Sierra classics circa '90

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a friend of mine is at E3 this week and saw an ad for a new LEISURE SUIT LARRY.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

..starring his nephew, I think.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

If these work on Mac, you are my favorite people EVER EVER EVER.

I've never even played Police Quest 3!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

And sadly they don't. :(

Would they work with VPC?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG!!!!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, I love you so much I think I just gave birth to your son and then I had him bronzed.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Sam and Max, anyone?

Yes, please!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

You can't do that, at least not now!

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay, I spent all of yesterday evening playing The Colonel's Bequest and King's Quest IV.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i used to leech these off the local boards in flint with the 2400 baud. Ah, what days.

i had a 8088xt with a CGA monitor for 5 years. I knew that i'd have to upgrade when SQ4 and Wing Commander came out and were CGA only. of course, it took "X-Wing" being released for me to finally do so.

― Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone remember Keeping Up With The Jones'?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

YES

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

that was right around the time of the incredible machine

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

scariest sierra game ever = manhunter

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Fucking A. @d@m, you're the best. I've spent far too long looking at Sierra-related websites, looking at screenshots and game maps of King's Quest and its sequels and longing to play them once again in my lifetime. This is great.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

That's essentially what I was trying to say, but it came out creepier when I said it.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link

But not many Police Quests on that site. :(

You all know me as the police guy, alert me if any of these appear. I NEVER finished PQ2!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh wait, yes I did.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, this makes me wish my iBook weren't in the shop.

This and a zillion other things, of course.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm looking to fill in some cracks. I think I only played KQ1, KQ3, KQ4, maybe KQ5 (I think I lent this one to my cousins and never got it back!!), SQ1, SQ3, and PQ1.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Manhunter was amazing!!!

Did anyone every play Star Control II? It was like the problem solving from a Sierra game but oriented around a SPACE POLITCAL / INDUSTRIAL / DIPLOMACY / MILITARY SIMULATION. It is 100% free open source now and lots of fun. The combat in it was cool too. It used sequenced music!

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/
^ open source version

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/shipyard.png
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/melnorme.png
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/thraddash.png
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/yehat.png
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/melee2.png
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/commander.png
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/screenshots/pluto.png
http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/sc2scr/snap7.jpg
http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/sc2scr/melee01.jpg

― NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS REMIND YOU THAT ZERO IS ALSO A NUMBER (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Sakes alive! I had the first version of that for the Amiga! I loved that game! FUCKIN LOVED IT I SAY!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.vintage-sierra.com/conquests/games/robin.jpg

This was great too! The costumes were wicked fun. I'm pretty sure the story could go tons of different ways.

― NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS REMIND YOU THAT ZERO IS ALSO A NUMBER (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

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― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.fabianojuvencio.hpg.ig.com.br/nexus/glory3.jpg this ruled
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/qfg/qfg1/screens/qfg1-vga-4.jpg

― NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS REMIND YOU THAT ZERO IS ALSO A NUMBER (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG OMG OMG does anyone remember Zack Mcracken? That shit was messed up! And GREAT!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay...Anyone that can find me Zack Mcracken for Mac gets all my earthly belongings. Go!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

zak mccraken and the alien mindbenders was the one game from that whole sierra/lucasarts time of my childhood that i never ever finished. it haunts me to this day.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 May 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

omg @d@m they have crystal crazy, I heart you so much right now

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 13 May 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

http://mac.the-underdogs.org/index.php?show=game&id=646

Battle Chess! I haven't seen this since the Commodore 64, best game ever

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 13 May 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Lemmings...
could be dangerous for me.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Thursday, 13 May 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks J0hn, but what on earth is crystal crazy?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

also - this just boggles the mind. Text-only adventure games are due a huge renaissance!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

They already HAD a huge renaissance a few years ago, Adam. http://www.ifarchive.org/ for more info.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 13 May 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't get KQ1 or SQ1 to work for me. I totally just downloaded KQ6, though, and it works. Although the sound is FUCKED UP somehow, and I think it's supposed to be playing music but it sounds like my computer is exploding with modem buzzing and bleeps and bloops (but not in a good way). And I totally forgot that I played this game but now it's all coming back to me in a huge rush.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 May 2004 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link

hahahaha holy shit Chris, that site is like revisiting Gopher...

― Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Thursday, 13 May 2004 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The text is based on an ftp site's INFO files.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 13 May 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

jaymc, I had similar sound probs with the "enhanced" version of Space Quest 1. In fact, it sounded so fucking awful I had to turn the sound down and stop playing.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I downloaded that version, too, with success (except for the sound).

