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[off-topic] j_o_e_b, does yr computer have a virus? i just got a superweird bit of spam offa you...150k email titled "Questionnaire" but seemingly containing...nothing. Just asking.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

charlie, i've has some similar stuff (not from joeb).

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 1 May 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

been listening to a few songs on this album all day and then... track eight - 'as serious as your life'! holy shit this rawks. much craze on the board lately with the manitoba's release and now new four tet. of the two, i've always been partial to four tet and pause & rounds are why. cannae wait tah see boef wif prefuse 73.

j.a.e., Friday, 2 May 2003 05:50 (twenty years ago) link

that prefuse73 reckid rocks! i was a doubter.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 2 May 2003 08:45 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...
Anyone heard the new Four Tet DJ Kicks cd?

todd (todd), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Just wondering because I can pick it up used, but know only a few tracks:

01. David Behrman - Leapday Night (Scene 1)
02. Syclops - Mom, The Video Broke
03. Curtis Mayfield - If I Were Only A Child Again
04. Heiner Stadler - Out-Rock
05. Gary Davis - The Professor's Here
06. Heldon - Les Soucoupes Volantes Vertes
07. Stereolab - Les Yper-Sound
08. So Solid Crew - Dillema
09. Akufen - Psychometry 3.2
10. Animal Collective - Baby Day
11. Madvillain - Figaro (101 Remix)
12. Julian Priester Pepo Mtoto - Love, Love
13. Four Tet - Pockets
14. Model 500 - Psychosomatic
15. Shona People Of Rhodesia - Taireva
16. Quickspace Supersport - Superspace
17. Cabaret Voltaire - Kneel To The Boss
18. Gong - Love Is How Y Make It
19. Showbiz & A.G. - Represent
20. Group Home - Up Against The Wall (Getaway Car Mix)
21. Autechre - Flutter

todd (todd), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like you've found a promo- it's not out until the end of June, at least in the US. Interesting tracklist, though- Gong?!

Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm mebbe worth a check

"late night tales" is great

Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

that tracklist screams ableton live
can't wait to hear it myself!

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

New EP is good. Wing Body Wing is probably one of the better tracks. Kinda sounds like a cross between Pantha Du Prince and Invisible Conga People's 'Cable Dazed'. Glad he's momentarily stepped away from the folk-tronica tag, ugh what a term.

oscar, Thursday, 20 March 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Hijacked from the Burial thread, the sample B1 here

For this sounds amazing, even compared to his 4/4 stuff, it sounds more more kind of at the same time plain and unlike anything else I've heard by four tet. Absolutely lovely, pitty it has to be on a limited, fetish-object release.

formerly: mehlt (Edward Saroyan), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

that 'ringer' EP was fantastic. he's really on a bit of a run lately!

butt_hurton (haitch), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw the 2XLP for $10 but didn't buy it (figured it get it later, but haven't seen it at the same store since)

:(

formerly: mehlt (Edward Saroyan), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

This is pretty wicked. Goes very nicely with the Field record.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 May 2009 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Liking that a lot

stet, Friday, 8 May 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Plz to tell more?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 8 May 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

2 tracks, approx 9 minutes each, collaboration between Burial & Four Tet, very ambient-ey sort of.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 May 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Limited 12" or download as far as format goes.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 May 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh right.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 8 May 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

not so limited, already repressed.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link

hopefully this pressing will sound less arse than the old one.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

the press release for his upcoming fabriclive sounds good, like this new track locked off it. like a lot. seriously love this guy but he has never made a release that is wholly satisfied. there is love in you didn't go far enough in the direction he's been headed post-reid for me (ringer, the burial collabs etc.)

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Saturday, 13 August 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

His new Fabriclive mix is pretty excellent

Number None, Monday, 12 September 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

yes looking forward to giving this a listen. lots of obscure garage cuts apparently so right up my street.

sam500, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

heard this remix of a track from Nigel Godrich's new Ultraista project the other day on Gilles' 6music show and I'm putting it here because Kieran has completely smashed it (and makes the original seem pedestrian by comparison). Srsly, this is *awesome*.

http://soundcloud.com/indietheka/ultraista-smalltalk-four-tet

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Also new from Mr. Tet, not sure if it's being discussed elsewhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyQVPNo_X7Y

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

I have been binging on Mr Tet lately so I am happy to have some new ones!

