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Ugh. Just finished writing a variety of checks to various governmental authorities, one of which was healthily into four figures. That'll teach me to do freelance book projects.

Taxes suck, but I like to think that my check is earmarked for non-killing government stuff like NASA telescopes or NEA grants or the OSHA for Kids web site.

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting a total of $1,500 in refunds. Hate me now.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

I will, thank you (as I owed a bit myself, but not too much thankfully).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I'll hate too, thank you very much.

I'm told that the loan for the house I'm buying is structured in such a way that I can deduct the entirety of my mortgage payments. Something smells very Fat Tony about it, but if true I'm really looking forward to that.

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting a nice refund myself, but don't hate me, as it's pretty much all getting funnelled right towards paying off other debt.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting a pretty nice refund, although I think I missed out on some deductions I could have made and wasn't QUITE sure about some of the things I did deduct. I won't be able to spend it on anything fun anyway.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

I won't hate you Girolamo since, according to the other thread, you are supposed to be dead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

My refund is better than your refund

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

There's a death-and-taxes joke in there somewhere, but I'm too busy hatin' on the folks getting refunds to think of one. (xpost)

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

I got a small refund about a month ago, after filing my taxes about three weeks before that. I've begun to utilize the assistance of the same woman my mother goes to, at an H&R Block place. She is the absolute best and makes the whole process go as smoothly as possible, which is really great because Lord knows there are more than enough headaches one can encounter in one's financial life without even going into the whole "taxes" issue!

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:43 (twenty years ago) link

Gah. All I have to say is, fuck a self-employment tax.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago) link

I just telefiled for the first time. Easy as pie. But then again, I'm single and only worked one job last year.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
I spent all day today going through mounds of receipts from the last five years, to prepare some back taxes. I'm probably gonna owe big time since I didn't file from 2000 on. (I tried to for 2000 but they wanted rent receipts and I didn't have 'em; I wasn't on a lease then. I haven't had one till last February, actually. Should be interesting.) And HOLY FUCK do my hands hurt! Cab receipts are TINY. ALL receipts are tiny, in fact.

I'm trying to get it done by Tuesday so I can just go to my accountant's and be like, "here's the stuff, it's done, go to it." Then I get to watch my hard-earned checking account drain away. Sigh. It'll be worth it to have it behind me, though.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Did 2002 already; the other years are separated out. So I have to go through 2000-1 and 2003 and figure out my total income and deductibles. I'll go to it tomorrow; right now I'm beat (and at the office, where all the paperwork is, eurgh.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link

2004 will be done during normal tax time, as w/everyone else.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I finally did my Taxes for the last financial year yesterday. It was a lot easier than I'd built it up to be.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 16 January 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, if it weren't for all the damn bits of paper (five frickin' years' worth, ugh) so would mine be.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

whoo, that sounds awful matos! Things will be a little worse this year for me than usual because I have to figure my and my husband's taxes separately, then together to see which way is better, but at least I'm fairly certain there's a refund at the end. Back taxes, yuck.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 16 January 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
okay, exactly how strict are they about monitoring moving expenses? mine may or may not be work-related, in that i left michigan with one job, then drove to oregon, and eventually got another job.

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Everyone having fun yet? (Calculated mine for feds and state today and essentially have a 'refund' in that the amount I set aside regularly each year to cover things beyond withholding will barely need to be touched, so I'll apply the balance to the Euro trip -- most handy.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 March 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

oh fuck I have to go to an accountant soon

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

A nice refund this year, for once. My accountant suggested that I use it to make all of this year's quarterly estimated payments in advance and I said "hahahaha... no."

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

ever since i learned they have people who correct your mistakes, i just fill in random numbers and send them all my forms and stuff to "double-check".

jones (actual), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So, yeah. 1099-MISC from City Pages, roughly $2500 in "self-employment" earnings. Do I use Schedule C, Schedule C-EZ or Schedule F (for profit/loss from farming)? Probably not F, of course. But I can't figure out how to use the other two. And then I guess I need Schedule SE on top of it all?!

Nothing was taken from that relatively small amount of profit, but I assume it will absolutely drain any chance I have at a refund. (The last few years have been just under $1K.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I used turbotax online this year since I had some tricky stuff, I totally loved it. It cost like 50 bucks for the state and federal combined though.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

oh shit, i should do mine soon.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

GO FUCK YOURSELF STATE OF CALIFORNIA

I can't see how I can possibly owe you two grand. I'm sure there are people who make twice as much as me who don't owe fuck.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCK A TAX DAY

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Have fun!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Argh...

