A Thread For Starting Pitchers That Are Doing Really Well

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good job

deeznuts, Saturday, 12 April 2008 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Renteria really sucks.

David R., Saturday, 12 April 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Ryan Dempster has been shockingly effective in his two starts. 13 IP, 4 hits, 4 BB, 2R (1 ER), 10 K. Kudos.

felicity, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

not really shocked cuz dempster showed #3-type stuff in relief last year, mixing in a lot of above avg pitches but nothing super-special; having him in the bp was kind of confounding to me. havent seen him yet this year but my guess is that he'll be a quality starter

deeznuts, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah the shock is from years of mis-having him as a closer.

felicity, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

edgar "i stretch a lot in the batters box" renteria provided half their offense!

Kyle Lo(h)se deserves a place here

bnw, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Cain just dingered.

Leee, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

And has 6 no-hit innings.

Leee, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

it is now 6.2 3-hit innings.

can add Looper to the list of ex-closers doing wtf well as a starter.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 12 April 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

LEE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING WHICH IS THE POINT OF THE THREAD HINT HINT

David R., Sunday, 13 April 2008 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Off-topic but on-topic in the "taking thread title literally" sense: SCOTT OLSEN (!?!?!?)

Not surprising: Jair Mothjerrfjuckjing Jurrjens. What is surprising, though, is his 7.46 K/9.

Andy K, Monday, 21 April 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, after yesterday's start I grabbed him in the fantasy league. He looked good in an "I don't give a fuck about ANY of these chumps" way.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 21 April 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Ponson wtf.

Andy K, Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

every year there's always one or two dudes like this guy was in '00:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/smithch07.shtml

omar little, Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

joe saunders

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

scott olson, tho he got rocked last night

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Jon Lester is pitching really well so far today.

mattbot, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

: D

omar little, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Man I sure picked the right meaningless Royals game to go to. Never thought I'd see a no-hitter.

govern yourself accordingly, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

well they are often worse pitched than some one or two hit games.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

well, you know, it takes a tremendous amount of luck to achieve a one or two hitter.

j.q higgins, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

they are often worse pitched than three or four hitters.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, fuck you :)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

(METS HAVE DONE FINE W/OUT ONE IN 46 YEARS)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

best pitched game i ever saw live was when pedro struck out 15 and lost. to tampa. completely wtf.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

excuse me, retrosheet.org tells me he struck out 17 and lost.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

PITCHING

Tampa Bay Devil Rays IP H R ER BB SO HR
Trachsel W(2-2) 9 3 0 0 3 11 0

Boston Red Sox IP H R ER BB SO HR
P. Martinez L(5-1) 9 6 1 1 1 17 0

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

but Trachsel pitched better! HE GAVE UP HALF AS MANY HITS!

anyone see WGN rerun the 9th of Jim Maloney's no hitter vs the Cubs in '65, a few weeks ago during a rain delay? The guy walked TEN and threw something like 190 pitches!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Back when the game was played by MEN

Andy K, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty sure while w/ montreal pedro threw 9 perfect innings & ended up losing

deeznuts, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

that's not too impressive, a lot of bad luck involved there.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

xp to Andy: MEN whose arms were dead at 31!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

so what? all the hitters were either boozed up or hungover. EVEN PLAYING FIELD.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

xp to Andy: MEN whose arms were dead at 31!

-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Back then, you didn't know whether you'd HAVE your throwing arm the next day -- lost to the combine out on the back forty, or combat, or what have you. You just threw like hell, left everything out there on the mound.

Andy K, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I once left my watch out on the mound, but that was not on purpose.

G00blar, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

daniel cabrera, the consecutive reigning AL walks champion, pitched his third game WITHOUT issuing a walk this season last night. his three-peat is in peril as he has now tumbled out of the top ten on the heels of his 8th straight quality start.

j.q higgins, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Following Daver's stinging rebukes, I'd like to known if it's now OK to say that Lester pitched a NH.

