third eye blind -- classic or dud

Yay!

3eb still sux, tho'.

I'm almost done Weezer (mostly as I remembered - I still love "Holiday", like "In the Garage", don't mind a couple others, but don't get most of it). I'll get back when I've listened to Blue again.

"And I see you fogging up the mirror
Vapor round your body glistens in the shower
And I want to stay right here and go down on you for an hour"

Thats ok with me.

In perusing through antiquated ILM threads (hey, gimme a break, it's 6:20 am and I've been up for a bajillion hours), 3EB is a band I seem to fluctuate between liking, tolerating, actually quite enjoying and abjectly loathing. Sure, Jenkins is a shameless Ass Shogun and that whole business about portraying the Kinks? Oh do verily kid me not. But as I sit here in my office, blasting "Losing A Whole Year" out of my computer l can't help but think they definetely had something. There are several damn respectable tracks on that first record. The second record? Ehhh....not so much, and let's not even mention the third record (actually, can anyone even remember the title?) I compared them to Maroon 5 not too long ago, but I'm pretty sure Maroon 5 have yet to write a botched relationship song as on-the-money as "How's it Gonna Be?" or the afore-mentioned "Losing a Whole Year".

i *do* miss radio rock bands having shiny hooks instead of whiny sludge. all we've got in that dept today is, well, maroon 5 (who i don't have the energy to feel one way or another about) and the occasional linkin park single. the good charlottes and all of them don't seem to be trying as hard in the post-blink 182 era. actually, i've changed my mind. i don't really care at all.

{resets bar, low. replaces blood-encrusted handkerchief over wheelchair-bound man's face. brief tableaux. exeunt.}

DUD! There was actually a lively debate about how terrible 3EB were on the pavement list once. Whatever happened to the 3EB/Eddie Vedder rivalry that was playing out on VH1? FWIW, what happened to Pearl Jam?

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

-- Tantrum The Cat, September 25th, 2004.

especially when the song fashions itself as either a judgement or a self-aggrandizing "it-could-have-been-me" ode, which makes it UberDud. it's like an Ur text for duds. of course, it's also the gist of the American remake of Traffic.

no low spark for me.

Clearly it's opposite day.

I never thought the song was particularly judgemental either way. I haven't seen either version of Traffic so I can't comment on that.

Also:

SEX AND DRUGS ON THE RADIO OMG WTF

It's too bad there's already TV On The Radio (who are awesome), because Sex And Drugs On The Radio is a face-rockingly good band name.

don't give steven s0d3rb3rgh any "new" ideas!

Jim Derogatis' interview/dis of Stephen Jenkins is one of the meanest, most self-serving pieces of journalism I've read in recent years.

(dud....)

Not classic.......but still seems to hit me on a level most rock music fails to reach.

dont they have a new album coming out?
always had a spot for them

yes and it's called "Ursa Major", speaking of Superdrag

ha, the single

I can't stand the affected English accent but when "Semi-Charmed" or "How's It Going to Be" come on the radio I'm glad. I'm gonna pull a Nostradamus and predict that late 90s alt-grunge-make-out-rock ballads like the aforementioned "How's It Going to Be" or the Goo Goo Doll's "Iris" will eventually become the "Don't Stop Believin'" are-we-being-ironic-or-not-i-dunno anthems of a future generation.

I couldn't never get past my impression of Jenkins as a sleazy perv. 'Semi-Charmed' just confirmed all my suspicions to a catchy beat and as a band they just give me a mental block. my first thought is always "Erg! Yuk!"

I don't think the aforementioned songs (which I really like) are the right combo of ridiculous+good to become are-we-being-ironic classics.

'I Want It That Way' has already earned a place in that canon though.

I'm sure there are some others. That might be a good thread idea.

"How's It Going to Be" probably not, but I easily see a song as well known and over the top as "Iris" as taking a spot up there some day (the epic cheese factor for some 90s songs has yet to fully set in - we're still hearing it with somewhat fresh ears i.e. 1997 wasn't too long ago for many). And you should start the thread, would be fun to think about.

Yeah, maybe Iris. And 3eb are ridiculous...just not ridiculous in the right way. I'll make the thread.

undeniably classic. first album is completely unfuckwithable, love songs here and there thereafter as well.

Seems like as good a time as ever to share:

holy SHIT I can't believe someone saved this and put it up on youtube!!!!!https://t.co/SExDc9X4YK

— Bernard Snowy (@wasntmebro) August 22, 2020

For those not into blindly clicking links: It's the entire 1997(?) episode of MTV's Road Rules where the cast gets to meet Third Eye Blind and work on a suicide prevention PSA set to "Jumper"

OMG

Does it make me an asshole if I suggest that said suicide prevention PSA functions in part as a gift from the '97 cast of Road Rules to their future selves?

'It's okay, you may have done this twenty three years ago but it's possible to move past it and still find value in your life.'

thats amazing

jenkins really radiating his hardcore douchebag energy at the start of that episode

i imagine third eye blind band meetings are eerily similar to the alec baldwin scene in glengarry glen ross

otm lol

I know nothing about him as a person but based only on his songs he always seemed sorta like a golden retriever recovering from a mild head injury. My illusions, they are shattered.

https://open.spotify.com/track/4Z4Ijk6d8tcvNTULx9Lkty?si=AkE5lTi1SmqUlfdsx2Jicg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfZ0KSR7DBY

really excellent

nice

true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asb6jz8-UM

i am doomed to like every song this band puts out

u n me brad

new album is great, better than screamer in my estimation. definitely, explicitly their recorded-remotely "pandemic" album, coded into both the lyrics (which reference it directly and obliquely) and the sound (acoustic guitar-dominated, and for the most part the more muted side of 3eb, a la the second half of ursa major, but also occasionally fractured and weird, bc jenkins loves bon iver so much). there's also a suite of three post-punkish songs in the middle of the record ("dust storm," "the dying blood," and "funeral singers") and they're my favorite songs on it, especially the "just like heaven"-biting "dust storm," married to a lyric that really steeps me in my climate change feelings

actually, "funeral singers" kinda sounds like a long lost song from out of the vein, it's increasingly my favorite

got a link? whens this out?

tomorrow!

boom. ok ill giver a listen tomorrow

debut is 25 years old today. a perfect album obv

I watched John/Nick Cassavette’s ‘She’s So Lovely’ this week, & I noticed on the film’s IMDB page ‘Semi-Charmed Life’ is listed in the soundtrack. I did not hear it in the film. Maybe used for a trailer or something?

Today in weird algorithms: The "You might also like..." Spotify playlist recs under Third Eye Blind albums are about what you would expect --'California Rock', '90s Frat Party', etc -- but their recommendations for The Third Eye Blind Collection (3xCD compilation of first the three albums in full) are the "This is..." artist playlists for Big Sean, Pusha T, Jay-Z, A$AP Rocky, and Future

I don't know what the deal is...I wrote these dudes off as corporate himbos when they first emerged and it isn't even really my era (Ii was well embedded in college at the time and not listening to pop/alt radio at all at the time) so there isn't even the taint of nostalgia to explain it away, buuuuut...I'm really feeling the singles from their first album lately? Are...are they actually good? Were they growers rather than showers? 'Losing a Whole Year' is haunting me at the moment. 'Never Let You Go' has done this previously. Help. Help me.

first album is a no-skips classic!

LONDON

Top ten 90s album easy

god wait’ll you hear “thanks a lot”

God of Wine <3 <3

Those last three songs on loop for life

otm