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

We owe the same as Kyle. Fucking ridiculous.

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't done mine yet. I'll do them tonight or tomorrow.

I r queen of last minute taxes.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I still don't get how you end up owing two grand (esp. in Kyle's case, hasn't had the same job all year.) Is your company fucking up what they take out or is their a withholding screwup? Crazy!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

2 grand! How horrific. :-( That's gotta be some fucked up withholding thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

You need a system like the British tax system! - good, solid, reliable, British!

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.armchairhawk.com/images/mainsmall.jpg

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

got mine done 3 weeks ago -- got my fed refund last week, my NY refund (all of $9) is due tomorrow.

suckahs :-P

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I did my taxes months ago and already got my money back ($200 for federal and about $250 for state.) It was nice.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

arr i need my refund please send me my refund

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the amount that if you make less than that you don't have to pay taxes?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Damned 1099 income. Instead of the usual grand I get. I'm only getting $250 from the govt and then have to take $180 out of that to give to the state of MN. Damn.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I ended up in a situation similar to Eric. My Fed. refund is paying my State taxes.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

hey just be thankful that you don't have to pay taxes to TWO states -- BOTH of which have some of the highest state income tax rates in the country!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Tad, sweetie, how much do you have to make in order to pay taxes?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

$7,951 and up and you have to file

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I was owing a few hundred dollars because of federal self-employment taxes on the 1099 from my band, so I had to come up with all sorts of music-related deductions (all the cds I bought, gear, gas, rehearsal space food, etc.) to get in the red.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(gross)-federal.

xpost

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i just got 5 bucks more on Telefile than what I calculated myself. sweet.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

did you ask for your refund to be direct deposited jody? I did and it happened within the week! It was great!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks for the baseline! I searched all over the IRS site and couldn'd find it.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It’s more common to get a correction letter than be audited… like way way more common. Lmk if anyone is interested in hearing more about this… I seriously don’t want to take up space with this stuff if no one gaf

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:24 (one week ago) link

You're in the right thread, have at it

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:30 (one week ago) link

I am deeply interested

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:16 (one week ago) link

Full scale audits are too expensive to impose them on us little people.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:19 (one week ago) link

I'm in a slightly weird spot myself -- not the end of the world -- where my initial returns went in, but I only got partial refunds back; turns out my preparer -- who I've used for many years! -- missed a bit of coding, so had to send in amended returns. The remainder from the state came back in a week but I haven't seen anything yet from the feds, and given all this there's no way I can immediately track the progress of that amended return. (Unless I'm missing something? Any advice welcome! But larger point here -- table, you're not the only one seeing a delay, so I wouldn't fret here.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:20 (one week ago) link

xp lmao it's like if chatgpt got an ilx login

https://trac.syr.edu/reports/706/include/figure2.png

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:53 (one week ago) link

I tried the new free Fed online filing system... just 100,000 used it, so I feel special. We'll see if my refund actually shows up

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:57 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_YMrHssFXo

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:57 (one week ago) link

that’s what i used too

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:27 (one week ago) link

Full scale audits are too expensive to impose them on us little people.


Lol … I have actually seen it tbh. It was actually a real problem… and got called out for the racism inherent in it. It’s easier to find mistakes and discrepancies in the tax returns of poorer people and the IRS hadn’t devoted much to training staff on more complicated tax issues. However the IRS has recently decided that they are going to devote time and resources to… auditing wealthy people and complex businesses entities! Amazing!!

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:48 (one week ago) link

So … the things that could happen that not getting your refund in 3 weeks could indicate:

1. It might show up next week because of their processing cycle.
2. The IRS thinks there was a mistake:
2a. The IRS fairly primitive computer system matches what you report on your tax return to what others have reported as having been paid to you or received from you.
2b. The IRS rarely gaf if you fail to report student loan interest paid or take a deduction for mortgage interest… so usually it’s an income side mismatch.
2c. If you failed to report income of a type they have on record that you received or if you reported less than what they have on record that you received, they will most likely send you a correction letter.
3. This is a classic pass-agg document that says “you said this” … “however we think you should have said that. If you disagree, file an amended return or contact us, otherwise we will assume we are right and you owe us money.” The document will also come with instructions how to pay them what they think you owe.
4. Sometimes they are wrong.
5. Unless you agree with their corrections, it’s often best to file an amended return because there are potential deductions in relation to the income that the IRS is not going to calculate for you.

