Konono No1 - "Tradi-Modern" - This shit is unreal

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JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll believe it when I see it.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

did any of you hear the Ex tracks "covering" Konono No1? i thought they were pretty awful

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

came here through the "like rebore"-thread. a dutch online store catalogue entry mentions this
:
KONONO NO.1 - CONGOTRONICS
Release 25 oktober 04
tracks:
KULE KUELREPRISE
KULE KULE
LUFALA NDONGA
MAMA LIZA
MASIKULU
PARADISO
UNGUDI WELE WELE

willem (willem), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Crammed now lists this as available.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

looks like they've got a live album out too: http://www.subdist.com/terpAS-09.htm

(Jon L), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i put in a request at aquarius to carry it. i dropped the hipster cred points that they toured with the Ex and sound like the boredoms

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link

YAY! here's their response:

Hi Jason,
thanks for the tip -- actually we're pretty keen on them already. in
fact we're getting a live album in next week, and then the one you're
talking about, the studio album, we'll have when it comes out in
January. There's also a second studio album that's supposed to come
out later in 2005.
cheers,
Allan/aQ

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
more from christopherporter.com on December 1

Konono No. 1
"Ditshe Tshiekutala"
Lubuaku (Terp, 2004)

Thanks to Mark from Subterranean Distribution in Amsterdam for giving me the heads up that Konono No. 1 finally has a CD out. It's not the one I wrote about on Sept. 2, but rather a live soundboard recording put out on Terp Records, which is run by Terrie from the Ex. I once wondered aloud if Konono was the Fennesz of the Congo? Now I just call them The Very Reverend Konono No. 1 because they deserve that honorific---there's nobody like them.

Mark also writes, "You might dig on a little video footage shot during Konono's tour with the Ex here in Holland. The clips are pretty short and arbitrary, but they capture a tiny bit of the Konono ass-shaking machine live."
Clip one
Clip two
Clip three

The MP3 and videos are hosted on Subterranean's Web site, which is where you can buy Lubuaku.

Also, Crammed Discs is listing that Konono's studio-recorded Congotronics 1 is for sale now, but I'm not sure where to buy it in the U.S. because according to this list there seems to be no distro over here. But I'll put on my parachute pants and Sherlock Holmeslice hat and find out for y'all. Man, I'm just earnest like that, what can I say?

Meanwhile, Konono's home country continues to eff itself up with war.

steve-k, Monday, 3 January 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

let's not forget Joe Tangari writing about them at Pitchfork, too.

abeta, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link

this is great!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

It's pretty cool. I expected something kinda slammin' but that track is so happy and childlike. The lead parts remind me of Marc Ribot's guitar sound/playing.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
This disc is reviewed (under the "African Beat" column (?) by Martin Sinnock) in The Beat, 24:1 (the latest).

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

there are cd promos for the fat cat 12 in circulation (the 12 is a split with the dead c)

dh, Thursday, 10 February 2005 09:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Aquarius Records in S.F. has the CDs in stock. I can't recommend them highly enough

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Underworld just played this collective on Dirty Radio.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

daaaaaaamn

he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

damn the record is great

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Is this on slsk yet?

stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I ordered mine from Aquarius online a couple of days ago.

can't wait!

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I looked at the Fat Cat site and saw no mention of the split w/ Dead C (though I didn't look very hard; TIME CONSTRAINTS.) Does anyone know when the official release is? I don't think they will want to send me a promo, sadly.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

slsk: yes!

heywood jablomi (heywood), Friday, 11 February 2005 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

this is hot hot hot!

heywood jablomi (heywood), Friday, 11 February 2005 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link

this converted me:
http://www.crammed.be/craworld/movies/konono_promo.mov

eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't understand the fuss. Or rather I hope the fuss is not just cause 1) they're associated with and promoted by the Ex, 2) there's some extra fuzz in the sound, 3) homemade-instruments-made-from-junk, and 4) on top of all that, the music isn't bad.

