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A Cookbook for Poor Poets (and Others) by Ann Rogers

(favorite tip: "only three ingredients are really essential: good bread, butter, and a bottle of red wine")

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

and if you like baking bread you might already know this one, but if you're just getting interested:

http://www.amazon.com/Laurels-Kitchen-Bread-Book-Whole-Grain/dp/0812969677

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Persian Cuisine by M. R. Ghanoonparvar (as recommended by Ned)--I can vouch that the recipes in this one are tasty as tasty can be, but I've never cooked from it.

Bread Alone by Daniel Leader is perfect if you want to make a ritual out of making your own bread. There's a great buckwheat banana bread recipe in there too.

The Tassajara Recipe Book by Edward Espe Brown is great for vegetarian things, and also for developing a sense of what makes food good.

patita (patita), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The Tassajara Recipe Book

Yes, I highly recommend it.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, I'll third that indirectly, I am positive Stripey's mentioned that before as well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

its true that the Joy of Cooking is pretty indispensable. Its very matter-of-fact and can tell you how to cook pretty much anything... as for Indian cooking, Madhur Jaffrey's okay, but some of her spice preparations - ugh. I have another recent favorite that I've been sticking with but I got it in India and forget the author's name (bah!)... my other most used cookbook is probably Eula May's Cajun Home Cooking. Oh man that is some good shit.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Seconding the Slater recommendation...this one in particular I've used a lot.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1841154709.02._PE34_OU02_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

And this one is great if you've got kids who want to help out.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0340826363.01._PE50_OU02_SCMZZZZZZZ_V39900417_.jpg

As for destroying cookbooks - Nico Landenis 'My Gastronomy' is perhaps the only cookbook I've ever bought where I cooked nothing from it. It was just all too difficult!

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I won a Rachel Ray cookbook a couple of months back and still have no idea what to do with it. It's not that the recipes were difficult, they were just...weird. Like spaghetti w/barbecue sauce.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my most cherished dreams is that she will die from her own cooking.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

No love for Fannie Farmer on this thread? It's my go-to book, not that I cook much these days...

mikef (mfleming), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

As mentioned before on ILCooking I swear by the sainted Elizabeth David's French Provincial Cooking. If I'm stuck on a point of technique I'll nearly always refer to Leith's cookery Bible as Prue nearly always knows. The Moro cookbooks are always an entertaining read and the recipes are practically foolproof. Slater thirded, as his sheer exuberance takes a heart of stone to deny. Like Ed I have the Les Halles book but don't have a lot of call to use it.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I've used les halles a couple of times (and read it cover to cover like a normal book) but it's one of those books where you have to set out, almost on an expedition to make something from it rather than dip into it for something handy.

The Moro books are both good yes - I like them a lot an dthey seem so enthusiastic over the food (restaurant is good too) The Fino book isn't bad either, but it's just not as.... warm if you know what I mean.

We have the first three river cafe books - barely use those.

Gennaro Contaldo's Passione book is pretty decent

(yes, I'm twisting round and checking out the cookery bookcase :)

Matt - how are *things*

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

BBC Books' GoodFood Magazine series is pretty cool. Wee things, not much bigger than a CD case. I just have the vegetarian one. Shiny picture for every dish, no ingredients I've not heard of, and everything I've made has been fucking tasty.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Things are progessing tolerably well, ta. It's waiting for estate agents and solicitors to get their respective acts together more than anything else, nearly everything else is in place

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

We have loads of cookbooks but the only ones I regularly (or thereabouts) use is NY Times Cookbook or the Joy of Cooking and mostly for various techniques or sub-recipes. As to new recipes, I think we get most of them from friends or from the SF Chronicle or from the Food Network.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The only cookbooks I've actually used:

-The James Beard Cookbook for interesting stuff, or interesting takes on normal stuff. I think it automatically opened to the sour cream pancake/waffle page.

-Some Better Homes & Gardens cookbook for boring stuff that I still didn't know how to make.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

ditto what M. White said - new stuff we try is always from friends, Food Network, or (most likely) Grandma.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i just boil everything. except toast sometimes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1843401150.02._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1100882320_.jpg

I absolutely swear by this.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

That must look odd in court.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Only when I make a hash of it.

Cough.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Oyez!