While playing it, I found that I am much more impatient than I was as a kid. (Or maybe I was just mad at myself last night for staying up past my bedtime! I couldn't even get off the ship!)

As far as nostalgia trips go, it's pretty awesome, though. I am looking forward to playing the slot machine in that Star Wars cantina rip-off.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Fucking aliens keep shooting me.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Couldn't get Manhunter:NY to work. :(

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you managing to avoid them by ducking into the elevators?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Sometimes, but Roger Wilco won't move fast enough, his steps keep stuttering!!!!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I can't move him the fuck off-screen sometimes.

My problem is I'm just dawdling too much because I can't remember what to do. FYI: I had to consult a website with cheats, because there's something you have to do early in the game that requires the original Sierra game manual.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Try this for some of the earlier games that don't work.

Some of the "humour" in these games that so amused 13 yr old @d@m is actually a bit lame, IMHO.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't understand what that website provides. Downloads of the games themselves, or downloadable software that somehow makes the games compatible?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually haven't tried it myself, someone just suggested it on Mac Garden for running Police Quest 1. I assumed it was software.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"wilco
2003-01-19

Like most of the early sierra games, this works fine (in colour!) on OS X with sarien http://sarien.sourceforge.net/. But it's nowhere near as good as space quest imho."

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Some of the "humour" in these games that so amused 13 yr old @d@m is actually a bit lame, IMHO.

this is crushingly otm.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I really want to find KQ6 now... I never actually finished it.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link

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Wow the multiplayer idea is crazy! I love it!

― Nhex, Monday, 15 February 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

This is such a neat idea but my hat goes off to anyone who can stay alive for long enough to score more than 15 points without falling off an edge which didn't exist, dying because someone else on the same screen died, dying because someone else was standing where you needed to or took the item you needed first, the game mysteriously resetting to some random other point when you walk through a doorway, etc.

Trying to do the already ridiculous twisty-chasm-away-from-wizard-castle scene of KQIII in this is going to be a circle of hell.

But still, it is a really neat idea...

― boing boom love tshak (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Trying to do the already ridiculous twisty-chasm-away-from-wizard-castle scene of KQIII in this is going to be a circle of hell.

Can't you just click at the bottom of the screen and have your character automatically transported there? I did that with the path to the castle in Black Cauldron.

― Lusty Mo Frazier (jaymc), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

The YT collections of ways to die in each Sierra game reminded me of how those games pissed me off. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GO OVER HERE and then you fuckin' killed me, you stupid game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcI7DvBdKw8

― Sex Sexual (kingfish), Monday, 15 February 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Enjoying the KQ5 one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOn5D0XE9U

Next to look for Police Quest ones, cz 1 was ridiculously anal (did you walk round your car before getting in? no? then a tyre blows up and kills you! a tyre which is strangely fine if you do walk round the car) but at least made a kind of sense if you'd read the manual, PQ2 was just crazy for the utterly unpredictable death-from-mundane-object scenarios.

― falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

That car safety check was the most asinine thing! At least you got to go undercover as a pimp.

― Nhex, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.abandonia.com/games/315

― Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Zak McCracken is the one Lucasfilm game I've never played. Would you recommend seeking it out? That page doesn't seem to have it for download...

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

It is AMAZING. I wish I could find a DL of it, been looking forever! (see above)

― Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.thehouseofgames.net/index.php?t=10&id=134

Seems to work anyway. Only given it about 5 minutes though.

The interface is reminding me that I never did finish Maniac Mansion.

― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like btjunkie has a version for download, tho I don't think it's the original, it looks like some kind of graphic/sound update. Don't think the game was 74MB as first release!

Also I wanna take this time to say Quest For Glory III was my favorite Sierra game ever, but Monkey Island 2 is the best computer game ever.

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone know what discworld was like? i just dned it but not tried yet

― Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

To 14y/o me who loved graphical adventures and Discworld books it was frustrating and not very Pratchett-ishly funny, but it had its moments I guess? But I got stuck and gave up on it, and years later I learnt that the solution to one of the puzzles I was stuck on was in fact something I'd been trying, just obviously not clicking "use" while standing on the exact right pixel.

Funnily enough I am helping mr spacecadet clear a bunch of stuff out and we just hit a seam of mid-90s games including Sam & Max, DoTT, Discworld, and he was all "man what an annoying game" and singled out the above puzzle as one he couldn't solve because the solution was illogical, whereas it had occured to me instantly except I couldn't make it work

(had encountered same puzzle with same solution in crappy 80s Spectrum game and also never found the exact right pixel to stand on to accomplish it, it being a task which requires proximity to a deadly thing - spoiler avoidance kinda making this post incomprehensible but hey)

― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Discworld was confusing to me too. Never finished it. Very beautiful game tho.