I know ILM has generally been down on Mr Tet but god damn there is nothing he can't make sound good w a sparkly remix. I've been on the fence about Ultraista but I'd listen to Mr Tet remixing the sound of the rubbish collectors this morning TBH.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link

It is really annoying not being able to view/listen to anything with Flash at work.

Psychedelic Space Jellyfish with harps is SUPER DOUBLE PLUS GOOD. I think I've just been so captivated by the video, though, that I'm not really processing the song. I'm not sure about the bass, though. Don't know that wob suits Mr Tet. But who cares, it's all wibbling harps and things.

Ultraista, though. I feel vaguely disappointed with myself that I am utterly failing to be captivated by it. Come on, it's got my name all over it, why is this not total WCC catnip? I don't know if I'm being overly suspicious of something which feels *too* marketed to me, but if a Four Tet remix can't make me fall in love with a song, I don't know that anything will.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

So the proper download of Pink has been out for a week or so. He's doing absolutely no marketing for it. Who's listening? Off one (distracted) listen I wasn't sure it hung together like a proper "album" (excuse my old fashioned rockiest ideas), but it was a distracted listen in the midst of house-buying chaos. I'm just whacking out on the iPod so I can play it via the Zeppelin and hear it in space rather than headphones.

Seemed like plenty of bass, to be fair.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 25 August 2012 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

Been listening to this all week, it's fantastic. I had the same 'not a proper album' issue at first too, but I suspect part of that is psychological, given that I know it's a singles comp. If he'd just released this music straight off as a single piece, I'm not sure I'd have given it a second thought.

'Locked' & 'Lions' are the highlights for me so far, really strong opening.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 25 August 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link

I need to spend more time with it because, argh, massive amounts of playlists due to various things been floating around this week.

There were a couple of moments I really really loved, but can't recall off hand the song titles.

But this feels a lot less like an album as a collection of songs, and more like a collection of extended 12" remixes, if that makes any sense. Like, this is a collection of pieces aimed for dancefloor playing as opposed to something he's sat down and planned out like an album, like the others were. Which is fine, I like it, it's just a different approach, and probably why he's not treating it like a big deal release.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 25 August 2012 08:26 (eleven years ago) link

You're right -- it is a collection of previously released 12"s, plus 2 new tracks. Both of the new tracks are long and mostly static. They're lovely, especially the twinkly Peace for Earth, but don't do much in the context of the album. I think it'd work better as an album with something more direct in the 2nd slot (128 Harps, maybe) and Peace for Earth moved to the end.

Locked and Pinnacles are 2 of my favorite tracks from the past year, and I'd rate Pyramid and Jupiters up there too. Love the way the percolating bass on Pinnacles drives the momentum forward and the splashy piano chords take it up to the, um, pinnacle. The triplet accents in the bass line and the off-beat timing of the piano chords drive me to OCD fits of finger tapping and air piano (on my desk, anyway), trying to sort out how the rhythm fits together. Irresistible. I've listened to a lot of Jazzanova style jazz house over the years -- this is miles ahead.

Most of Pinnacles is sampled from Buster Williams' 1975 album/track Pinnacle (starts ~4:30):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAW5GTMA7bU#!

Bonus: bassline for The Choice is Yours at 1:20

misty sensorium (Plasmon), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry that's Noble Ego, not the title track.

Meanwhile, "this is truly glorious":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsDMkDtU9qs

misty sensorium (Plasmon), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

Always find it amazing when someone takes 5 seconds of something and turns it into 8 minutes of something else.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

OK after wandering through the woods to this album yesterday, it has finally clicked. I think it's because it's such a wonderful build of a thing. The first couple of tracks didn't really catch on for me, but everything from 128 Harps out just gets more and more beautiful as it goes along. I'm completely in love with Atoms For Peace For Earth the way it turns from "still really a Dirty Dronerock boy at heart" wibble and then slowly builds in intricacy - and then Pinnacles of course is the pinnacle.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm really starting to enjoy this.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Nice review, Nick.

Would feel more inclined to buy it if it was available on CD.

djh, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

At my age, 'Peace for Earth' is just fine.

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

aw i thought i was a right smart arse when i was trying (and failing) to make a house track sampling cage last night, i'm a smart nothing.

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

"Peace For Earth" is great -- my favorite.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

yes it's lovely. not really feeling the rest of it so far.

jed_, Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

Love this and would compare it favorably to the John Talabot, as Sick Mouthy did on his blog.

