C/D Paul McCartney Solo

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I used to like "No More Lonely Nights", but only for Dave Gilmour's solo at the end.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:56 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Mamunia" from Band on the Run was good, except for a bunch of out of tune guitars. Also, the cooing harmonies in "Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five" always get me. "Dear Boy" from Ram, also the short little title track. He's really always been good in spurts (yes, even today).

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Coming Up"!!! classic

dave q, Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:54 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

My favourites from WINGSPAN: Bluebird, Junk, Waterfalls, Tug of War, Pipes of Peace, virtually everything that was on WINGS GREATEST back in the day.

Favourite videos: Goodnight Tonight, Pipes of Peace.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I like that "simply having a wonderful Christmastime" song (ducks)

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten that one. A classic of its genre, instantly recognisable despite using all the Christmas cliches.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:06 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Half a C: MCCARTNEY II. This is, by Macca's standards, a completely outre work. Recorded solo-style after breaking up Wings, it's full of strange experiments that occasionally work amazingly well. "Coming Up," "Summer's Day Song" and "One Of These Days" are all great songs, completely void of the usual antiseptic sheen of Paul's post-RAM work. "Frozen Jap" and "Front Parlour" are pleasantly out-of-character instrumentals. You'll want to skip the rest of the LP, though, especially "Waterfalls" and "Darkroom."

Also C: "Jet," "Too Many People," "Let Me Roll It," "Spin It On" (Wings go thrash!)

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 13 February 2003 22:54 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

oh, yeah, I do love 'pipes of peace' and 'simply having...' too.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:33 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Don't forget C moon!

RSPMJLGH (Piano Man), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Or "Rock Show"!

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 14 February 2003 01:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

WINGSPAN shall be my chosen listening today.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 10:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I recently rediscovered my 'all the best' cassette that my dad gave me one christmas when I'd asked for george michael's 'faith.'

good old dad.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

1987.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 11:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

RJG, your story moves me.

the pinefox, Friday, 14 February 2003 13:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Bizarrely, I bought that for my dad. It's one of the few compilations to celebrate the Frog Chorus. Not even the three-dimensional slipcase makes up for that oversight on WINGSPAN.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 February 2003 21:11 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

: )

I don't think I've even seen a copy of WINGSPAN in a record store.

I reminded my dad about the 'all the best'-for-christmas thing on friday night when we were in a car. he didn't really remember. he said "and why did she [my mum] buy you that instead?" and I told him again and he understood. then he asked "and why did you want 'faith'??" and the answer was...I was six...I had seen it advertised on television.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 February 2003 05:54 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i second 1985; that song is really fun... when i was a kid, i used to really enjoy making up stupid lyrics to "let me roll it" like, um, "i can't tell you how i sneeze, my nose is like a breeze - let me blow it"... somehow that joke never got old for me!

dave k, Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:27 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

WINGSPAN seems to be on special offer everywhere now. But tread carefully, some of them have boring two-dimensional sleeves. I see there is also a WINGSPAN book available, which must be a real treat. More alarmingly, I saw a bootleg of something called the ROCKESTRA in action. I thought ROCKESTRA was just a piece of music, but no. Fortunately, the bootleg was really expensive, so I didn't get it.

Yes, COMING UP is great.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:19 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Here's the book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316860328/qid=1045408789/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_3_1/026-5101041-0610836

It's an intimate scrapbook.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Miller, you're wrong. I've NEVER seen WINGSPAN on special offer ANYWHERE.

Capitals are the new italics.

the pinefox, Sunday, 16 February 2003 16:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.fnac.es/dsp/?servlet=extended.HomeExtendedServlet&Code1=4235268501&Code2=85&prodID=338673

If that's not a special offer I'll EAT MY HAT. Note controversial opinion expressed herein: the best solo Paul McCartney work did not appear until FLOWERS IN THE DIRT. Before anyone rushes to order it, please note that it appears to be two-dimensional.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:57 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Every Night" from the first solo album is an idyll of a song, very "Railways Conserve The Environment" 1970 (as opposed to, you know, RADICAL 1970) indeed. I'd have liked it if he'd written "Come And Get It" slightly later so it could be his first solo single, because it's better than "Another Day", or if he'd written it slightly earlier so it could be a Beatles single, because it's better than "Hello Goodbye". The promo film for "Helen Wheels" is fantastically evocative. "Hi Hi Hi" is better than "My Ding-A-Ling" precisely because it *isn't* "in the tradition of the music hall" (the hilarious reason given by the ultra-conservative Charles Curran-era BBC as to why it was still playing Chuck Berry's lowpoint when it had banned the Wings song in December 1972). It's also better than "C Moon", the glorified B-side which stole the airplay.