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:01 (one week ago) link

Ime the most common things the IRS catches and sends correction letters on are:
1. Unreported self employment income
2. Investment income that is in your name but a relative deals with the account and you don’t have the paperwork sent to you so you often forget it exists (see also: aging parents)
3. Unemployment income for short periods of time
4. Cashing out a retirement plan or life insurance policy from a former job especially if there was hardly any money in it to begin with
5. A w2 from a job you quit in January that you forgot about and they sent it to an old address

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:07 (one week ago) link

6. Investment income from a stock plan from a company you no longer work for because brokerage firms will often not report the basis of employer stock so when you sell it it shows the cost basis as 0 and it looks like you made a huge profit

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:09 (one week ago) link

The IRS fairly primitive computer system

every year I get a letter from them about 1099s and it's like "Sorry, but the name doesn't match the SSN#" and invariably the name DOES match the actual SSN# but their 1953 scanners read the name and/or SS number wrong

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:16 (one week ago) link

We had an issue where the IRS kept saying we owed money that had already been paid long before. We had the receipts and everything, yet every two to three months we went through the cycle of getting a letter in the mail stating we still owed the money > logging in to see that indeed the payment had been made but was listed as "processing" > waiting on hold for two hours for a rep to confirm we had been paid and no need to worry, the system was just lagging behind due to the pandemic backlog > getting another letter stating we owed the money > rinse and repeat for about 16 months before it was finally resolved.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:23 (one week ago) link

Ugh … sorry.., I mean I don’t work for the IRS so it’s not my fault but

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:00 (one week ago) link

_The IRS fairly primitive computer system_

every year I get a letter from them about 1099s and it's like "Sorry, but the name doesn't match the SSN#" and invariably the name DOES match the actual SSN# but their 1953 scanners read the name and/or SS number wrong


Do you handwrite them or something??

sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:00 (one week ago) link

hey guys did you know I'm so baller that in addition to working my full-time job, I made $14,000 in non-employee compensation from DoorDash in 2022?

Me neither! but the IRS seems to think I did!

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:24 (one week ago) link

(i'm not actually even stressed, I'm giggling .....clearly someone fucked up)

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:25 (one week ago) link

i may have questions for this thread as I report this obvious mistake.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:26 (one week ago) link

Did someone steal your SSN# or something?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:27 (one week ago) link

i think if someone outright stole it, I'd have noticed before now. but I am checking my credit report just in case.

feel like it's more a case of someone who was keying in an SSN made a one digit error, but who knows.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:32 (one week ago) link

apparently this is a thing that has happened to other people though:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IRS/comments/18rk1gu/someone_used_my_wifes_social_for_doordash/

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:35 (one week ago) link

Yeah, it's not like DoorDash requires you to show the actual SS Card - you can probably tell them any old number

years ago I worked at design firm and we briefly had a contractor from eastern europe.. I kept asking her to complete the W-2 (she claimed her SSN# was 'private') and when she finally handed it back to me, her SSN# was XXX-XX-1234 .. literally 1234 were the last four digits. Huh, what are the chances of that?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:39 (one week ago) link

CONFIRMED - IDENTITY STOLEN.

looked at the transcripts and you can see the address that Doordash had for me is one I've never had in history. this should be a fairly easy process to dispute as I can prove on my own credit report I've never lived there. have set up credit freeze and fraud alert on my account. have all of the forms ready to go.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 21:58 (one week ago) link

shit, that sucks! Nothing with the IRS is ever quick & easy, tho

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 2 May 2024 22:01 (one week ago) link

they haven't met a guy with infinite patience to be annoying like me before

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 22:20 (one week ago) link

You will end up getting an IP PIN that they will send you each year until you die

sarahell, Thursday, 2 May 2024 22:35 (one week ago) link

bleh.

looks like the guy got deactivated eons ago but may have actually been using my DoorDash account. cunning.

FTC report and IRS ID theft report filed electronically, just gotta respond to the CP2000 now.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 22:38 (one week ago) link

jeeeeezus

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 May 2024 23:11 (one week ago) link

Doordash replied with what seems like a form letter to indicate yes it was fraud and they deactivated the account. apparently this happens so much at their great, well-run company that they already have a template for it.

welp that'll make my claim with IRS easier.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 May 2024 20:54 (six days ago) link


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