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

This has been a favourite of mine recently:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moro-Cookbook-Samuel-Clark/dp/009188084X

chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll fourth that tassajara

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The Healthy Cuisine of India: Recipes from the Bengal Region by Bharti Kirchner is a really great indian cookbook. no sexy pictures, but the text makes up for it in terms of clarity and quality.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Lord Krishna's Cuisine is an awesome cookbook. Some of the recipes can be quite complex and a bit daunting at times. (I've borrowed it from a friend but don't own it.) A really simple Indian cookbook that will teach a lot of fundamentals is The Spice Box by Manju Shivraj Singh...I've made that pink lentil daal like a million times. Lots of pickle recipes.

Mastering the Art of French Cooking by Julia Child and Simone Beck is great and you'll become a pretty decent cook if you use it once in a while. Truss a chicken, make a white sauce, do a gratin a few times and you're in. You must like the butter though.

pj (Henry), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yet another vote for How to Cook Everything. This book isn't just recipes, it really teaches you how to cook, and it's even enjoyable to read. I can probably credit about 60% of whatever meager cooking knowledge I have to this book. Also when you make one of his Indian recipes it actually comes out tasting somewhat like Indian food.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I also really love to find Junior League or church cookbooks when I'm at a thrift store or in another city. A great Louisiana one is called River Road Recipes. It's got like one of those plastic-ringed binders and it looks like it was made on a mimeograph machine.

I guess destroy most cookbooks that come with crock pots or other consumer appliances. Microwave cookbooks can also go away.

pj (Henry), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the thing to do with books like Lord Krishna's Cuisine is to just make it your project for a week or two - set aside four dinners (more if you can!) to using recipes from it, getting the feel for the processes. Spend a couple of Saturdays learning to make the samosas and make a chutney or two, too. If you make the full recipe you have so many left that you gotta give 'em to neighbors and stuff and the looks on their faces when they're eating a homemade samosa are so priceless that it gives you enough encouragement to keep going.

There is a "Recipes from Lord Krishna's Cuisine" book that's mainly the not-quite-so-intense recipes.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I always like to rep for that book because it, along with Bernard Clayton's New Book of Breads, totally changed my life!

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, How to cook Everything is really great.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And as a matter of fact I'm using it now to do a pasta with cauliflower dish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

No love for Fannie Farmer on this thread? It's my go-to book, not that I cook much these days...

also my go-to book. and since i'm the only one of my roommates who brought a basic cookbook, it gets used in our house probably every other day.

i ordered this tassajara recipe book, or some variant of it, through interlibrary loan a few days ago because i've heard good things. i'm pretty excited.

i've had pretty mixed luck with the georgian feast, i'm not sure what to make of it. georgian food is just so good, but i can't ever get the khinkali to not fall apart (maybe my fault, but still!), and the khachapouri tastes like pizza without the sauce.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

This book isn't just recipes, it really teaches you how to cook

this is the best part. it's great for the whole "what's in my fridge/cupboard?" dilemma. just find the section of the book that deals with your particular ingredient (green peppers), and find a recipe.

too many cookbooks assume that ppl know how to cook. they don't.

also: the tassajara bread book is double-awesome.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I've been a lazy cook lately, just relying on what I know and cooking whatever. I really wanna cook some Indian food really bad but my girlfriend is a little asian-phobic and I've been breaking her in slowly with phad thai and vietnamese stir fry. I remember a particular sweet potato fritter from that Lord Krishna book that was a-may-zing.

pj (Henry), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

And behold, said recipe I mentioned:

http://static.flickr.com/109/272723017_fff3708919.jpg

The importance with this and anything else from Bittman is that it is easy to do, teaches you something about how to put a dish together, and is infinitely protean -- the possibilities of additional seasonings or ingredients to taste is obvious in a dish like this. This is only half, the rest I've set aside to work with tomorrow in terms of other seasonings.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, that's making me want pasta right now, and I've already eaten dinner!

One thing that I think would be handy for a cookbook to do, if one hasn't already, is to make an appendix of spice combinations that work well together and work well with certain foods, like just a quick reference guide, i.e., I want to grill lamb, give me some ideas.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

mint!

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

(for real, you could make a tzatziki w/ plain yogurt, mint, dill, parsley, garlic, lemon juice, and maybe some cucumber)

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

a balsamic marinade is also good with lamb.