A side note, John Talabot uses all hardware to write his music. Whereas I think Four Tet is software.

Funny that the software music here feels more "organic".

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not saying that I dislike the John Talabot at all though, its just a different kind of skewed melodic indie friendly dance.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

That's bizarre re the hardware / software divide.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I don't make music at all, so I'm surfing entirely on instinct, but some stuff sounds like it's from real things making noises and some stuff doesn't.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link

There have been far too many bytes spilled already over the difference between "hardware music" and "software music" (well, at least, if you spend a lot of time in producers' forums.) It's kind of a fool's game unless you have ears like Owen P. I'm not even sure what people are trying to get at with this "sounds organic" or whatnot, or indeed what a "real thing" is. (I mean, if you sample a drum that someone played 50 years ago off a recording, chop it up and rearrange it entirely in software in a virtual DAW, what does that mean when you say it sounds "real" as opposed to someone building a drum machine from scratch using electrical components and is triggered by a manual intervention in real time, but it happens to go "plink" instead of "thump"?)

Anyway, I like this album more and more the more I hear it.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 07:49 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I was vaguely aware of this being out, but I didn't know today that it was digital only. Felt a little foolish after wondering why I couldn't find a physical copy at any likely outlets.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

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― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, March 21, 2024 4:33 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Great review. There is Love in You will always be my favorite but agree with your comment that he's never made a mediocre album. Totally agree with your comments on Jason Evans's artwork.

Indexed, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 15:14 (three weeks ago) link

thanks for sharing that review, very otm

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 28 March 2024 05:36 (three weeks ago) link

I went back and listened to a lot of his discography after the new one dropped. Everything Ecstatic is very mediocre to me still (felt the same way when it came out). Just feels way to mired in self indulgent noodling. Nothing sticks to you, and sounds closer to a spastic, jazz freakout record, which may or may not be your thing. In the context of Four Tet's aesthetic it was not my thing. Startling how that one is sandwiched between two of his best, most iconic and career defining records. There Is Love In You genuinely felt like a "comeback" album when it dropped.

octobeard, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:48 (three weeks ago) link

Four Tet is an artist who, for a very long time, I felt distinctly "meh" about - an indie rocker's idea of electronic music: pretty enough, but flimsy and anaemic; neither quirky or interesting enough to compete with the IDM/Warp crowd, too sketchy and bodiless to count as dance music, and lacking the satisfying largesse of chilled out home-listening music by contemporaries such as Bonobo or somesuch.

Then a few years ago he started releasing stuff that really made me sit up and pay attention. It was like he'd had some sort of production evolution where suddenly his productions were lush, enveloping, hypnotic and super-satisfying. Loved the more dancey stuff too from KH and some of the remixes and collabs he was doing - definitely someone who had finally grokked onto the idea of music made for soundsystems rather than Apple speakers.

So I'm realy not sure about this record: It really feels like the kind of thing he'd have released ten or even twenty years ago. Pretty, but simplistic chiming melodies, box-ready drum-loops, a noticeable thin-ness and lack of overall bite. It's nice, but it's too nice for me.

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 12:17 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah this sounded a bit like an early 00s indietronica record to me too. Nice but anaemic. I keep hoping it will push past the politeness and go somewhere interesting but it never does

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:35 (two weeks ago) link

idk if i agree. are "31 bloom" and "three drums" polite indietronica

ivy., Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:51 (two weeks ago) link

what impresses me about this record is how often it shifts approaches and palettes while remaining cohesive. feels like a four tet greatest hits on some level (not complaining)

ivy., Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:54 (two weeks ago) link

Three Drums is a standout and made me keen to hear the album. But yes, washy shoegaze moments aside I'd say it's a fairly tame piece of music. I've heard vaguely Boards Of Canada'y drumloops like that too many times in my life to feel super-hyped over something like this. Same as the shoegaze influence I guess; I mean, it's cool and all and I the track is "nice" but shoegazetronica isn't something that's going to blow me away in 2024.

31 Bloom is as polite as it gets as far as I can tell. Again, it's not unpleasant, but that paper-thin house beat makes me feel like I'm listening to a Kompakt Total compilation on a shower-radio.

So Blue is my fave so far, I like the vocal snatches and the laid-back jazzy feel.

Mostly it's the rhythm on this album, and a lot (but not all) of his other work: Too often it's a vaguely pretty melody just slipping in and out over a jazzy hip-hop drum loop straight out of a Grand Central compilation from 2001; not much in the way of low end. It's all a bit Grizzly Bear for my tastes.