I have only heard the mp3 samples and seen the video, and I think they're good, but the online excitement seems out of proportion (ugh, how common is that sentiment). I'd be particulary interested to hear someone talk them up who can compare them to other Congolese/West African recordings.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Unfamiliar rhythms and other other musical form with interesting distortion that makes it all sound sort of Rebore-esque, and a nice story to go along with it ("homemade-instruments-made-from-junk"). I think that's why I like it. It doesn't sound like any Congolese music I've heard, but I don't know too much about Congolese music.

RS, Friday, 11 February 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost - it doesn't occur to me to care why others fuss or dislike or listen or eat or don't eat something. personally i like distorted things, this includes things not usually heard with fuzz/distortion. i'll leave the socio-legitimizing (i made that word up) to the musicologists/proctologists.

eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

it doesn't occur to me to care why others fuss or dislike or listen or eat or don't eat something.

Ahh, I don't really believe that, given that you are posting and reading here. It would be boring if we all just agreed with each other all the time, right? Wondering why people get excited about things in onde direction or another is interesting, I think. Anyway, no problems, I hope.

personally i like distorted things, this includes things not usually heard with fuzz/distortion

That's what I was wondering about. I'm not criticizing that sentiment, just wondering if there's something else unique here that I was missing...

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i was bullshitting. it would be interesting to know how popular/relevant they are in their own country compared to other trad. bands.

but in re: "online buzz" surrounding things in general, it seems hard to qualify/quantify this sort of thing.

eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

felt compelled to comment, even though (in the interest of full disclosure) i'm 1) associated with the ex and 2) i like fuzz in my sound.

i think that part of the attraction to konono no 1 comes from the honesty of their sound, and a kind of return to pre-synth african music where rawness and rhythm take precedence over superclean production values and digestability...this may be their primary distinguishing feature when compared against the last 30 years or so of musc from Congo/Zaire (rumba, soukous, etc).

The other critical thing about konono is seeing them live...it's that crusty old adage about "not being able to capture their live show" on CD...for one thing, it's 3 hours long. and for another, you're dancing the entire time, even if you "don't normally dance." indie-kid armfolders, 60-year old Ex fans, and everyone else in the place was sweating and booty-waggling until late. i'm sure it helped immeasurably that it was a rock club, certainly nothing like the museums that most "world music" gets performed in. and lastly, the sound. there's not a single thing about it that distances you from them...it's more like the magnets in their homemade pickups are so strong that you're drawn toward the stage. you can't imagine being in the room with them and not coming closer.

anyway...just wanted to give you a first-hand testimonial, and assure you that what buzz there is (if any) developed out of the best intentions: to expose more people to unique, passionate music.

markemorse, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I love this record. Thanks for posting markemorse.

many of you probably already saw this, but christopher porter's blog reprinted a very lengthy letter from Vincent Kenis (one half of the wonderful band Aqsak Maboul) talking about how he came across the band, the logistics of producing the record, recording techniques etc.), I was almost expecting to see these as the liner notes but for now they're only here: http://www.christopherporter.com/2005/01/konono-no.html

(Jon L), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

For those like me who have been having a bitch of a time locating this, you can download it off of emusic.com, legally.

stephen morris, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Is the comp mentioned upthread coming out sometime, too? I love this Congotronics record.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Answered my own question. The 2nd Congotronics release will be the comp and it's supposedly coming out soon. Woohoo.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

we were in a bar last night and i kept saying "wow, this song really sounds like Konono No1, wonder who it is", and it was Marc Ribot from one of his Cuban records!

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
I like the split with the Dead C quite a lot. One of my old favorite bands, one of my new favorite bands, and it's only $8. Dead C = 5 locked grooves and three jams. konono #1 = two tracks.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Playing LIve at Joe's Pub in NYC in early November.
Getcher Tix early; they gonna sell out!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

oh shit.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the Konono #1 track on that split also on the full-length? Or do I have this wrong? I would probably buy it if it was a new track.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck I need paychecks

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know if it's on the full length or not. It's two tracks: "Lufuala Ndonga" and "Masikulu."