I used to listen to my mum's copy of "All The Best" all the time. On vinyl, too.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Spies Like Us.

amazing.

Love Coming Up and C Moon too.

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Every Night is wonderful. I have a fondness for the Pipes of Peace that might be spoiled by listening to it again. I wasn't the only 9 year old to have it in my class. I liked 'The Man' off that (w/Michael Jackson) a lot.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:57 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

You should give Pipes of Peace a listen and Report Back, N. The tablas make it curiously modern in the current climate. And the sentiments are obv. very much in vogue.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 09:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Following on from Robin's wishes for Macca to write songs a bit earlier... I've always had this strange dream that the four Fabs actually sat down at some point in early 70, said "Let's forget about 'let it be' and make one final fine EP, one song each..." and they end up doing "Instant Karma", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Isn't it a pity?" and "It don't come easy". Now that would have been good.

And then I wake up.

I had "All the best" on CD for many years, never listened to it, but I'll agree that "Venus and Mars" is a neglected classic, as is the first McCartney LP, very primitive but rather homely.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 February 2003 10:55 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

nick has heard PIPES OF PEACE again, recently--maybe he just didn't notice/doesn't remember.

I had dreams about WINGSPAN last night. or it featured in my last night's dreams. I think it was really big and cost one hundred and twenty-five pounds or twenty-five pounds and was sealed in plastic and didn't tell me the tracklisting.

record shopping w/ allyC, yesterday, we saw many mccartney/wings albums. WINGS AT THE SPEED OF SOUND looked OK but was on cassette and three pounds fifty.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

SPEED OF SOUND is one of the weaker Wings efforts, I think. "Wino Junko," "Must Do Something About It," "Cook of The House"...no thanks. "Time To Hide" and "Beware My Love" are OK in a '70s AOR sort of way, though.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:39 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

'silly love songs' must redeem all.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I don't hate that much of his studio solo stuff (don't love it either, most of it) but that new live album...the man's lost his voice and won't quit trying. Please, please stop, Paul, for your own sake. You suck like Billy Joel.

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 17 February 2003 16:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I meant the Pipes of Peace album, RJG. I heard only two tracks off it in your car.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:45 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

There's a PIPES OF PEACE album?!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It is not all remixes of the title track, sadly.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:33 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It has 'Say Say Say'!

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Are those the two tracks you heard in the car?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:42 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes. It was RJG's famous 'All the best'. But I think 'The Man' is also 'the best'. 'Average Person' is not so good, as I recall.

Does anyone else like 'Hope of Deliverance'? I think it has a haunting melody.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes. It's on heavy rotation in my head, helping me face up to the darkness that surrounds us.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

N, did you know that eric stewart of 10cc played on the Pipes of Peace album?

p.s. 'for your love'+'bus stop'=gouldman.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I was thinking of Bobby Gould.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Wasn't Pipes of Peace the one with Stanley Clarke?

dleone (dleone), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:42 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Weren't you actually thinking of Graham Gouldman, Nick?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, a mixed solo/Wings career, yet on the whole good I would say; the 1970-75 period produced generally excellent records, likewise 1978-83 (though not the poor 'Back to the Egg'...). 'McCartney II' (his best 'solo' album; most experimental and consistently engaging) & 'Pipes of Peace' (some lovely McCartney pop here) are very underrated albums. 'Tug of War''s best material is much as fine, yet it has some glaringly awful tracks which let it down. 'Red Rose Speedway', of the Wings era, is overlooked; probably the most Beatles-esque of all his post-Beatles albums, with a splendid 'Abbey Road'-like medley to close. Also 'Single Pigeon', 'When the Night' & 'One More Kiss' are deceptively slight, charming compositions. 'My Love' is a majestic McCartney ballad with wonderful guitar breaks... 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' ornate and richly produced melancholy.
'Venus and Mars' (increasingly getting some credit; good to see) and 'Band on the Run' are excellent as well. As is 'Ram' of course, a one-off record, pre-Wings, and yet with a superbly ramshackle focus to it; some very good material - a far better whole than 'McCartney'. 'London Town' - overlooked classic, with mostly fine material; 'I'm Carrying' is sublime... some good upbeat numbers here as well.
So, all of the above 'Classic' really... oh, plus 'We All Stand Together'; light-hearted whimsy given grandeur and grace... 'Once Upon a Long Ago'; amusing, quotable lyrics; a great production, sound and musical invention; fine single. 'Golden Earth Girl'; far and away ahead of most of 'Off the Ground', a majestic, atmospheric song. 'Wanderlust'; prime McCartney, would have graced a Beatles record... indeed George Martin's production and the arranging of the counter-melody harmonies bolster what is already a fine song into something special... 'Tug of War'; a song that gets in your head - brilliantly conceived melody and again production.