Leee, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Dana Eveland is pitching very nicely.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/72/175995087_edd1f77f57_o.jpg

zaxxon25, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw andrew miller strike out 9 the other night, but i originally thought it was 13 or so, so i couldn't even imagine seeing 17

joe saunders is 8-1 w/ a 2.31 era right now

J0rdan S., Saturday, 24 May 2008 05:53 (fifteen years ago) link

JUSTIN DUCHSCHERER

Andy K, Sunday, 25 May 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

n/m

Andy K, Sunday, 25 May 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Cueto through five

Andy K, Sunday, 1 June 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Last Play: G. Blanco reached on bunt single to third

>:O

Steve Shasta, Sunday, 1 June 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

BRETTY MYERS OH MY THRU 6

johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 June 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh well

Andy K, Thursday, 5 June 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Greg Maddux still has it. He's perfect so far . . .

felicity, Thursday, 5 June 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Ladies and Gentlemen, Bitter Cubsfan

deeznuts, Thursday, 5 June 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess it's all part of what they call . . . gowring up.

felicity, Thursday, 5 June 2008 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link

you, f, hit the gowrs.

poor form.

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 5 June 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Framber is such a fave, delighted for him

a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 04:49 (eight months ago) link

Lorenzen doing well, had picked him up for a minute for fantasy and then dropped him to pick up somebody else... I initially saw it after three innings and thought haha it would serve me right if he "did well" today

omar little, Thursday, 10 August 2023 00:51 (eight months ago) link

The strike zone got pretty generous at the end there.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 August 2023 02:09 (eight months ago) link

I'll have you know Lorenzen's OPS as a hitter is .710. We may be looking at the wish.com Ohtani here, folks

frogbs, Thursday, 10 August 2023 02:15 (eight months ago) link

Honestly, I'm surprised there are still CG no-hitters every now and again. I thought they were pretty much history.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 August 2023 02:23 (eight months ago) link

Wow I saw his name in the notifications and thought I was going mad misremembering the name of the two-way reliever for the reds like 5 years ago but no! It’s him! Wish.com ohtani? I don’t remember ohtani throwing a no-hitter!

Honestly, just as cool seeing him move from reliever to starter, quite a distinct big-league journey this guy has made. Very very happy for him

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 10 August 2023 07:05 (eight months ago) link

Just watching the 9th inning now, very sweet to see his family and teams responses. They gave him a very long leash! Good on the manager, love to see it

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 10 August 2023 07:08 (eight months ago) link

Another slight against the DH. LET LORENZEN HIT

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 10 August 2023 07:12 (eight months ago) link

He was wearing custom cleats made from Vans Old School uppers...

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fum4se2sg07hb1.jpg

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:37 (eight months ago) link

I had the same thought H.P., I remember him being a very cool player from the Reds but often very cool players don’t pan out. I was also surprised to find out it was that guy, and now that he’s not a Red anymore I can cheer for him so it all works out

frogbs, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:49 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Framber Valdez (again) is out there to start the 8th...I don't know: 114 pitches.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:42 (seven months ago) link

not great imo

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:43 (seven months ago) link

Actually, maybe not--a call was overturned and the 7th extended...Will know in a minute.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:45 (seven months ago) link

They took him out (which even I agree with).

clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:45 (seven months ago) link

who *was* the last pitcher with two no-hitters in the same month (or even season)?

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:58 (seven months ago) link

Steve Busby had two in the same year, I think, but surely must have been done since.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 00:59 (seven months ago) link

Scherzer’s two in 2015 was the first (and only) time it happened this century

H.P, Saturday, 26 August 2023 01:00 (seven months ago) link

I was wrong. Busby is the only pitcher to throw no-hitters in his first two seasons; here are two in the same season (article goes back to 2021).

https://www.mlb.com/news/pitchers-with-two-no-hitters-in-the-same-season

clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 01:01 (seven months ago) link

I was wrong too! Roy Halladay had two in 2010 as well

H.P, Saturday, 26 August 2023 01:02 (seven months ago) link

How can we forget Johnny Vander Meer’s 1938 seasons where he had two back to back no hitters (very impressive)

H.P, Saturday, 26 August 2023 01:04 (seven months ago) link

I figured Steve Busby would be excellent Immaculate Grid Fodder. No--eight seasons, all with K.C. (And, if you could check the pitch count on those two no-hitters, quite possibly a good example of why that's not a good idea.)