I am very fond of my Charmaine Solomon's Vegetarian cookbook. Also, the classic aussie bible A Cooks Companion by Stephanie Alexander.

I tend to read cookbooks for inspiration though. I dont follow recepies for anything except exacting stuff like baked goods (bread, cakes etc).

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I just meant the lamb thing as an example.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like that too. i hate bland food, so i tend to overdo spices sometimes to overcompensate, which ruins a dish in its own way.

Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

not sure how good it is as a cookbook (I've barely made a dent in my Bittman), but she ran a really great noodle shop back in the day...

Marnie Henricksson, Everyday Asian: From Soups to Noodles, From Barbecues to Curries, Your Favorite Asian Recipes Made Easy

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

seconding some one up thread the river cottage meat book, if i had to choose a religious text that would be it

secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Also it is heavy enough to humanely stun the beast of your choice.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

What do people do for web sites? Do any of them stick out as being great? I used to use Epicurious a lot, but there are so many recipes on there that it started overwhelming me - I had no way to winnow out the wheat from the chaff.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I signed up for a free trial at http://www.cooksillustrated.com/ but it's a bit too soon to say how good it is. I love the magazine though. Yeah, some bits are really annoying, but I love the fact that they try all sorts of different things perfecting recipes and share the results with you.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes I find that difficult as well, I have found a million fried chicken recipes but no idea as to which is good; I have anthony easton's grandfrather's fried chicken recipe though so I think I am on the right track. (Hand , we should do a peer reviewing social networking type foodie site, we will mint it when we get bought by google.)

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

BBC Food's a really handy cooking resource.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Another vote for Fuschia Dunlop.

As well as the Hunan and two Sichuan books she has a couple of others.

‘Every grain of rice’ which is a more general every day Chinese cookery book.

‘The land of fish and rice’ which is cuisine from the Jiangnan (Lower Yangtze) Région

All highly recommended and highly accessible but Every grain of rice is the one I use the most as it is really focussed on everyday cookery.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

I've cooked about half the Sichuan book and idk max 3 recipes from "The land of fish and rice". Not sure I have an explanation.

She's great in any case, her memoir is a good read too.

coptic feels (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

I’m probably about the same ratio. I think I just love the spicy bombast of Sichuan food.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

where is the love for OLIA HERCULES? I've been working my way through Kaukasis and Summer Kitchens, and I have a pot of bubbling green tomatoes at the ferment, but ultimately I'lll just say she has a love of food that everyone should engage with.

timber euros (seandalai), Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

i've had kaukasis on my cookbooks list probably since it came out but never bought it. what does she do with green tomatoes? i am supposedly getting a batch in my farm share tomorrow and have never worked with them.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

J. Kenji Lopez-Alt put out a kids book with recipes if anyone wants to cook with their progeny

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

nice of kenji to remind anyone who missed it the first 5000 times that he is a dad

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link

lol do u need a minute cad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link

haha he had a kid and then instantly altered all of his bios to read like this: J. Kenji López-Alt is a stay-at-home dad who moonlights as the Chief Culinary Consultant of Serious Eats.....

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

I lost track of him after the Food Lab book came out and he cut back on writing to open a restaurant, didn't even realize he had his own cooking channel until last month. His videos rack up a crazy number of views for a guy wearing a GoPro and chatting.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

his videos are good! he's still one of the best out there at teaching people how to actually cook but could otherwise stand to relax a bit.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

His videos are good fun, I trust his recipes and I enjoy peeping at his kitchen and fridge

Change Display Name: (stevie), Saturday, 24 October 2020 08:38 (three years ago) link

kenji's zucchini basil soup (on youtube) is KILLER

flopson, Saturday, 24 October 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

His pressure cooker chile con carne is a winter staple.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

Nice. ive always wanted a pressure cooker

flopson, Saturday, 24 October 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

pressure cookers are great

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 October 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

Instapot mania seems to have died down but I still use mine once or twice a week. The stovetop pressure cooker I had wasn't worth the effort for the extra pressure.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

don't have place for a pressure cooker, and am not sure I need to cook my food that much faster, but I liked reading about that J. Kenji Lopez-Alt Chili Con Carne recipe

