Let Me Down Again" that I've heard that I've disliked, though

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

There is not one song on this album that I dislike.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I like the remix of "Behind the Wheel" that was on the single more than the album version (probably because I heard the single first)

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I had all of the remixes back in the day on a cassette tape, but I couldn't even tell you what they sounded like now.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I like this record but still prefer Violator even if I think about it for more than a few seconds the later album has as much filler.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:14 (five years ago) Permalink

violator is the ne plus ultra of zero filler albums!

Touché Gödel (ledge), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:25 (five years ago) Permalink

don't like "Blue Dress" or "Clean"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

well that's just crazy

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Great thread, yawl. What a magnificent op too. Love the love for Agent Orange, I keep going back to it. They have some very pretty instrumentals.

Ned, I hope you're going to vote in this one.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Alas, you'll have to make do without me.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:24 (five years ago) Permalink

booooooooooooooooooooo

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 22:49 (five years ago) Permalink

it would be politically and philosophically incorrect to know Ned's top 20 songs by any of his favorite bands. he gave us Ned's Nineties and anyone who dares connect the dots further from there is on their own.

pizza pizza and cult jam (crüt), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Our loss that any alliterative decades are a long ways off (unless he has a Scooby Doo-style change of heart in 28 years and brings us Raggett's Rirties).

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Now that would be a vision.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:46 (five years ago) Permalink

run rundred rirty eight best ralbums

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I always tend to prefer the album mixes of Depeche tracks over their single versions. For me, the single versions of 'Strangelove' and 'A Question Of Time' seem to lack the power that the album versions have. I suppose the Zephyr mix of 'In Your Room' is an interesting and different take on the song, but for me there is nothing more powerful than the 6-minute dark and atmospheric-as-fuck album version.

My favourite version of 'Never Let Me Down Again' is the one on 101 where they segue into the remix briefly for the middle section. I often find myself listening to it and wishing that they could have put that pulsing bass synth section into the album version.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I've always found 'Blue Dress' and 'Clean' closes the Violator album perfectly. Granted, neither of them are as anthemic as many of the tracks that came before, but those songs are definitely in the right place on the tracklist. The way that 'Blue Dress' segues into 'Clean' via that interlude piece is one of the highlights of the album for me!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Love the video for the album mix of Strangelove. They look so fucking bored in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yurcWr84s5I&feature=related

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Also I love that they're projecting this big heart shape on everything but stretched out it's like they're illuminated by a big nutsack.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:29 (five years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Party time is here again!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1560/24707332820_3da1b89669_n.jpg

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

So, happily borrowing some wording from my first post up there (but it's mostly all new):

http://thequietus.com/articles/23166-depeche-mode-music-for-the-masses-review-anniversary

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 September 2017 13:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Awesome piece, Ned.

I too was in Los Angeles at this time, too young to attend anything but old enouogh to have already be absolutely in love with music, and missing the Rose Bowl show was devestating to me at the time. Instead I sat on the backyard patio of my parent's house and listened to the KROQ broadcast of the event. I was bummed but I still felt part of something that was happening.

I don't know about other cities in the world in 1988 but it's hard to understate just how massive Depeche Mode were in Los Angeles at that time. It was Beatlemania when they'd show up somewhere. Even though I'd already become educated in and deeply affected by the entire New Order/Factory/Saville mythos by the time and was mostly consumed by that stuff, Depeche Mode still felt very much a part of everything that was important to me as I was becoming obsessed with music and this album is the sound of that time. In contrast, it took a long time for me to get into 'Violator' because of how minimal, angular, and cold most of it sounded to me in comparison.

yesca, Monday, 11 September 2017 13:36 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah I definitely take the point on Violator's 'cooler' feel -- which may seem strange given "Personal Jesus" and its massive stomp, but I think that also serves the album pretty well in comparison. When I first heard it on the day of release, I remember thinking from the get-go how sharp it sounded at points.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:11 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't find Violator an angular or cold record at all. There was a bit of a trend of synthpop acts returning to analogue synths in the early '90s. Behaviour and Chorus being a couple of other examples of this.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:19 (four months ago) Permalink

Well, you're wrong. :-D (I am busy and can't get into this further right now.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 September 2017 16:22 (four months ago) Permalink

Heh! I agree that the record feels minimal by comparison... Black Celebration and Music for the Masses are quite layered records and there's quite a fair bit going on under the surface, whereas Violator is simpler - not that this is a bad thing.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 11 September 2017 17:36 (four months ago) Permalink

whereas Violator is simpler - not that this is a bad thing.

Yeah I don't want to characterize the sound as a bad thing either. I love when artists evolve their sound into something equally engaging. I'm just saying that at the time I was used to previous two albums and 'Violator' felt like a lot of that symphonic approach was stripped away to reveal something Kraftwerkian.

This said, I still prefer the many layered and huge sounding approach of Masses over everything else.

yesca, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:46 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't agree with the characterization of Violator as "stripped down". It only really describes "Waiting for the Night" and mmmmmmmaybe "Blue Dress". The other 8 songs build and layer in much the same way the songs on Music for the Masses do.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:02 (four months ago) Permalink

The big difference for me is that Violator is a lot crisper, whereas the previous two albums (and some before) are very reverb-y. Violator is still quite layered though

Vinnie, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:33 (four months ago) Permalink

Violator is still quite layered in places but I think yesca is kinda OTM and that it is much less symphonic and a simpler record than the two albums before it.

Take something like 'Fly on the Windscreen - Final' for example, the mix on that is so dense and there's a lot going on that's buried in there, whereas something like 'World In My Eyes' gets by with a bass synth, percussion and a string synth that either provides the chords but just as often just provides these sustained single notes. Of course, there's things that pop up here and there as the track moves along - the backwards sound going into the chorus or the dink-dink dink-dink's in the chorus itself but bass synth, string synth and drum programming is the core of that track.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:09 (four months ago) Permalink


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