Dud: 'Wings at the Speed of Sound', 'Flaming Pie', 'Driving Rain' (a little better than 'FP'), 'Press to Play' (interesting yet not successful experimentation from Macca in 1986...) & 'Back to the Egg' (consistently average, only 'Old Siam Sir' makes any real impression).

Many albums of his i'm mixed about... yet, overall 'Classic', I maybe go towards this strongly as the general consensus is so unfairly a 'dud' opinion. You have to look deep into his work, and will find much that is good...

Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:43 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Macca on tour alert! Let's all go! Hits BCN at the end of March, must be in a town near you around about the same time. Well, same year. Hopefully I will be in a different town by then, but I might come back specially.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it.

mike a (mike a), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Only if people promise to biggie up 'Waterfalls'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:58 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

why did ally cook lie and say he'd answered this thread?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 22 February 2003 01:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

OK. Given All The Best by father also. Heard it again in Richard's car. Silly Love Songs perfect. I like other songs also.

Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it

Too late, it was in the issue with Santana on the cover.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:38 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

No one mentioned 'Arrow Through Me' from Back to the Egg. Other than that, side one of 'Ram', 'Maybe I'm Amazed', bits of McCartney II... yikes, though. yikes.

If one's scratching one's head about how badly Paul's solo cheese wears on the nerves, try the following experiment: program disc one of the white album to only play Paul's tracks. Starts off okay but the unrelenting 'Ob-la-di' to 'Martha My Dear' to 'Blackbird', by the time it gets to 'Rocky Racoon' you'll be clawing your face off.

Jon Leidecker, Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

'So who wants to start a McCartney II viral revisionist campaign? It's only a matter of time before MOJO picks up on it'

Search ILM for 'Coming Up' and see how many times I've mentioned it, and how far back these mentions go. Absolute classic

dave q, Friday, 28 February 2003 11:20 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I love Propaganda, Horn and Lipson and feel confident in saying that song eats it.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:07 (two years ago) Permalink

Shifting gears, I'm digging into Pipes of Peace on Spotify. Notwithstanding its rep as "leftovers from Tug of War," this is a more interesting and experimental record than it is given credit for – certainly more interesting than its predecessor's somewhat unremarkable exercise in formalism and LA Express smooth jazz. Paul's melodic touch is in good form throughout – I've always been a fan of "So Bad" (which received pretty heavy airplay on MTV IIRC) and "The Other Me" is a minor hidden gem. "Average Person" could be straight off London Town were it it for the more modern production. Also both MJ collabs, "The Man" in particular, are high quality. All told, there's less filler on this than any other post-1975 Paul record I can think of.

Also, given that his slide into 80s survivor mode would otherwise feel almost too easy, I appreciate the left turns on this record: the Linndrum sound, the sawing Martin orchestrations on things like "Keep Under Cover," and the weird mashup that is "Tug of Peace."

Demos on the expanded version, particularly on oddball stuff like "It's Not On," show he was very much on his game – and point to some of the studio experiments he'd be exploring in the years ahead.

A pleasant if extremely belated discovery.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Hmm. I completely disagree, to be honest, especially about the comment about it having less filler than any of his post-1975 albums... I think Pipes of Peace is one of McCartney's weaker albums, although it has a fair amount of highlights on it. It's certainly down there near the bottom of the pile for me. What he really should have done was release the best of the stuff as an EP, and perhaps bundled it with Tug of War as the Pipes of Peace EP.