I had "The Dig" for a while and actually got pretty far, but I remember ending up on a really abstract puzzle that I couldn't figure out and just gave up on.

DOTT is so infinitely classic, maybe even better than Monkey Island 2. Best voice acting ever in a video game.

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the solution to one of the puzzles I was stuck on was in fact something I'd been trying, just obviously not clicking "use" while standing on the exact right pixel

this is the most frustrating thing about adventure games, something like this happened to me in almost every adventure game I ended up being stuck in.

the other common thing that often got me stuck was not noticing there was some room I could go into or some box I could open so I was missing some important item later in the game which I should have gotten from that room or box.

― peter in montreal, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Just found out there is a fan-made Zak McKracken 2: Between Time and Space. Has anyone played this?

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I posted about a few adventure game remakes and add-ons in an adventure game forums. The games I mentioned are the most well known remakes and add-ons.

I would wait to play Zak McKracken 2: Between Time and Space and Broken Sword 2.5 (which looks awesome) until the English voice pack is released for both

I heard that some cheesy story stuff is low point of 'Between Time and Space' but otherwise everything else is superb

― serious nonsense (CaptainLorax), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I know people always ask this but what ARE the contemporary equivalent of these games?

― Kiitën (admrl), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

A new Monkey Island game and some new Sam and Max games have been released in small chapters/episodes over the past couple years (on pc, wii, ps3, and x-box 360). The complete games are called Tales of Monkey Island, Sam & Max save the world, and Sam & Max beyond time and space. The third new Sam and Max game is still in progress (being released in episodes).

See what I'm talking about at Telltale Games website.

Meanwhile the original Monkey Island has been released as a special edition and Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge special edition is coming out very shortly. Special editions have English voice-overs and everything is hand-drawn and presented in 1080p (HD). Personally, I think getting this would probably be the best way to get into adventure gaming. But freeware is a good idea to.

― serious nonsense (CaptainLorax), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

note that Monkey Island and Sam & Max series are Lucas Arts adventure games (Sierra's main adventure game competition back in the day)

― serious nonsense (CaptainLorax), Friday, 25 June 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

There are some modern graphic/point'n'click adventures out there, but none of them are as epic as your Monkey Islands etc. Zeebarf do pretty good ones:

A Small Favour
The Adventures of Reemus

― emil.y, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

http://pp23games.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/the-secret-of-monkey-island-special-edition-screenshot.jpg

Woah, the TSOMI special edition looks crazy! I'm definitely looking into it.

I recall that Monkey Island 2 made use of hand-drawn art for the backgrounds. Looks like they've redone them anyways but they look DAMN good!
http://www.lucasarts.com/games/monkeyisland2/#/home

If only we could convince Ron Gilbert to remake his original script for Monkey Island 3. The Curse of Monkey Island was great, but kinda a letdown after th ending of 2...

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Back in the day I was always like "Sierra games give you OPTIONS, they are SO MUCH BETTER than LucasArts." But since I started playing old adventure games with my little sister, I've come to appreciate the value of a well-written but linear plotline versus "oh you didn't throw the boot at the rat three hours ago? GAME IS UNWINNABLE SORRY."

The new Telltale Sam and Max games are hilarious.

― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/73623773.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1277507019&Signature=GTgfn10EZwg8e2RjDrqyp1JF3PE%3D

http://juiceoffer.com/uploads/monkey-island-2-001.jpg

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I forgot how badass and terrifying LeChuck used to look.

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

http://i.imgur.com/QBvZSsY.jpg

― calstars, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

I want that little trap door on the left to open up

― calstars, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

colonel's bequest from the GOG sale right? i haven't played that one.

― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 13 July 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link

iirc opening up that laundry chute was the very first way i died in this game, this being the first playable screen.

― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 July 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link

but really it's a super interesting game, a nice side-experiment in What Other Kinds Of Games Can This Interface Make?. replay is important and if you really want to nail it you have to do some kind of insane stuff of basically, when you figure out which event triggers the clock advancing, you should double back and make sure you've done all the interacting and eavesdropping you can manage in that earlier time interval. but it's all about dialogue and clues and shit; there are inventory puzzles but fewer than in a king's quest game. the vibe is so great in any case, the 'creepy evening on the bayou' feel really comes through.

worrisome stereotype alert though - i want to say they mostly steer clear of really terrible dialect stuff for the african-american cook character, but said character is obviously a problematic and creaky old type from the get-go.

― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 July 2017 04:35 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Fan art is amazing sometimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq024O5HNk8

― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 December 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

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