Busby subsequently became the first baseball player to undergo rotator cuff surgery. In an effort to help his arm recover from the surgery, his doctor recommended that Busby be placed on a pitch count. He is often believed to be the first baseball player to be placed on a pitch count, something that Busby has stated is a myth. Before his injury, he is alleged to have thrown close to 200 pitches in a game, which Busby also says is untrue.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 01:08 (seven months ago) link

Well that no hitter game went sideways

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 26 August 2023 01:28 (seven months ago) link

SF's Cobb nearly* perfect through 7IP. *0H, 6K, 0BB, 1ERR

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 03:29 (seven months ago) link

Justin Steele, now 15-3 with a 2.69 ERA

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 03:39 (seven months ago) link

dodgers' ryan pepiot is perfect through 6.1 and at 75 pitches

mookieproof, Friday, 8 September 2023 00:44 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Merrill Kelly.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 October 2023 00:47 (five months ago) link

Living on the edge

#1 García Fan (H.P), Sunday, 29 October 2023 02:38 (five months ago) link

Zac Gallen. (Announcer has no sense of decorum.)

clemenza, Thursday, 2 November 2023 01:25 (five months ago) link

Always sucks when such a great run of innings turns into being down 1-0

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:31 (five months ago) link

LOSS - Z. Gallen

, Thursday, 2 November 2023 03:03 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

Not only have the Astros scored 10 runs so far, Blanco has also only given up one walk through 8

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 02:03 (two weeks ago) link

Crazy. 8th game in the majors, never went more than 6, no hitter for Ronel Blanco.

Talking heads are saying he’s been using a change up that he learned in spring training this off season.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 02:17 (two weeks ago) link

Who's Bailey Falter of Pittsburgh? He's no-hitting the extremely offensively potent Orioles in the 6th.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:27 (one week ago) link

well, he gave up a double. but if you're only gonna strike out one through six, you have to be incredibly lucky

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:48 (one week ago) link

I guess he finally... faltered

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:51 (one week ago) link

Blanco carried another no-no into the 5th this time. Like 14 no hit innings before the streak came to an end

Glasnow 10Ks, 1H, 0BBs through 5ip with 61 pitches

H.P, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:56 (one week ago) link

Roberts calls it as 14Ks, 1H, 0BBs, 7ip at 88 pitches. Woulda been cool to be irresponsible and let him go out and try break his strikeout record, but responsibility wins out

H.P, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 01:44 (one week ago) link

3hits sorry

H.P, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 01:44 (one week ago) link

Corbin Burnes hasn't flirted with a no-hitter but he has certainly given the Orioles exactly what they hoped to get from him.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 01:44 (one week ago) link

Yeah it's been good to see him immediately contribute to the team

H.P, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 02:01 (one week ago) link

Hunter Brown in KC rn... do not jinx it...

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 11 April 2024 18:37 (one week ago) link

Poor guy--they left him in there for 11 hits, a walk, and nine runs?! I know it's helpful for your starter to get out of the first inning, but hasn't anybody on the Astros seen On the Waterfront? "This ain't your night, kid..."

clemenza, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:20 (one week ago) link

jared jones - what's his spin rate?

, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:27 (yesterday) link

Not a no-hitter or a near one, but props to Albert Suarez, who has not pitched in the majors in more than six years and gave the Orioles 5 2/3 shutout innings today, 3 hits, no walks, 4 strikeouts.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 22:21 (yesterday) link

xp ty! some research suggests that's good spin but not the toppity top. asked cuz his spin seemed noticeably faster on slo mo than other pitchers i've seen, but maybe that's an effect of how fast/slow the slo-mo is.

fingers crossed he doesn't end up in the pulled pork thread. he was clocking 100.

, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:57 (yesterday) link

Tanner Houck just threw a 94 pitch cgso with three hits and 9 Ks. Looked like a right handed Chris Sale. Game time: 1.49.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:06 (twelve hours ago) link

Shortest nine-inning game since 2010.

clemenza, Thursday, 18 April 2024 04:04 (nine hours ago) link


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