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, those are both on Congotronics. Great stuff, though.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i heard congotronics. really cool...need to purchase that soon.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

this is, like, the most revived thread in ilm history...

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I just bought 4 tickets for the the November show. I'm already excited.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
From the Earshot Jazz Festival lineup in Seattle:

Friday November 4, Consolidated Works, 8pm
Konono #1 (Congotronics)
Direct from the Congo, in their US premiere, something to behold: a twelve-piece combo playing driving township music with thumb pianos amped by car-batteries and salvaged parts, all embellished by busted hub-cap cymbals and found instruments.
$22 general / $20 members & discount

more info at http://earshotjazz.org

SO FUCKING EXCITED

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

ConWorks is a really great art space, really large, should be fucking insane.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.avantart.com/dez96/images/token.gif?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link

if you're trying to imply they're a token band of whatever sort at Earshot, um not hardly

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Aww, that'll be great. They almost got the UK earlier in the year, but there were visa screw-ups.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

heya curmudgeon, are you going to the kennedy center tomorrow? i think my bandmate and i will probably be there. i keep meaning to say thanks for hipping me to the mulatu show - it was incredible, although the giant smiling picture of rev. sun myung moon did its best to weird me out.

ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yea, I will be there (with notepad as I am reviewing it). I missed the Mulatu show and it's interesting to hear that you liked it. A friend of mine who is real picky about acoustics went to the show and grumbled that it started late and did not sound good technically, so he left after a half an hour.

Jess Harvell said upthread that he's coming from Baltimore for the show, and I bet Konono fan Christopher Porter, from the Suburbs Are Killing Us blog and Jazztimes mag, will be there. Plus as I mentioned earlier, the usual assortment of tourists and senior citizens visiting the Kennedy Center to get some 'culture.'

curmudgeon (Steve K), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't really have any problems with the acoustics - m's vibraphone coulda been a little louder, but overall i thought the sound was just fine. it did start and end late, though, but that wasn't particularly unexpected. way fewer broken flowers-types there than i expected.

ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I talked with Porter earlier, he's seeing K1 and BAUHAUS back to back.
There's a mindfuck for you.

Was anybody else at the Pub show?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I was at the Joe's Pub show. A lot different from SOB's right? I admire you if you actually made it down to dance. There wasn't much room but for 15-20 people down there. I had a nice table. Felt bad for all those guys standing in the back corner.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

btw: is there anyone who could .zip this thing (viz. - any one of their albums and/or Congotronic) up and YSI it? I tried SLSK and the local record store (or at least the one I checked) doesn't have it.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have access to it at work, but if you blog search "paradiso konono" you'll find several of the songs floating around

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

..."blog search?"

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe put "paradiso konono and blog" into google


I am pretty sure that the Kennedy Center will be showing the Konono No. 1 Tuesday November 22 6 p.m. Eastern time free Milennium Stage show live on their website, and then archiving it for later viewing.

http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/

curmudgeon (Steve K), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link

blogsearch.google.com

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

If you don't want to mess with parking near the K. Ctr. (or at the Center where it is $15!)..."The Foggy Bottom/George Washington Univ. Station (23rd and I) Metro stop in DC is the closest stop. From there it is a short walk via New Hampshire Avenue OR use the FREE Kennedy Center Shuttle (signs are towards the left as you exit the escalator). It departs every 15 minutes from 9:45 a.m.-midnight Monday-Friday..."

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

So I talked with the tour manager before the Kennedy Center show, and he told me that one of the megaphones got broken by the airline, and the other one was working during the early part of the tour till they blew it out. He also said they couldn't get visas for their dancers and some others, and that yes, they did not bring their home-made amps or mics, just their homemade pickups with the likembes, the congas, the rough-edged cymbal, and the cowbell like thing.

curmudgeon (Steve K), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i was wondering about that acutally. it didn't sound quite the way i was expecting though it was quite good. the whole kennedy center layout/vibe was wack as hell though.