I know he can do stuff with bite. Mango Feedback was great, really effective. Teenage Birdsong was sweet and felt satisfying to listen to. His stuff as KH fkn SLAMS. So he knows his way around a beat. Just here it sounds a bit reserved, dare I say uninspired, rhythm-wise.

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:08 (two weeks ago) link

I'm with DL, it's his dance singles that really hit for me these days.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:45 (two weeks ago) link

this is nonsense, four tet has and always had some of the best drums in the business, instantly recognizable

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:45 (two weeks ago) link

corrs otm, i've never been a super big four tet fan. i like him just fine, he has never made a fully classic album tho.

that being said, even i've jacked his open drums on several occasions because they're always fucking sick.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

"Three Drums" and "Daydream Repeat" are loud.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

neither quirky or interesting enough to compete with the IDM/Warp crowd

As one of those IDM/Warp peeps from the late 90's, Pause and Rounds felt iconic and essential when they came out, and sounded as good and as "new" as any IDM record I was listening to at the time. Was refreshing to hear acoustic sampled instruments configured in a very mid 90's melodic IDMish style, with hip hop at its base. Evoked the vibes of Susumu Yokota and Boards of Canada to me, while feeling fresh and distinct. I revisit Four Tet's older records far more than I do by anything from Bonobo from that same era.

octobeard, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 18:44 (two weeks ago) link

Whatever people think of Four Tet, Bonobo has always struck me as Diet Four Tet.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

Bonobo is Fisher Price Four Tet.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 18:25 (two weeks ago) link

My First Dancey Melodic Electronica Record.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 18:26 (two weeks ago) link

octo otm. it's more post-rock but I also go back to Dialogue a lot

default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 19:24 (two weeks ago) link

When I mentioned Bonobo I was using it as a shorthand for "pleasant chill-out music for normies", which isn't really a slight because everyone needs relaxing beats to chill to/study to.
But as others are saying, Four Tet should be way beyond and outside of that realm, especially at this point in his career. I just don't hear it on this album.

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 20:59 (two weeks ago) link

Is anything on Three as good as, arbitrary example, Flim? No. But Three Drums is close, as is Daydream Repeat. Is it chilled beats to relax to for normies? Wtf is a normie? I’ve got two kids and I’m 45 next month and I love this record and I saw Four Tet live in 2003 etc etc etc.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:34 (two weeks ago) link

my favorite four tet thing is that madlib album he put together a few years ago

brimstead, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:37 (two weeks ago) link

Okay so the hierarchy goes

Bonobo = Diet Four Tet
Four Tet = Diet Aphex Twin

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 23:31 (two weeks ago) link

What is Aphex the Diet version of? VSnares? Ae?

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 23:33 (two weeks ago) link

don't think Four Tet compares to Aphex much at all, maybe Boards of Canada though. I always did think Pause kinda made me recall my teenage years the same way MHTRTC makes me think of childhood

VSnares is definitely a Four Loko by the way

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 23:52 (two weeks ago) link

love this new one. very simple, very effective

ciderpress, Thursday, 4 April 2024 01:19 (two weeks ago) link

What is Aphex the Diet version of? VSnares? Ae?

the real snob move here is to say that his emotiveness can't compare to the Detroit guys

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 4 April 2024 02:50 (two weeks ago) link

Four Loko? That's like the US version of Buckfast or something isn't it? In which case, definitely.

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Thursday, 4 April 2024 14:00 (two weeks ago) link

the real snob move here is to say that his emotiveness can't compare to the Detroit guys

― default damager (lukas), Thursday, April 4, 2024 3:50 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Real snobpinions

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Thursday, 4 April 2024 14:01 (two weeks ago) link

xp yes indeed though I'd bet anything Buckfast tastes better. also important to note Four Lokos cost about $1.99

frogbs, Thursday, 4 April 2024 14:08 (two weeks ago) link

there are very few things that Buckfast tastes better than

Number None, Thursday, 4 April 2024 14:11 (two weeks ago) link

last time I had a Four Loko I thought it tasted like someone dropped a bag of Jolly Ranchers into a pint of paint thinner

frogbs, Thursday, 4 April 2024 14:24 (two weeks ago) link

Does anyone else hear 'Storm Crystals' referencing 'Ending (An Ascent)' around the 4-minute mark?

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:43 (three days ago) link


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