Dan S, Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

it calls for a dutch oven, which I do have

Dan S, Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

yeah had to grudgingly admit the instant pot is way better than a stovetop pc

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/01/quick-and-easy-pressure-cooker-chicken-lentil-bacon-stew-recipe.html

another incredibly good cold weather recipe but I swap out the bone-in/skin-on thighs for boneless and a little bit of gelatin powder. Pressure cooked chicken skin is gross and more trouble than it's worth to fish out.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

made that one a few times, it's quite good

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link

I have tried more recipes from Ottolenghi's "Jerusalem" than most other cookbooks over the last few years I think. After many years I'm still impressed by Patricia Wells' "Bistro Cooking" especially, but also "The Best Recipe" book, the Silver Palate books, and Madhur Jaffrey's books

Dan S, Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

i've had kaukasis on my cookbooks list probably since it came out but never bought it. what does she do with green tomatoes? i am supposedly getting a batch in my farm share tomorrow and have never worked with them.

― call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 October 2020 01:58 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Recipe in Kaukasis is a mostly-straight fermentation recipe - cover in brine with various flavourings, leave bubble away for a week or two until they taste fizzy. There's another great/simple fried green tomatoes recipe in Summer Kitchens - the secret is to cover them in a huge amount of cheese after frying.

timber euros (seandalai), Monday, 26 October 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

yeah had to grudgingly admit the instant pot is way better than a stovetop pc

― call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 October 2020 1:04 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink


really? tell me more... my stovetop one has broken and i’m looking at replacing. was thinking that browning things would be the biggest issue with instant pot?

just sayin, Monday, 26 October 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

it has a sauté function, can't say i'm a big fan of it because it tends to get too hot and hard to control but it's ok for browning meat or onions before pressure cooking

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 26 October 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

Re: Instant Pot, it's better than a standard pressure cooker, imo, but not better than a slow cooker. Or at least not a 1:1 replacement. If you want to use it as a slow cooker, you have to kind of adjust the time/temperature to compensate. Fwiw, my Dutch oven is pretty much my most go-to big pot.

I heard something good about a cookbook called "Feast," apparently a broad survey of Islamic cuisine around the world, but I saw one review that said the book was OK but ultimately not for "most American kitchens." I figured, OK, it's going to be some rube bristling at hummus or sumac or something, but no, it was a recipe for ... roast camel hump. And I thought, yeah, that is pretty exotic. Can I even buy a camel hump? A quick look suggested no, at least not easily. But I soon enough came across the cookbook author's blog expressing big enthusiasm for camel hump, and, curious, read up to see where she got it. And she concedes that the easiest way to get a camel hump is ... from someone cooking an entire camel. Not a big one, mind, just a small one, but an entire camel all the same, which I'm pretty confident isn't any easier a get. And I thought, you know, this cookbook is probably not for me.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

i've never used it as a slow cooker and also haven't used my slow cooker (iirc) since i got it. there's probably nothing i would slow cook instead of pressure cooking for 1 hr - 90 min.

i've never encountered a recipe for camel hump! i think i have a book with sheep's brains, but no hump. even if i could get that i'm not sure i would cook it because what if i don't like it? there is a grocery store here that i think is owned by yemenis and has a butcher shop attached to it, could probably get a place like that to order a camel hump. probably deliciously fatty.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 26 October 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

really? tell me more... my stovetop one has broken and i’m looking at replacing. was thinking that browning things would be the biggest issue with instant pot?

― just sayin, Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:48 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

for me the stovetop pressure cooker involved just enough monitoring that it outweighed the convenience factor. having to wait around for it to come up to pressure so i could reduce the heat (my stovetop is aggressive) and then making sure that it stayed at a happy pressure meant i was just staying in the kitchen as much as i would for any other operation, where ideally if i wanted to do a pot of beans it would be a set and forget operation. so the instant pot takes care of all of that.

the saute function isn't amazing but does the job for onions and stuff. if i needed to brown something really carefully i guess i would do it in a saute pan, deglaze and transfer to the instant pot, but that hasn't come up.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

A lot of instant pot recipes we've found and like aren't just toss everything into the pot and let it go types. They typically involve growing meat or veggies first on sautés before locking everything else in there. Honestly, we love to use the IP most for hardboiled eggs!

Anyway, for the record: https://www.anissas.com/camel-hump-finally/

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

I bought Jerusalem right before moving and never quite “bonded” with it for lack of a better term, I really should go through it again for ideas

joygoat, Monday, 26 October 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link


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