I'd say 'Pipes of Peace', 'Say Say Say', 'So Bad' and 'The Man' were the keepers. Destroy the rest without hesitation.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's what I thought ... and then I re-listened to it. Far more holds up than I remembered.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:16 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I don't listen to Driving Rain as often as some of McCartney's other LP's, so it's been quite pleasant to revisit how fucking awesome 'Rinse the Raindrops' is.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 21:17 (two years ago) Permalink

'rinse the raindrops' is incredible, but you have to stop the album before 'freedom' starts playing

fucking pop records (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:18 (two years ago) Permalink

it's like following a banquet with shitty vanilla ice cream

fucking pop records (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:18 (two years ago) Permalink

I couldn't agree more. 'Freedom' is def. bottom of the pile McCartney for me. Something like 'Rinse the Raindrops' though, shit! ... when McCartney leaves us and the obituaries are being written and people finally dig deep into his post-Beatles discography, they're gonna hear things like 'Rinse the Raindrops' and go "fuck! I never knew McCartney was doing stuff like that!" and I'll be like "told ya!"

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:30 (two years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

New Swede Mason is relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4EcRPlaXoQ

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 26 August 2017 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

fantastic

yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

it has been a long time since i've seen something as funny

niels, Sunday, 27 August 2017 01:20 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

That is hilarious. A friend just sent me the Swedemason clip and I came here to post it and ... that's the most recent post, from almost a year ago.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:08 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

New single:

Paul McCartney’s latest single is produced by Ryan Tedder and has a chorus that goes “I just wanna/Fuh You” https://t.co/UGy3MNKCM7

— Stephen Thomas Erlewine (@sterlewine) August 15, 2018

I don't know what to say other than I find it ... very catchy.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:20 (ten months ago) Permalink

just another in a v long line of embarassing Macca sexual innuendos

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

"fuh" doesn't even rise to the level of innuendo

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:40 (ten months ago) Permalink

Ha! I like the fact that McCartney is still doing shit like that at the age of 76.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:23 (ten months ago) Permalink

this is the age of the horny septuagenarian

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:31 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm sure our British fans will hate this, but I thought it was pretty fun, and even kinda moving:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjvzCTqkBDQ

DJI, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

fans members

DJI, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:39 (ten months ago) Permalink

The new song sounds like something Ed Sheeran would toss off and discard for being too sappy. It's not like it's Paul's first ever misstep, of course, but even at his worst he's always sounded like he's following his own ideas, this isn't even that.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:07 (ten months ago) Permalink

That’s about the least charitable reading of this possible but it may not be far off. Throughout McCartney’s solo career he has followed his various muses – one of which is to do “his” version of artists he admires. It’s led to some of his best stuff (“Arrow Thru Me” = Aja-era Steely Dan, “Summer Day’s Song” = BaAS-era Eno) and plenty of pablum. Perhaps this is his Sheeran nick. Or maybe it’s just his Viagra-era update of “Press.” Regardless, I love that he’s still doing it.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

“I just wanna fuh ... YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!”

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:56 (ten months ago) Permalink

FUH! All Night!

DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

it really sucks

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:40 (ten months ago) Permalink

Maybe he's calling back to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S80fSH0V9c

Eliza D., Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:44 (ten months ago) Permalink

His voice is near enough Fuh'd at this point.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

right there
that's it
YES

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

what is this shit
https://open.spotify.com/album/7piDt78gLATzAQv5JtQ4I7?si=pIvG0pnuTCmYQAqmixrXug

niels, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 07:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Love how the solo in "Maybe I'm Amazed" is the best George Harrison approximation he could do. Also the muted guitar in the second verse (I think -- about 2:15). Never paid attention to this song, but really digging it (this week).

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:00 (three months ago) Permalink

Man, I've taken "Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey" for for my entire life. There's so much to love in it -- the chirping, the harmonies ("allllbehhhrt...ahhhhl daaaay"), his voice in the Admiral Halsey part, "leetle leetle gypsy get around"...What a song.

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:32 (two months ago) Permalink

If pushed, that or "Another Day" would be my POO Macca solo song.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 21 March 2019 05:28 (two months ago) Permalink


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