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The atmosphere left alot to be desired. You should have run up front and gotten the dancing started! Actually, the ushers would have probably shooed you away. There were lots of ILXers and local critic types doing the indie-rock head nod. I once saw a New York based Brazilian forro group leap off that stage and march past a sitting, pretty staid crowd for their final song, with a drummer pounding away on a marching band style held drum. About 10 people followed him as he continued down the halls and outside onto the plaza. Everyone else just stayed there in their seats wondering what happened.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

There were lots of ILXers and local critic types doing the indie-rock head nod.

soooooooooooo me.

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

That includes me much of the time last night.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah, three people in my row got up and tried to dance and were tut-tut'ed by the ushers. even after being told to show appreciation by dancing by the MC at the beginning. laaame. still, good show.

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

btw zach, if yr reading, sorry if i seemed rude when you introduced yourself--i was rushing back to catch a train back to b-more for another show i had to cover last night. (a train i still ended up missing.)

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah, don't worry about it - nice to meet you and steve though. i too was part of the cadre of bearded bobbing boys in the back. sort of a bummer about the mics/speakers, and the venue robbed a bit of the impact, but still a good show.

ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The World Cafe Live! show wasn't bad! They took out the cafeteria tables! There was a small crowd, but it wasn't bad. The glowstick twirling ravers sucked. So did the Wilford Brimley character who insisted on jogging/dancing in front of me, regularly elbowing my chest to the beat! Exoticists/Orientalists = push since it was too cold for all cotton and sandals.

The band was great and v. charismatic. The NASCAR hats confused me.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Hey so, any other London ILM'ers going to their FREE gig tonight at Momo Bar off Regent Street tonight?

http://forum.resonancefm.com/viewtopic.php?t=1202

Grapperjoozer, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link

If I make it back from work in time etc. I will def. go to this.

I have black hair, a beard and black glasses and will be looking lonesome as I'll be on my own so any ILXors say hi. (Or email me beforehand.)

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:14 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
good times good times

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 May 2006 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Konno are gonna be touring the US again soon. They're playing indie-rock club Black Cat in DC soon. Hopefully the airline will be a little more gentle with their stuff this time.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

BLACK CAT BLACK CAT

hzjcxkl, Friday, 5 May 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that guy still standing out in front of the club saying that? I love the way he says it...Wonderful intonation

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Saw them last night at the Cedar Cultural Center here in Mpls...

really amazing. people like to throw around words like "joyful" and "life-affirming" but Konono really is.

Played pretty much 2 hours STRAIGHT...one endless groove that kept morphing back into itself, sort of like dance music where a melodic or rhythmic motif from like 5 minutes ago would reappear and then fade back.

I guess the sound was a little "cleaner" than usual because their sound system hadn't arrived from Europe yet, so they went through the regular PA.

Lineup was three thumb pianos, played by Awesome Happy Frontman, Man In Black Duster Who Kinda Looked Like Blues Legend Buddy Guy, and Grumpy Older Guy.

frontwoman did endless dancing and chipped in on vocals frequently, she can really move, wow i woulda been so tired!

three drummers...one on some wooden long african drums...one guys sitting down (who wore a soccer jersey and SCARF and tuxedo pants even though it was hell hot in there), and one (the youngest looking) on a number of metal cowbell type things and some homemade looking junkyard percussion stuff....

anyway, crowd was mix of usual hippies, college kids, noise scene dudes, and old dudes in beards and John Hiatt concert t-shirts - lots of dancing, clapping along...

the music is really rich rhythmically, was impossible even for stick in the mud me not to at least bounce around a little.

great band.

have they ever done anything w/The Ex? they should, that would be so awesome, this show kinda reminded me of the The Ex.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like the ex covered them a while back, but I forget?

jaxon, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

they did!

admrl, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

This was revealed to Alex In SF and myself by Jem Cohen at a screening of Jem Cohen's film of The Ex.

admrl, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but The Ex's cover (Theme From Konono on the second disc of Turn) is pretty goddamned bland and worthless. It's like, yeah, we like Konono too— let's make 'em sound really white!

I eat cannibals, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link


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